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     Dago |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ga-770242051886003_W0QQitemZ4584686784QQcategoryZ 38627QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The others on the same page don't look all that expensive either. Do they just not hold their value well? Are these the Fords of Italy? Or are they a an undervalued duc in disguise? I was under the impression these things were a higher-end item. Just curious... | ||
| Court |
Both Aprilia and Ducati are in about the same financial shape as Saab. If you are considering an Aprilia or Ducati, tty going to a dealer and ordering a $15 part. Judge for yourself. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Smoking price. A few guys ride them at NESBA and go really well. They are supposed to be great bikes. | ||
| Daves |
I like mine ok, doesn't handle as well as the Buell. Dago, I might be selling mine. It is a 2002 Mille R with 9000 miles on it. Only 2 track sessions(not track days) full Ohlins suspension, all stock, Michelin Pilot Power tires with about 3000 miles(still like new) Call me if you're interested. a 15.00 part for a Italian bike! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha you're a funny guy Court! | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
That's about what they go for. Actually, for a 2001, $6500 is no special bargain. They are a very nice bike, smooth, powerful, perhaps more reliable than a Ducati due to the Rotax motor. My pal Gerry has a 2004. They are a lot bigger and heavier than a Buell, not quite as handy in the tight stuff. Good for fast sweepers. Their streetfighter, the Tuono, is one of my favorites. | ||
| Dago |
Interesting comments, all. I'm not really in the market for anything new just yet. Being that this is my first season with "the track bug", I believe that I'm going to stick with what I have until I truly know my next bike will be a step above my current XB12R. I'm sure that by this time next year I'll be asking those of you who hit the track regularly some questions on this subject. Bigger tracks with longer straights with faster turns just might require _______ to be competitive. I'm new to the sport. So my mind is wide open as to what "______" is. | ||
| Dago |
Gent, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Aprilia-Tuono-Racing-mille-RSV-racebike_W0QQitemZ 4583150528QQcategoryZ38627QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Thanks Dago. I had that sweetheart on my " dream on " list:-) I also have another list -- "10 reasons not to bid on any Factory Tuono." Starts out with the fact that the bike would cost twice as much as my current ride, and ends with it is much too fast for the likes of me:-) | ||
| Mikej |
That bike, that owner, and that helmet don't go together for some reason.  | ||
| Chasespeed |
Il ike Aprilia's I really do... And I like Duc's... My Second favorite ride, was my 99, 748/s Loved that bike, adn I might even buy it back..just for track sessions...as I have been the only one to keep it running.... ANYWAY... Anyway, thats about the right price for each bike.. Thats also why I kept the Buell, and sold the Duc... Chase | ||
| Light_keeper |
Maybe he won it in a card game or other debt payment.  | ||
| Rocketman |
Court, can you elaborate on the Ducati state of affairs? I heard sometime ago that a British finance house had bought or were going to buy from Ducati from the TPG. The deal was going to cement Ducati's long term future alleging replacement Monsters and the V4 racer road bike a definite for production. Rocket | ||
| Dago |
Court, I've yet to buy a $15 for my Buell. That's a silly argument to use against a brand anyway. It seems to me that no matter what you start with, it'll cost you an arm and a leg to set it up as a proper track bike. | ||
| Chasespeed |
Court, I've yet to buy a $15 for my Buell. IAT sensor(intake air temp)}, $14.90 after tax  Chase | ||
| Easy_rider |
No matter what the price you're paying for parts, and no matter how little Buell inventory your local dealer has, at least the parts are available in the states. Aprilia doesn't keep a suitable inventory of spares in the states so you're down for a few weeks if you need anything. My buddy was lucky enough to frequent a dealer that actually took the part off of a showroom bike in order to get his back on the road. From what little I know about them it is a nice price if you're looking for an Aprilia. You might want to make sure it's your second bike, though. | ||
| Rocketman |
No matter what the price you're paying for parts, and no matter how little Buell inventory your local dealer has, at least the parts are available in the states. The BadWeB is an international internet forum. Buells are sold all over the world. No matter where you live ride what you desire. If part supply is an issue buy a bloody Honda. As for Saab, I don't know what Court was meaning as I don't live in the US. Here in the UK you can have ANY Saab part flown in from Sweden within 2 days. Yes there is on the odd occasion times when a Saab part might be on back order but these parts are not fast moving parts. They are more obscure parts that seldom need replacement. As for Saab's financial position, it is my understanding that Saab are stronger now than they've ever been. Yes they are under the GM banner, and I'm not talking about GM. Take for example the 'drop top' market. It might surprise the American folks here to learn that the UK is the largest buyer of 'drop tops' in Europe. Saab is the biggest seller by a huge margin. So huge the Saab Convertible out sells the Audi and the Mercedes brands put together. That's some achievement when we consider the popularity of the Audi TT, and yes I know the SLK even with the smaller engine 230 is a higher end car than Saab offer but the Merc has still sold very well. This car BS is all very well and I'm safe in the knowledge my future is secure with my Saab meanderings but I want to know the inside scoop on Ducati's long term future. I'm keen on all the Italian brands. I'm concerned that the Far East are buying into Italian brands as I'm unsure of what their long term investment is all about. For me the Italian brands are essential in keeping a global market vibrant in its design and development of motorcycles the world over. Consider - would we have a Buell XB series without the Italians manufacturing the frame? Keep Buell alive - buy Italian  Rocket | ||
| Ebear |
