| Author | Message | ||
     Stormfool |
Would appreciate any input on this shock recall debacle concerning my 2000 X1 Millenium--I have measured eye to eye on the properly set shock and get 17.2. Is that the original perhaps--or a First recall edition? How can I tell if the unit is one due to be replaced by recall? If it helps here' the VIN:4MZSS81J5Y3225612--my dealer has varied between helpful and notso--so before I approach I'd like some facts to back me up. Any Info here would be great--Thanks... Oh--also have a problem with front exhaust bracket of race header fracturing--should the dealer have to replace this--or not because it"s "aftermarket/nonstock"--waiting for replies | ||
| Bomber |
Mennis Blake is absolutely right about a polished aluminum dash . . . .I made one for a buddy, who insisted that it be poilished, and it only took two rides for him to start talking about alternative finishes . . . . engine turning looks classy. but a simple bead-blasting would look like serious equipment as well . . .. btw, ping me off line with yer snail mail address, please . . .we've got some unfinished business! | ||
| Blake |
Stormfool, Sounds like you need a new shock. See the service bulletins near the top of the page that include '00 models. | ||
| Jugdish1 |
I have a 97 M2 in need of repair/replacement of fork componants (springs, valves etc..) Has anyone had dealings with any of the aftermarket companies such as progressive or Race Tech? I need some insight as to who seems to have the better than stock package! | ||
| Blake |
Race Tech or Traxxion Dynamics are both very highly respected. | ||
| Josh |
Anyone happen to know stock factory settings (rebound/compression) for a 95 S2? i.e., which click is which? My RS looks like it has the same forks as an S2 and I just want to compare. When I bought it, the owner had cranked preload in the rear to almost max, then maxed compression and minimized rebound front and rear. | ||
| Bomber |
wow . . .sounds like a fun ride, yes? | ||
| Josh |
uh, yeah. Something like that. It pogo-ed bad, but was rideable until I corrected the front suspension while waiting for info on the rear. The front then did much better, but the rear proceeded to "skip" over any bump when cornering. Rear sag was 3/8", is supposed to be 1- 1.5" But the RS does have hydraulic preload which is kind of cool. | ||
| Rookie |
Are there any other ways to safely remove the swingarm without doing what my service manual suggests? | ||
| Hootowl |
Yes. Remove the four bolts that join the swingarm mounting block to the motor. The process is detailed on ATC | ||
| Saeanddte |
Are all the 2002 model rear shocks the same and if so will an OEM shock from a 2002 model work as a replacement on a 98 S3? What additional modifications or parts would be needed if it is useable? I need a replacement and am trying to avoid purchasing a new one. Thanks in advance for your help. Scott E. | ||
| Davefl |
The 2002 shock is a couple inches shorter than the older shocks. Use of the new shock requires a new mount. David Ingle | ||
| Saeanddte |
Are the front shock mounts for the 2002 models all the same or are there differences between them? I purchased a 2002 shock to go on my 98 S3T. It includes the front mount. I am not sure which model it came off of, But I am pretty sure it was not an S3. I'd like to go ahead and order the mount if I need it. Thanks! | ||
| Blake |
Sean, I believe the answer is no. I believe that Davefl is incorrect. The new shock mount is to accommodate the new muffler mount and relocated voltage regulator. You would do well to be darn sure about what you are doing. I believe that the new ('99 and later) swing arm is the governing factor requiring the shorter shock. I believe all '96 through '98 Buells use the longer shock, even with the new mount and recall shock. Not 100% sure though. I know my '97 M2 with recall shock is the longer version. The M2L has a different mount. | ||
| Hootowl |
Hmm. I thought the new mount was to accommodate the shorter replacement shock. I didn't have to put a new mount on my 99 when I upgraded the muffler hanger, and I still have my stock shock. | ||
| Al_Lighton |
And when the first recall Showa shock (long, small eye) on my S1W leaked, they replaced it with a new shorter large eye shock, and it got the new mount. I had the original muffler hanger on at that time, and only later put the new yoke muffler hanger on. Of course the VR is back by the battery on an S1W. Al | ||
| Saeanddte |
Al, I believe your answer is the correct one. I am replacing my shock for exactly the same reson as you except I guess the time ran out for the "Goodwill Replacement". After re-reviewing the service bulletin (B-035A) and making a call to Greensboro HD/Buell/Kawasuki it was determined that the "New front shock mount" listed as one of the parts in the kit (Part No. K1400.e) for 1997-1998 S3/S3T's is in fact for mounting the shorter shock. My next question, for which I will have the answer for later in the week, is whether or not the front mount in the kit for the '97-'98 models is the same as the mount that came stock on 2002 models? I have already ordered one ($88) that comes from the kit and I believe the shock I purchased (a take off from a 2002 with 300 miles on it) may have the mount with it as well. If so I will do the comaprison and post the results. If they are the same I'll have one for sale if anyone is interested. Thanks for the help and discussion. Scott E. | ||
| X1glider |
