| Author | Message | ||
     Bluzm2 |
Loki and Shotgun, Here's the pictures of the isolator kit. The only thing not in the picture is the small black tie wrap (I forgot to put it in the picture) The first pic is the kit, the second is the isolators only showing the L & R mark.   Hope this helps! Brad | ||
| S2pengy |
Anybody install these on a S2 yet???? I figure you will have to trim the ear.... | ||
| X1lightning |
Was reading the earlier(May)posts about Drag Specialties & Works shocks. I ordered the standard- $500+ shock (from a reliable dealer)in March and have waited for 2-3 months while it was on back order. Don't know if the fully adjustable Works are in stock. The only reason I waited was wholesale discount thru the dealer(relative). Finally bid on a newer, shorter Showa (off an '01 X1) with front mount, & got it. I hate backorders & I'm a sucker for a bargain-sometimes a disappointment(Hope it doesn't leak, too!) | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Todd, The outside (2nd shot above) of the isolator will fit the S2 side plate with no problems. I had a spare right side plate and did a test fit. I'm not sure of the inside swingarm though. I haven't had time to check it. I'm pretty sure some grinding will need to be done. Here's a couple of more shots of the isolators. A view of the "back" and a top angle shot. On the top angle shot you can see the alignment pin hole.   Brad | ||
| Loki |
So this is what I am waiting for..... | ||
| Kalamamarkm2 |
Hootowl.. Thanks. I guess my the cause of my concern was that the isolator has been exposed to a fair amount of oil from the forcewinder/k&n breather drooling on it. I've since fabbed up a catchcan and I hope (Time will tell) eliminated the oil mess. I know that a lot of rubber stuff doesn't like oil, so I was kinda worried about my right side isolator...but an inspection tonight showed it to be all 'there' with no delamination or obvious damage. Mark | ||
| S2pengy |
Brad Thanks I have been wondering since the earlier isolater numbers have been superseded.... | ||
| Loki |
Shotgun, Just went to pick up my kit from the dealer. Wanna take a guess.... Sure looked pretty and all, but I had two right side isolators. The long and short is that they would need to order the left one and send the extra right one back. That is according to the other end of the phone line. Jeff relates this to me. Using Court's teachings.....I asked Jeff about the possa bilty of getting the left one overnighted. He picks the phone up and makes a call, asks the appropriate question. The other end of the phone keys in the order(right then) and will overnight it without any charge to me. All Jeff will need to do is send the extra right one back and everything will be square. So maybe saturday afternoon I will be able to go for a ride again...... Moral of the story: check the kit before you leave the shop......Thanks to Shotguns' experience I looked before I left and was able to cure the problem on the spot. Well hopefully within 24hrs that is. | ||
| Cyclonemick |
I need the measurments eye to eye on a 00M2. Shock!n I have a penske but it uses stock setting. Can anyone help me out? My wife and I both have put on a few pounds and it feels a little soft riding 2 up! | ||
| Tripper |
Mick. Scroll to the top of this very page. | ||
| Loki |
I set no time records... The isolators have been replaced. Talk about a different feeling. Note to self the following indicate bad isolators on a S1 -front rotor has excessive chatter -extreme buzziness in the footpeg(s) -the rear tire does not feel planted | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Fork Rebuild...hints, tips, tricks & other advise? After a great week of riding, I now have some maintenance issues to address. I blow the seal on the compression fork on my S3T. Ordered the rebuild parts today (thanks Dave!). Does anyone have any helpful hints or tricks to make this less painful? Thanks! Dennis | ||
| Golin |
I tired searching for a succinct answer to this question but couldn't find one. Is the Penske worth the extra $250 over the Works Perf shock? And just liek the essay tests in high school, please explain. Additionally, is it worht putting the super expenisve shock on an older M2 whne the shock will cost about a quarter of the bike's total value? Any and all opinions appreciated. Thanks. Greg | ||
| Thunderbox |
BluzM2 Thanks for the pics. I was always wondering why the bolt wasn't in the middle of the isolators. Now I see the hole isn't there so why would the bolt be. | ||
| Henrik |
Golin; Penske makes a *very* nice shock, and if you buy it from a reputable suspension shop, it'll cost you a bit more, but you will receive it with the correct spring rate for your size and riding style. In addition the valving will be set up to match. I run a Penske on my S2 and my SV track bike and am a very happy customer. It'll allow you to dial out harshness without loosing feel and the feeling of "planted". If you currently feel that you are out-riding the stock shock, which works but isn't the greatest, I would go with something that *will* work for you right out of the box. By the time you've purchase a Works shock, replaced the spring with the correct spring rate and done the necessary re-valving ('cause once you change the spring the damping rates will be off), you'll have spent the same or more $$, as you would have getting a Penske set up right from the get-go. It's a pricey proposition, but if you feel the need and know/think you'll be keeping the bike for a long time, I'd say go for it. Henrik (so, did I pass ??  ) | ||
| Golin |
Yes Henrik, you did. I thought the Penske might be the way to go, but I wanted to be sure. As I will likley be keeping the M2 forever, I think it justifies getting the proper suspenders on it for my weight and riding style. Thaks for the info, now, any ideas on how to come up with a grand of surplus cash? | ||
