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Cyclonemick
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I pulled into work this morning and a co-worker notified me that I had no Brake light. My tail light is still working though. Are there seprate bulbs or do I have something else wrong? Right before I walked in I did check my fuse under the seat and it looked ok. 00M2 Cyclone.
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last night before it started raining I checked and unpluged and re-pluged all of my wires going to the taillight housing and Rear Brakelight switch and I stil don't have a brakelight. Does any one know if I could check the Braklight switch with a multimeter? Tonight I'm going to pull the bulb Since I have never pulled one and Inspect. Is the bulb something I could buy at Autozone?
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Kdkerr2
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I am not mistaken the Buell uses an 1157 automotive style taillight bulb with twin filaments [just like Harleys]. You can indeed purchase these at AutoZone or any other auto parts store.
KK
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sometimes the little contact nubs on the base of the bulbs will get indented. A quick knurling/molding/massaging with a knife blade edge or key edge can often bring the nubs back into decent enough shape to restore contact with the socket contact plate/finger. I just had to do this with the M2, after I reattached the broken wire going into the spadelug. Sometimes one problem is really two that happen to happen at the same time.
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks! I think I'll hit up Autozone on my way home this afternoon and pick up a new bulb.
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Bad_karma
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know about the M2 but my S1 & 3 doesn't used 1157, some european bulb but 1157 can work. Yes the spring contacts are a problem. I'm with Mikej but can't vote anymore. My S1 used to vibrate the filaments right of their post. Make sure the support bracket hasn't broken its retainers(pop rivets)and shaking excessively. The best fix I have found is an LED 1157 lamp assembly that plugs into the current fixture. They are a little pricey but I have gone over four years without a tail lamp failure in a Bike that would break lamps a couple times a year.
Joe
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just to finish up the topic, I changed my bulb to a 1157 from the local auto store and my bikes now has a brake light. I did notice they had some LED lights comparbale with the 1157 but they were $19 bucks compared to $2 that I spent. Is there a big difference between the two?
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Bad_karma
Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My LEDS are brighter but that would depend on type and number of LEDS. But they have lasted a lot longer.
Joe
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Jayvee
Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found this a while back one a different site, it seems like it works, except the price I paid was double what he said. Still insignificant. Also they are not at "any" auto parts store, but I have 3 different brands close to me, plus a hardware store, it was 2nd place I tried.

"Brighter tail/brake lights
On bikes that use a 1157 tail/brake combination bulb, a simple and inexpensive upgrade in the brake light illumination is readily available.
A 2357 tail/brake combination bulb, available at any auto parts store, will produce the same brightness for the tail light (3 lumens), but will produce 25% greater brightness for the brake light (40 lumens vs. 32 lumens).
The volts required to power the 2357 bulb are the same as the 1157, but there is a slight increase in the amps required (2.1 for the 1157, 2.2 for the 2357). The resulting increase in watts used is only 1.28 watts, or a 4.76% increase over the standard 1157 bulb.
The only draw back to using the 2357 bulb is the rated hours of service for the brake light element is much less (400 hours for the 2357 brake light element vs. 1,200 hours for the 1157 brake light element). The tail light element in both the 1157 and the 2357 are rated at 5,000 hours. Assuming one rides 4 hours per day, 365 days per year and uses his/her brake 25% of the time, if the brighter 2357 bulb is replaced annually, there should be little chance of in-service failure.
Cost for a 2357 bulb is about 97 cents."
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