This info came from traxxion dynamics: 1999-2002 X-1 Fork Problems The forks on this motorcycle are considered by many tuners to be excellent quality components. They are damping adjustable Showa units. They do lack an external preload adjuster. While these forks do have excellent bump absorbing ability, they are extremely underdamped, even for street use. The springs are too soft as well. These flaws combine to result in a soft, mushy, vague fork, that inspires little confidence for aggressive use. Fork Solution Our full fork service includes: · A complete disassembly, cleaning and inspection of all parts. · We install the Traxxion Dynamics Axxion Valve Kit into your cartridges which provides firm feel and amazing bump absorbing ability. · We replace your stock rebound piston, as the stock piston design allows for too much internal leakage past the shims. · We install Traxxion Springs suited to your weight and intended use with proper preload. · The forks are filled with clean fluid and set to our desired level. · The forks are adjusted and ready for installation when you receive them. · The cost for this upgrade is $675. If you require new seals, that is $25 extra. We suggest you change the seals if you have 1/2 season of racing or 5K street miles. Our common turn around time is one week for this service. Shock Problems: We haven't found any "bang for the buck" in working with your stock shock. It has no ride height adjuster, and even when properly valved, the damping adjusters has little or no effect on the shock. It has an orifice-damping style piston in it that makes for harshness over bumps. It requires an odd shaped spring that is not readily available as an aftermarket part. It is so expensive to upgrade this low quality component that we strongly encourage you to replace it with an aftermarket shock. Shock Solutions: Here is some infomation on aftermarket high performance shocks, for you to review. Since an aftermarket shock is a relatively expensive upgrade, we make sure that any shock we sell is properly sprung and valved to suit your application so that there is no compromise in their quality or performance. You can enjoy your investment for many years to come, and actually add value to your motorcycle! Penske is the only company with a suitable replacement shock for the Buell. The prices quoted in the links below are not specific to the Buell shock. Since it is comprised mostly of model-specific parts, the cost for this shock is much higher. The 8981 for the Buell is $900. The 8987 for this bike is $1250. http://www.traxxion.com/products.shock.whichaftermarket.asp | ||
| Blake |
That's great information Bob, thanks. I see in the current Cycle World that Ohlins is already offering an adjustable height shock for the XB9R and XB9S. Cool! | ||
| Buell_Freak |
I was changing my front muffler mount and thought it would be easy to undo the rear shock front bolt. I did this before making sure the bike was secure, when the bike dropped, the remote resovoir was still attached to the front mount. I broke the line from the shock to the resovoir. The dealer said it is not fixable. Do I have to find another shock????? Or can this be sent somewhere to be recharged???? The hose seems easy to replace. Kevin | ||
| Josh |
Racetech or traxxion should be able to fix it easy. They'll tell you it's not worth it to upgrade the internals but I bet they can fix seals and parts for ya. | ||
| Ocbueller |
Kevin, Can't say you aren't willing to jump in and get your hands dirty. Don't hesitate to break out the beers and ask Craig, Bill or me to give you a hand. We learn by doing, but that gets expensive too. My buddy Crazy Mikey from NY recharged my WP shock for me. He has the nitrogen setup and rebuilds alot of off road suspensions. Recharging the WP required adding a schraeder valve. Not sure have to look at my Showa to see if there is a valve. I can give the shock to him but it'll probably be a few weeks. Can probably locate a hose that would work at one of the local moto shops(non Harley). If not I know of a shop that makes hydraulic lines that might save the old one. SteveH | ||
| Josh |
Anyone know the wrench sizes needed to adjust an '01 S3 shock? | ||
| Roadweazel |
Greetings! I'm looking for input on which fork springs to use in my '95 S-2 with the White Power front end. I contacted Race-Tech and they wanted me to use something like a .95 kg spring, which I (and some racer friends) believe will be too stiff. My bike is used for street riding, with some twisties now and again. I have the stock springs in it right now and it's way too soft. I have the updated rear shock on the bike, which is kinda stiff. You can contact me directly at glockweazel@yahoo.com . Thanx. Colin | ||
| Tavs |
Guys: I'm working on converting my M2 to an X1 front end. I scored a complete set up including trees for $250.00! I need a bit of information form some of you w/X1 manuals: -What is the setup for installing them in the forks (fork heightin the clamps)? -What is the volume of fork fluid that should be used? -What are the baseline suspension settings? Thanks! Gus | ||
| X1glider |
Bad info so I'm deleting it. | ||
| Josh |
Bob, you sure? I thought stock springs (mostyears?) were .65 and Buell Race springs were either .85 or .95 RaceTech springs. | ||
| Henrik |
Colin; I'm away from my note book right now, but AFAIR I'm running 1.05 kg/mm springs in my S2. I'm about 190 lbs (on a good day  ) and do mostly spirited street riding and sport touring - always full protective gear and a tank bag. That spring rate works well for me - with correctly set up preload mind you. I had Traxxion Dynamics do the work (revalving, new seals etc.) and am happy with it. Henrik | ||
| Henrik |
Gus: do not use a volume measure for fork oil "volume". You need to measure the fork oil height from the top of the fork tube with the spring removed and fork fully compressed. Make sure to "pump" the fork/damper rod several times until all air has been expelled (I listen for lack of "bubly/slurping" sound, leave it overnight and pump some more). I don't have the actual X1 number, but many bikes and suspension tuners recommend starting with 120 mm fork oil height. Henrik | ||
| X1glider |
I've have been talking to Henry Duga every month and I know what he's been telling me. However, Josh you made a good call. Perhaps I shouldn't believe everything he says. But he has been good to me regardless. Here's what I found after digging around. S2 has stock .658 kg/mm springs X1 has stock .750 kg/mm springs I still agree with the use of .95 kg/mm springs for anyone who's above 170 lbs. At 185 lbs and for a track bike I'm between .95 and 1.0 kg/mm. Sorry for the mis info, so I deleted it. |