| Henrik |
... how to come up with a grand of surplus cash? If I do, I'll let you know  Is the Penske twin clicker really that much $$ these days? Henrik | ||
| Al_lighton |
Golin, When I sell a Works shock, I get it from Works per the riders weight. Takes a little longer, but if a spring isn't the right rate to start with, none of the other adjustments matter all that much. That said, I'm not so sure that the spring granularity is the same for a Works vs a Penske. I ned to ask this of both vendors, I'm not sure of it. The Penske has a ride adjust height separate than the preload. A single turn on it makes a WORLD of difference on bike feel. Don't underestimate the worth of that feature, though it can be partially compensated for by varying front ride heights relative to the rear. The bottom of the line Penske is at least as good as the top Works shock. Both kick serious butt on any shock that Buell has ever equipped on the bike as OEM equipment. One other simple truth: Mix a great rear shock with a misadjusted front fork (i.e. wrong rate, damping, or sag) and you've accomplished nothing. The bike will see-saw across road imperfections and wallow in corners as a result. Keep that in mind when budgeting suspension changes. Al | ||
| Al_lighton |
Dennis, a couple tidbits: 1) A PVC tube of the proper diameter (available at home depot, exact size left to the reader to figure out), 4" long or so, split down the middle, works just fine to seat the seal. Just make sure it is used as a slide hammer FIXED to the slider tube, don't slide it ON the slider tube. Works better that way anyway, that way you can use the mass of the fork end in the slide hammer instead of the wimpy light PVC tube. 2) You DID buy a new copper washer for each fork, correct? 3) The lower bolt is trivial to remove with an impact wrench and a long allen driver..it can suck with just a long allen wrench. 4) If you are in there doing seals, it may be a good time to put in the proper springs while you're at it. Are your rates right? The stock springs are for pretty light riders. 5) Surgical cleanliness is important. 6) Don't forget to pump up the damper on assy, it's in the manual. 7) Small amounts of fork oil level differences can have big effect. The motion Pro or similar tool sure makes setting level an awful lot easier, money well spent. Al | ||
| Newfie_buell |
Can someone tell me the outer diameter of the 98 S1 upper fork tube? | ||
| Al_lighton |
Bill, 54mm is the nominal OD. Al | ||
| Henrik |
Al's got it spot on. Thanks Al. Henrik | ||
| Newfie_buell |
Thanks Guys, Bill | ||
| Golin |
Al What do you mean by granularity of the spring? I realize that suspension upgrades need both ends. I'm pretyt set with talking to Race Tech to get the right stuff I need for the forks, but I just was curious about the differences between Penske and Works. | ||
| Henrik |
Gollin; I don't like to knock a particular outfit, but I myself and others have had "issues" with lacking interest in providing customer service at Race Tech. These may be isolated instances, but BBW. Since we have people and outfits who have proven themselves to be both knowledgeable and service minded above and beyond, I'd suggest checking with them before dealing with Race Tech. May I suggest, in alphabetical order - so as not to insult anyone: Al at American Sport Bike Marcus McBain Traxxion Dynamics I've found out - the hard ($$$) way - that with suspension the follow-up support is crucial and worth every penny (and more) you *may* save by shopping for price only. Henrik (I guess I'm not going to save you any $$, am I ) | ||
| Josh_ |
*cough*racetechsucks*couch* took 2 months and multiple shipments for them to finally get mine right. quick hint - no one there will give a •••• about you from the moment your parts arrive and there simply is no communication (in their office or with their customers) unless you was talking to sales (who will not have anything to do with you after your parts arrive). | ||
| Smadd |
Traxxion Dynamics... Max (McAllister)built my forks a few years ago and said if I ever felt the spring rate he gave me was off, he'd switch them at no cost. Well... a few years later, I called him. He remembered me and said "sure... I'll replace them with softer ones (at no cost)." And then he asked me, (undoubtedly a little amused)... "what took you so long to realize they were too stiff for you?"  Well... I'm a few years older... and I never became Shawn Higbee! Comfort has become a priority. I highly recommend Max and crew at Traxxion Dynamics. Steve | ||
| Al_lighton |
Golin, By granularity, I meant how many different spring rates they offer. I provide the rider weight and ride style (i.e. street or track) to the manufacturer, they pick the spring rate and damping based on that input. Near as I can tell from the data I've received with the shocks from Works, the spring is the same for a rider weight from 161-210 lbs. I'm not sure if the Penske has a finer resolution on their spring rates or not...it's something I need to ask them. I don't try to second guess them, I make sure they know the rider weight and let them build per that. | ||
| Henrik |
Yeah, Josh - I remember your story. Mine isn't nearly as bad, but still. I too am partial to Traxxion, just because I've dealt with them before, and they several times have gone above and beyond for me. Makes for loyal customers Henrik | ||
| Bomber |
the crew at Traxxion shipped my springs before I called em (!), and answered multiple questions on the phone when I found their instructions on spacer cutting confusing (on further re-reading them, I realized it was that New Riders of the Purple Sage concert I attended that was making it tough for me to understand them). I've no experience with any other organizations, but my experience with Traxxion was so positive that I'll go back to them. |
