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Maxbuell
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have no helmet and need to get one . I don't have alot of cash to spend. Any one where to find a solid lid. THANKS.
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Certain Wal-Mart stores have full face BELL Helmets ... "i" bought one !!! They are good ...
BELL was the first helmet manufacturer to make
a full face helmet and have been around a long time ... They are $84 and some change and a good
value ... NEVER RIDE WITH OUT A FULL FACE HETLMET !!!

In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Jayvee
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Suggest you read this too: http://motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/hatz/

This article suggests only a DOT helmet, not a Snell, but obviously this is a decision for you.

But no reason to spend a lot of money, is the point.

I had Bells for 30 years, but the new one I just bought is made in China and looks exactly like the Z1R brand, and many other cheap brands. It's almost like there's one maker in China, who makes slight cosmetic changes for each brand that imports them. I won't bother with the Bell brand any more! Kind of sad.
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Deltacruiser
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a Scorpion ex-400 full face that I paid $135 for and I actually like it more than some of the Shoei's and Arai's that I've tried for much more money. Snell 2000 rated and the venting system is the best I've ever used. Check them out. My favorite local shop just started an online clearance section and has some of these on there. www.throttlewear.com

No I don't have any affiliation with that shop, they have just treated me well over the past couple years since they opened.

Delta
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Fubar
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can get a very nice HJC DOT/Snell almost anywhere on the web for ~$100. A very good value.
fubar
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Must be my head, don't really know, but the Fulmer AFS7 (which I think is discontinued?) is the most comfy lid I've ever owned. Not the most expensive, nor the cheapest, and it's rarely mentioned in any survey. I like them :-)

G2
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Tyson
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 03:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i own a scorpion exo 700 and absolutely love it!
its more comfortable than any hjc and has excellent vents. you can pick one up for about $170. Great first helmet! i think ill ride in this one for a couple seasons til i invest in an arai or shoei
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Smokinjoe
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have a KBC VR-1 and love it and i have a vr-2 also. i found them on ebay for about $100 less than in the store...they are snell approved also(if you care about your melon)..the vr-2 runs a size larger(if you wear an XL..get the L)
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Captainxb
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

QUOTE: (NEVER RIDE WITH OUT A FULL FACE HETLMET !!!)
By what I have read, there is not a persuasive enough argument that open face helmets cause greater injury (are unsafer) than full face helmets.

The majority of impacts to the head are side to rear, or front top, seldom directly to the chin.

I believe the choice of helmet style comes down to comfort factor.
For freeway riding where greater wind speeds, rain, dust, bugs, etc prevail, a full face helmet would be advisable.
For town speeds during nice weather, an open face helmet is fine; get a pair of goggles or a visor for just in case!

You'll generally find open face helmets alot cheaper than the full face ones.

If anyone has concrete evidence against this, please speak up now.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The proof is as plain as the nose on my face ;)
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Reep. After my little "get off" at Deal's Gap last year, I can vouch for the full face helmets.

Captain said "majority of impacts to the head are side to rear, or front top}. While that may be the case, why take the risk?!?!?!?!?
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Ka5ysy
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just obtained a Shoei X-Eleven, and it is great! this thing flows air like you will not believe, and the anti-fogging vents actually work. A nice touch is that the lever on the left side has a position that opens the shield just a little for any fogging that does occur. It is also very light weight and comfortable.
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Ceejay
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

third on the full face-
had an HJC during a get-off at about 50mph, after somersaulting once or twice-not sure how many-I slid on my face and hands. glad I had a full face as I might not have a nose left. Helmet cracked down the middle and the face sheild couldn't be looked through but still kept my face from taking a beating...
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Jessicasdad
Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can add to the argument for a full face. As embarrassing as it is to admit did a slider face first during the first day of my MSF training . the parking lot we were using was damp and there was some oil or grease in one of the "tracks" that had been setup. Well, I was the first rider through and as I went through the turn the bike slid out from under me and I went sliding. The ONLY thing to really take a hard hit was the left side chin area on my helmet. There were a few other students with open face and half helmets standing around and when they saw my helmet a couple of them went out and replaced theirs ...

just my 3 cents
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Eboos
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 06:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a HJC CL12 full face helmet. It vents well, the visors are commonly found at local shops, and it only costs @$125.00.
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Southern Marine
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to take away any business from anyone, but when you don't have a lot of cash to spend and want a good deal, try outlet's/clearance sales. AZMotorsports.com has a clearance/outlet section where stores from ALL over the US are trying to get rid of items. I bought an HJC CL-14, normally around $140, for $50, brand new. It was the last one the store had and they were trying to get rid of it. I was lucky, it happened to be the color I needed and I just added some reflective graphics to it.
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Rafartist
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HJC's, been wearing them for years dirt and street. I think I am on my 10th or 11th right now. I am rocking one of their modular ones on the street right now and love it. I also have 2 CLX-4's for the dirt that I switch back and forth between liner washings. They work too, I have smacked my nugget a few good times in them and they have never let me down.
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Rafartist
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and my girl is rockin one of the Walmart Bells right now and she says its really comfortable. Oh, the only complaint I have with my modular, is the visor doesn't fit against the shell well and it leaks air in when its cold.
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Lorazepam
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

rafartist,
You may be able to adjust the shield by loosening the racheting mechanism on the side of the helmet. take it toward the rear of the helmet to tighten it up.