If you've never ridden an Aprilia....in particular the Tuono......You have NO IDEA what your missing!!!Other than the chain backlash that Buells have spoiled us over,these bikes rock...and rock and rock.Mine has been spot on for reliability and fun.Just ask FERRIS how they go...or Scott Page , or Steve Brefka.Aprilia is now owned by the LARGEST motorcycle manufacturer in the world...Piaggio...how does this put them in jeopardy????...It's easy to question(or bash) brands that we don't own...just look at all the Buell bashers....that doesn't make them right....just falsely opinionated....(opinionated based on someone ELSES opinions)...so if you have an interest in one of these,check them out.They are similiar to Buells in the fact that they don't cost a fortune when they are used,but thats great for the buyer!And since I have NO desire to sell mine in the near future I don't mind.I still keep my X1 and I have an S3 in my Garage too.But sometimes you need an Italian Ride just to show you another path to enlightenment!!And kudos to Rocketman....sometimes living elsewhere REALLY improves your take on these things!!!  | ||
| Millx1 |
As others have said, the price he's asking is about average. It is a standard previous generation Mille (not the R version), seems to have some nice mods on it and does appear to be in mint condition. I would have no problem spending $6000 for that bike. | ||
| Fullpower |
OEM Buell turn indicators:list price $ 5.35 stock XB wheels $336 each. cant complain about Buell parts prices. I must add though, that I cant complain at all about the handling, reliability, brake feel, performance, and the absolutely dead nuts on perfect fuel injection of my wife's stock 2004 Ducati monster. I cannot fault that bike in any way, it is as close to perfect as any stock motorcycle i have thrown a leg over. | ||
| Lornce |
Dago, Just to add a bit of fun to this thread, go check out my profile pic.  What you can't see behind the guy on the $35k Ducati 998R is his buddy on the $35k Aprilia Mille "Factory". The pic was taken just after stuffing both of them up the inside at the entry to Mosport's infamous turn 2.... on my $3,500 S1. Ho ho ho, Lornce (in the mood for a bit of shameless self-promotion) | ||
| Rocketman |
'ang on Lornce. Me mate frum 'ull just bort a toothowsand n faw Factry Ar faw sevun grand Inglish $35k???????????? Rocket | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
MSRP on Factory Mille is $18,000. Of course you need a few extras if you actually want to race it. Slicks and so forth, chip, pipes, rearsets and that kind of jewelry is expensive. Sinking $35,000 into one of these sweethearts is actually easier than it sounds. I'd love to try it :-) Only I'd start with the Big Tuna. | ||
| Rocketman |
This is much more interesting than any Big Tuna and should blow one into the weeds too. Naked 156BHP Bimota SB6R Rocket | ||
| Easy_rider |
Thanks, Rocket, for reminding me that there's more than just 'mericans at this site. Didn't mean to slight you. I believe my comments still stand, I just should have been globally aware enough to make sure all involved were from the same continent. Like Buell's, they have their pluses and minuses. I was on a mc vacation at Deals Gap with more Aprilia's in our group than the total number of Buell's I saw the entire week (4 vs 2). Their biggest complaint is parts availability. It's unfortunate that I had a stupid attack before the bike swapping began, or I'd at least be able to compare Futura's to S3T's. As it stands, I can only say that the Factory is a very nice ride! | ||
| Garp |
Aprilia just does not market their bikes well, and the used values are a reflection of the discounts they end up giving on the new biles to keep them moving. I used to own an Aprilia Caponord. I have a history of adopting the dusty bike in the corner that nobody else wants. I had high hopes for that bike, and expected a combination of Japanese reliability with Italian Character. What I got was Italian reliability and Japanese character. That bike was as dull as a box of rocks, and the only bike that has ever left me at the side of the road. In fact a local cop pulled over and helped me push the POS home. It was 1 in the morning, and i think he thought I was too drunk to ride Parts availability was a joke, and as I understand it Piaggio is now shutting down Aprilia USA in GA and moving them to NY, so I expect things will get worse before they get better. | ||
| Easy_rider |
A friend of a friend in GA is losing his job because of the move. It's a shame -- in his short few months he had been in a couple of mags getting the name out there and seemed like he wanted to address the parts availability issue. The new bikes are fun to ride. Personally I can't get past the looks, though. I'm told it's "rolling art"..... | ||
| Lornce |
Rocket, In fact, $40k mighta bin the number they tossed about. Yah think they coulda been exaggerating?!? Nice blokes, pair'o Yanks with a bloody great motorhome, et al. Din't 'elp 'em on'na track, though. Heh heh heh. Lornce | ||
| Lornce |
Geeze Rocket, that Bimota'd be the business, eh? S'truth, an he's GIVING it away! Me aulde GSX-R 7/11 was still useful as a track tool two short year ago, and that Bimota's got WAY more chassis than that thing ever had. Oh what fun. Now, go bid on'nit. | ||
| Ebear |
Wow Rocket..!!!!...Too bad they won't accept bids from here!That would be a great buy for our Isle of Man trip next year!!!Maybe's I could buy it through a third party and you could hang on to it for me till next year???Huh Rocket?????..........By the way I joined your mates Buell site and plan on hooking up with those guys at the IOMTT...I Plan on gettin' Pissed Often!!!!P.S. Got any floor space for some Yanks???  | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Nice Bimota,Rocket, thanks for the post!! Lucky for me, they don't take USA bids. That is one desirable and dangerous motor, that's for sure:-) | ||
| Rocketman |
Easy, when did you slight me? I never felt a thing! Lornce, they were giving them away from new. If memory serves they were £6K, maybe £7K but no more, and that was very recent. Ebear I would buy it for you sweetie but I'm broke LOL. Floor space can be sorted but I'm a long way from the Island or Scotland but I have a Buell and a 916. Plenty of cars too - usually Saab but have others from time to time. I trust you got my return mail? Gent jon, glad you and the others liked it. Rocket |
