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Jrh
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well... I know of one nitwit who was in Daytona for a few months,including cycle speedweek,+ instead of going to the 200, he, waited outside the speedway until the race was over and then went inside and bought up a whole bunch of used rear slicks,the one side was worn way more than the other but they worked pretty well for dragracing.Luckyly,he had receipts when a police officer grabbed his arm and wanted to know what he was up to,it was a long time ago and some of the tires had the names Nixon,Sheen,Roberts written on them in chalk,man i should have kept those.
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Henrik
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Considering the heat cycling and the dramatic change in tire shape due to "lean angle" wear,I would *never* buy a used slick.

On track days you'll feel a worn tire starting to get "greasy". A little less grip,less secure feel, a tiny bit of wiggle going out of turns, a bit of front wheel "skip" on fast turn in. Back in the paddock the tires looks fine - seemingly lots of thread left. But trust me, once it's gone, it's gone.

Henrik
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Xwoody1
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MY FIRST POST AND ALMOST MY FIRST CRASH.TWO DAYS
AGO I WAS FOLLOWING A CAR.TOO CLOSELY AS IT TURNS OUT.WE'RE COMING UP ON A INTERSECTION WITH A GREEN LIGHT.THIS GUY PUTS ON HIS BRAKES,I CAN SEE
THERES NO ONE IN FRONT OF HIM. THIS GUY MUST BE LOST OR SOMETHING.SO I CHANGE LANES TO GO AROUND
HIM AND THERE IT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
INTERSECTION. A PILE OF METAL CONCRETE FORMS!
NOWHERE TO SWERVE TO.I PUT ON THE BINDERS HARD,
BUT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH RO0M.LETTING OFF THE
BRAKES JUST IN TIME TO HIT AND FLY OVER THE FORMS.
I THEN REALIZED I WAS STILL UPRIGHT,BUT THE DAMAGE WAS DONE.FLAT TIRE AND A BENT PM WHEEL.
NOW THE QUESTION: CAN A SLIGHTLY BENT PM WHEEL
BE FIXED? MY DEALERSHIP SAYS NO, ARE THEY JUST WANTING TO SELL ME A NEW ONE FOR $735.00. THAT'S
ALOT-O-CASH.ANY INFO IS APPRECIATED.
XWOODY1
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Aaron
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.mcwheel.com
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X1Woody. Check it out.
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Bigfanof6
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay Guys, (and gals)
It's time for some new rubber on the M2. I only want to replace the rear and leave the D205 on the front. I'm by no means Nicky Hayden, but I like to lean, so sticky is top priority. Having a tire last more than 5000 miles would be a definate plus. Should I go with the Bridgestone 010, 020, Dunlop D220, Pirelli, Metzler, Michelin, etc.? I need some feedback here.
Thanks in advance.
Chris
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Bigfanof6
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, almost forgot.
Considering above post, I'm thinking about going to a 180 on my M2 mostly for the looks. Any drawbacks, fitment problems, rubbing, etc?
Thanks, AGAIN.
Chris
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did your stock D205 ever drift out on you? I'd be careful running different tire compounds between front and rear. Not tire brand so much as how sticky they each are. I think I'd want my softest tire up front, not in the back.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you have the stock or PM wheel?
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bigfan,
Have a 180 on my M2 No problems at all. Only thing is where my wear limit is isn't to the edge cause of my pegs. Handels fine also, i pulled some bad ass times on Battletrax. Also looks awsome, really fills in the inner fender.
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Bigfanof6
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl,
No, I had pretty good luck with the D205. Very little slip. I have the PM wheels. Do they still make the 205? I have no real problem buying another 205 except that if I HAVE to buy a new tire, maybe there's a better one out there. I would really like a dual compound tire (Harder in the center, softer on the sides) if they make a good one. That's why I'm asking you guys. I'm sure most of the tires out there have been tried and I LOVE to learn from other peoples money. I know the stock tires on my Ducati, which were Michelins,(don't remember model number)were downright dangerous. I might have well have been riding in the snow with those things. Replaced with D207's and all was well.
Thanks for any help.
Chris
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm on the D207's myself. Not an endorsement, that's just the tire that replaced the stock D204's that came on my X1. Since I only needed a rear, I stuck with the Dunlops (no pun intended) so I'd match. I've since replaced the front with a D207 for the same reason. One of these days, I'll swap them both at the same time and then who knows what I'll use.

