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Blackbuellm2
| Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 02:45 pm: |
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Re: Daytona Boss muffler I installed one on my M2 Friday. Rode over to meet my Brother-in-law for breakfast Saturday morning, he loved the sound. We both agreed it was a 100% improvement over the stock sound, yet had a distinctive sound not just another loud Harley. I was disappointed in the quality of the mounting hardware. Poorly bent, and one hole on the rear mount was oval shaped. Any problems with mounts is forgiven every time I start the bike though. |
Cyclonem2drew
| Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 03:43 pm: |
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BlackBuellm2 - What did you think about the installation of the Boss? I'm planning on giving it a try when mine comes in, but my mechanics skills are pretty average! |
Loki
| Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 12:11 am: |
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Let us all remember one thing about the BOSS. Each one is hand made! So I find I can forgive some of the small things..... |
Blackbuellm2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 09:35 am: |
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Hey Drew - As long as you've average mechanical skills you should have no problem at all mounting the pipe. Just make sure you've plenty of room to work, and something to support the pipe while you get everything into position. Another hint I'd gleaned from the BWBBS was to use a zip tie to hold the mount clamps closed while you line all up and get the bolts through. Worked like a champ. Lastly you'll need to have some exhaust sealent on hand to insure the header / pipe flange is leakproof. That's about all. My son and I mounted the pipe in about 90 minutes. That includes redrilling mount holes and running to the auto parts store for the sealent. About the only mistake we really made was trying to do this in an unheated garage in the first week of January. But there was no way I was going to wait for Saturday afternoon and warmer weather to mount 'er up. |
Jerome
| Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 06:24 pm: |
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Fastback69 and Nick : in principle the race header is available separately, as it has its own reference (for instance 65400-99Y for the X1/S3 99-00 models). The recall should only concern the race muffler, not the header. So again in principle, there is a chance to find a dealer which stores the header and can actually sell it (no recall) !!! This is what I am trying to find... Maybe with the help of you folks... I've asked this on the BBS before and got one support from Dave Tripper (deep thanks, Dave). But it looks like his Buell dealer doesn't have the race header on the shelf. I've also asked to Bergen County HD/Buell (the only dealer that I found in the Battle2Win ads which would say that he ships Buell parts anywhere, so supposedly overseas as well...) but they don't have it either. If you American Buellers who read these lines could be so kind as to think about asking your dealer next time you visit him ("Hey Dude, I know a french frog on a Buell who wants a X1 race header ? Have you the stuff ready for shipping ?"), I'd be very much indebted... Otherwise, I'll just be patient as Nick and I'll wait until 2002... ;-) By the way, why the header and not the muffler ? Because I have the SuperTrapp IDS and it's a direct slip-on the race header... So I don't need the recalled Buell stuff ! Looking forward to hearing the wonderful news "my dealer has it !" from one of you. All the best from the snowy french Alps, Jerome (riding in the dry plains with hot hand grips...) |
Mitchs2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 07:30 pm: |
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Blackbuellm2: When you installed the Daytona Boss on your M2, why was it necessary to redrill the holes in the mount? I am having problems making mine fit and any additional information may help. Thanks. Mitch Smith |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 08:16 pm: |
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Jerome, mon amis, maybe try posting your request in the "Parts Wanted" section of the classifieds. Wouldn't hurt anyway. |
Buellriderm2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 08:43 pm: |
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Mitch s2 The front mount on the BOSS is tricky. When I did mine I figured out to pinch the clamp shut with a pair of pliers and then cinch a zip tie down on it to where you can move it into position and then run the bolt through. The bolt won't fit until the clamp is almost closed. Don't, I repeat, Don't make the holes in the mount any bigger. The wrap mount should be very reliable, but if it were to break it would probably happen right there because there is the least amount of material, drilling it out would only make it worse. The only other bit of advise I might add is that I twisted the flanges on my mount just slighty so the mount lines up better with the bend of the pipe. Happy Mounting! BLACKBUELLM2 What year is your Cyclone? I have a Black '99 with the Boss and a forcewinder, seems to be a great combo for the carborated motor. -Justin |
Mitchs2
| Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 11:07 pm: |
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Buellriderm2-- Thanks for the information. Every little bit helps. I have been struggling to make the Daytona Boss front clamp compatible with the updated exhaust bracket kit on my 99 Cyclone. I thought maybe I was missing something when your mentioned redrilling the mount. I really like both the pipe and the updated exhaust mount kit. At this point I am leaning toward putting the pipe back in the box and waiting until Daytona Boss comes up with a clamp that will fit the updated backet. |
Jerome
| Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 08:20 am: |
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One more thing following my last message on Wednesday : in case there is a misunderstanding, I don't ask to any of you folks to take care of buying and shipping to me a race kit header ! Just to take a few seconds next time you visit your favorite Buell dealer, inquiring about the availability of the reference 65400-99Y (X1 race header) at that specific store. Then, a short e-mail to tell me "there's one at the following store..." will be enough to make my day and I'll get in touch directly with the dealer concerned. So far I got answers only from Dave Tripper and Woz (deep thanks to both of you !). I can't imagine that such silence could be due to American buellers being careless for a remote french member of the Buell "family"... ;-) |
Rocketman
| Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 08:27 am: |
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Jerome : I know of nothing in the UK, but I'm hopefully heading upto Just Harley's next week. I'll ask. Rocket in England |
Nxtr
| Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 02:44 pm: |
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Jerome, check your email I may be able to help you out Nick 00 X1 "Tropic" Lightning |
Mikej
| Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 09:09 pm: |
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Jerome, I was at Hal's today. The nice gal at the parts counter checked and they didn't have one in stock. Then she checked the data base and it shows that San Jose H-D has one in stock, that's in California. Maybe one of the locals there can call to verify inventory @ (408) 998-1464, P/N 65400-99Y. MikeJ in salted whiskeyconsinville |
Richy
| Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 09:51 pm: |
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I installed the new exhaust bracket on my X1 today. Went pretty smooth. One question though - I figure the stock muffler tabs would sit in the middle, but instead sits more towrds the motor. the muffler tab has about 1/16" space from the outer metal sleave of the bracket. Can someone let me know if yours is similiar (stock muffler) and if this is normal fit? The rubber bushing definately is further in on the right. See below. \image {2001 exhaust bracket on X1} |
Richy
| Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 09:53 pm: |
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I installed the new exhaust bracket on my X1 today. Went pretty smooth. One question though - I figure the stock muffler tabs would sit in the middle, but instead sits more towrds the motor. the muffler tab has about 1/16" space from the outer metal sleave of the bracket. Can someone let me know if yours is similiar (stock muffler) and if this is normal fit? The rubber bushing definately is further in on the right. See below.