Put a thin layer of vaseline on the shield, and see where it makes contact to the gasket, and where there is a gap.

Adjust the side that will bring the gap in to the gasket. Move it small amounts, because if you take it too far in, it wont shut properly either.

dont forget to clean the vaseline off the shield every time, so you can see how the adjustments affect the overall fit.

Good luck, it really isnt difficult to do.
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Rafartist
Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice, thanks. Now that its warmer out, I was ready to think of it as just some more venting. LOL
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Ptown
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buying a second Helmet

I am looking into buying a second Helmet, the helmet I have in mind is the ROOF R05 Roadster Legend.

Is there anyone that has one or can give me some info, feedback on it.

I am living in Ankara and I have to order it from the UK or Europe.It would't be possible to fit it before buying.I am using a medium Shoei.
tks
Eugene
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Yohinan
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is my input. Take it for what it's worth to YOU. For those that want to slam me for my opinions please give legitimate reasons for the slam rather then telling me I dont know what I am talking about.

First I will never ever, ever buy anything made in China again. Lets just say I have spent several hundred dollars in expensive repairs on a few of my vehicles for buying parts made in China. Does China have the ability to make good parts? YES. If you pay for them. But how do you know that what your buying was one of the parts that was built to certain specs or not? You dont! Therefore I wont buy anything made there again. Use China made parts at your own risk but I will be the one to say told you so every time a China made part fails. I always look at everything I buy now to see where it's made.

As far as less expensive priced helmets go, can you get one that is made to hold up to a crash? YES! But I invite you to answer this question. Is your head worth more than the 100 or 200 dollars to you that you spend on a helmet or is it worth more than that to you? Just my opinion there. I would rather spend more on a better made helmet that I know will outperform a less expensive made helmet. There is an obvious difference in craftsmanship/materials used between a no name DOT approved helmet a more expensive well made name brand helmet.

As far as buying a used helmet I would suggest using extreme caution as you dont know what your getting. If you get into the nitty gritty of helmets then you know that a helmet is deemed useless after one drop from about 3'. Which is basically around the height of your motorcycles seat. One drop from that height and it is said the helmet is no longer good for a crash. Also how do you know what your buying has never been dropped if you purchase it online? Then again if you do have the ability to look at a helmet in person and dont see any scratches how do you know that the helmet was not being hung on the handlebars when stored? That also deteriorates the helmet over time and renders the helmet less than ideal for a crash.

All in all what I recommend is prior to buying anything do your research on helmets and what affects them negatively such as the things I mentioned above, and by no means is that an all inclusive list. I would rather not ride for a little while until I could save up for a good new helmet or a used helmet that I could personally inspect to ensure it was not mistreated from it's former owner.

Just for clarification all the above statements are standards in the helmet industry so please again, before slamming me do research into what I have stated so you can see for yourself if what I am saying is true. Is your head really worth skimping on when it comes to a wreck? And remember that there are helmets out there that cost upwards of 30,000 US dollars. Yes you read that right. HTH John
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fit is the most important thing. More than cost, paint, or features. Helmets, like heads, are made in different shapes, so a Arai or Shoei may fit you but not your bud. Helps a lot if you can try one.

I like my HJC Sy-Max modular. I wear glasses & the flip up chin bar is nice for putting on & off, and the quick run into the gas station to pay. I figure a dork with a Knight's helmet style front open is less threatening than a full face lid's faceless look. I know I'd be nervous if an iridium shield has me looking at myself if I was still doing America's most dangerous job. ( convenience store clerk )

The Sy-Max is noisier than my old Vetter, but the ancient one has zero ventilation, needing the visor open most of the time unless at speed & warm out. So.... Chin vent to keep shield clear is an important feature. The HJC is decent, but I still open the shield at stop lights.

I just bought a Suomy Spec 1R, ( for $200 off on a year old lid, the only way I could justify it ) It's light, noisy ( rumbles & even roars when the top vents are in the high speed air flowing off the S3 fairing )but no bad lift & stable at speed ( tested good to 100+, closed course only, wink, wink ) it's even better than the Sy-Max ( which aint bad ) for not torquing the neck when you turn your head at speed. The Suomy has the best air flow I've ever felt, though I read the Shoei X-11 is king there. The top vents are always open, so it's a good hot weather lid. The chin vent blows on your mouth as well as the inside of the shield. The paint job is outstanding. ( I got the Bostrom replica )
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