Avon makes a good dual compound tire. They also use variable belt density, which makes the carcass stiffer in the center, and more flexible on the sides. Never ridden on one though.

The 180 looks good, and fits the PM perfectly. I ended up with VERY little clearance between the tire and the belt, but it doesn't seem to rub.
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Xwoody1
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the info aaron & hootowl.they
both sound alot better than coughing up
$735.00
xwoody1
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Snowdave
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chris,
I can strongly recommend the new Dunlop D220's. They are the replacement for the 205's, cost about the same, but handle much better. I have always had to use some muscle to hold my bike down going through a turn, but with the new 220's, it stays exactly where I put it. All of my riding is touring, commuting, some twisties, etc, no track on a 99 M2.
Just don't get them through your dealer $$$$$$$.
Dave
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've heard that the marchesini wheels are lighter
than the PM's and was wondering if that was true.


Justin
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Court
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Justin:

That is true. Please note that Buell "cast" wheels are currently (well until the last of the tube frames) made by Castalloy. Specs are the same as the Marchesini

Court
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
Thanx for the info, now for the next question, how
much weight are we talking about here? Would it
be that much of an advantage or would I be safe in
keeping my PM's. I'm not a serious racer, just want
to keep any uneeded weight off. I feel the best
performance mod you can make is shave off the extra
weight.

Thanx,
Justin
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Jrh
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Justin
Somewhere on this site i read the PMs weigh about 4 lb.more(total, both wheels together) than the Buell Castalloy,don't know how accurate that is though.Buell shows their castalloy wheels on their website now,$335.50 each,5 color choices,seems like an incredibly low price for that quality wheel,too bad they don't come wider than the 5"rear though.Ive considered a wheel change for weight savings too,but have never really been able to find weights of the Buell wheels listed anywhere.I doubt if the savings is significant for street riding though.One site i found that compares weights is for an RC51 Honda, www.rc51.org/wheel.htm Two sites that list wheels for Buell,hipointme.com + ram.mc Also indysuperbikes.com shows a few prices.It looks like 2-3 thousand $ to save maybe 6-7 lbs.over castalloys.

Maybe Tat at American Sport Bike can give some info if you phone him,he sells some aftermarket wheels.
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jrh,
I'm not going to sweat over a couple of pounds unless I can get a real good deal or swap mine even, cash flow very low at the moment. I do like the five spoke magnesium wheels in the ASB catalog but $1900.00 is a bit much, even for my Buell. These PM's can be a pain to keep shiney too and I'm not much for cleaning anything that takes over five to ten minutes.

Justin
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>>I'm not going to sweat over a couple of pounds

The difference is MUCH less than that and would NEVER be noticed as a practical matter.
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info, I'll save my money to buy more polishing compound.

Justin
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know the actual weight of the castalloy and PM wheels?
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Suzypoozie
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the difference in the D220's and D207's? I have the D204's (I think) now, and the front tire needs replacing.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's the rundown on those tires.
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Jmartz
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot:

A while back B2W published the weights of the 3 wheels fitted to Buells. I do not remember the actual #'s but I can tell you that the heaviest was the PM ("light racing wheels" they are not) followed by the cheaper Marchesini Knock offs, the Australian Castalloys and the finally the lightest were the the real aluminium Marchesinis.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. And I paid extra for all that weight...
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 05:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>A while back B2W published the weights of the 3 wheels fitted to Buells.

I did a chart for, if I recall correctly, the 2nd or 3rd issue of Battle2Win and I'll be damned if I can find it here. I'll see if I can run it down.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl... I will be happy to trade you straight up for my "super light racing wheels" (stock) ;)

Bill "just that kinda guy :)"
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Reep. What a guy.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brake pad question.
I am planning on installing a 2000 rotor on my S2. Should I be using sintered metal brake pads or non sintered metal pads??
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