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Ccryder
| Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 11:54 pm: |
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Richy: The two rubber donuts will move and adjust themselves as you tighten the mounting bolt. They actually float in their round receptacles. That is part of the beauty of this mounting system, it adapts. I usually tweak mine if it is too far out of alignment but your should snug up nicely. Neil S. |
Hans
| Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 03:06 am: |
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Richy, well done. Hanger as photographed at the exhibition.
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Jerome
| Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 04:51 am: |
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Nick and Mike : deep thanks !!! Mike, I've just sent a fax to San Jose HD/Buell, inquiring about the race header. If this doesn't work, Nick may have another Hawaïan solution. I cross fingers that these dealers will not consider that doing business with a customer living thousands of miles away is a waste of time... I'm really eager to fit the race header on my Buell. Since I've installed the 2.5" OEM header instead of the european 2" header, there's a serious shift of power toward higher rpm and the Buell lost a significant part of its huge surge of torque in the 2.5-4K band. I expect from the race header to give back the low rpm torque and still provide the significant increase of power at "high" revs. At least in theory, this is what should happen... ;-) |
Peter
| Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 05:38 am: |
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Jerome, Where in the French Alps are you? I just got back last night from a week of skiing aroung Chatel, near the Swiss border. PPiA |
Loki
| Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 11:13 am: |
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silly question time..... Has anyone heard of the stock muffler breaking its butt welded front tabs? just curious, not that I have a stock muffler..... on my M2 still loki |
Gian4
| Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 11:31 am: |
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Hello: I have a quick question. Does the new muffler mount fit older Buells. I have a 97 M2 and my front mount is starting to show some ware. I was thinking of replacing it with the newer mount. Also is the new mount specific for each model ie X1 vs M2 etc.? Thanks for the help. Also all you snow bound northerners do as I do. Get your butts on a snowmobile and have the time of your life. It brings me back to my 2 cycle motorcross roots. You get to see places you wouldn't ever see on skis and you meet some pretty nice folks {as well as some A-holes}......Try it you'll like it..... Drive careful Gian4 1997M2 |
Richy
| Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 12:02 pm: |
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ccryder, How did you go about tweaking the rubber bushings on the mount. One tab on the muffler is to close to the metal sleave of the mount than I care for. Don't want a fix to cause a problem. By the way when I removed the stock mount the bushings were prtty cut - up. |
Richy
| Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 12:02 pm: |
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ccryder, How did you go about tweaking the rubber bushings on the mount. One tab on the muffler is to close to the metal sleave of the mount than I care for. Don't want a fix to cause a problem. By the way when I removed the stock mount the bushings were prtty cut - up. |
Richy
| Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 12:18 pm: |
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Also should the stock muffler be dead center in the new mount? |
Richy
| Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 12:22 pm: |
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Also should the stock muffler be dead center in the new mount? |
Bomber
| Posted on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:17 pm: |
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All I'm sure this is posted somewheres, but I can't find it . . . . is the BOSS system Stainless, or chrome . . .. kinda hard to tell from the pics . . . . . it seems to be the ONLY system I've not read any horror stories about |
Loki
| Posted on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 09:58 pm: |
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Bomber, you bet it is stainless! loki |
Lee
| Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 11:30 am: |
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Just talked to my dealer, they said the Race Kit and muffler is "pending obsolete". Has anyone else heard this? Also has anyone had any luck purchasing one or does Buell have them locked up because of the recall? I wonder is they're "subbing" someone out to make their Race Pipe for them. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Lee |
Cyclonem2drew
| Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 03:44 pm: |
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My Daytona Boss pipe came in today...can't wait to put that thing on! Loki - You have the Force with the Boss, right? Do you have the XR2 model? Is this the right setup to have...I need to be convinced! I cheaped out initially and bought the K&N for my breadbox, but now I'm thinking about bringing that back (haven't used yet) and ordering up a Force. Did Rek tell you that you get a HP or Torque gain with this combo, or does it stay at stock? |
Richy
| Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 07:05 pm: |
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I was looking at the HSA exhausts web-site. Pretty nice looking exhaust. Wonder if they are available or will be to the US? Looking at the size of the can, perhaps this would be a quiet upgrade from the stocker. Anyone have any info on this piece? |