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Author Message   U4euh Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 10:16 am:        Thanks Mike, I can't seem to get the computer to link top the bike. I had it linked once, did the TPS reset, AFV reset, went to load the XB12 race program and everything went south from there. Maybe one weekend if you feel like riding this way I'll BBQ. Then we can hit some of the local roads. Upto you. I'm gonna keep trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong   M2nc Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 10:38 am:        Well, off to the barn to work on bikes. Only problem with four bikes is you have to maintain them. Yesterday I had a set back on the M2. After 400 miles without a drop of oil, the well sprung again. Brankin, Mark and I rode down to the fish camp and on the way I started to hear a rattle. I knew it was out side the motor but could not identify from where. We stopped for gas in Maple Hill just before we ran down OMHR. I looked down trying to find the rattle and saw a familiar oil leak. Again around the timing cover and oil pump. The same oil leak I thought I fixed with the oil pump gasket. Well, back to the drawing board. The rattle ended up being the rear muffler mount was loose, completely un related. On top of the M2, both the Blast and Uly need both tires replaced and the Blast rear bearing needs replacing after Mark found the dust cover had popped off. The bearing never let go, but I am not chancing it. Last night Mark and I stopped at Harbor Freight and picked up a Pittsburgh Blind Hole Bearing Puller. Cheap with a lifetime warranty, can't beat it. Off to the barn.   Jlnance Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 09:15 pm:        Morrow Mtn today (Message edited by jlnance on April 03, 2010)   Spectrum Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 11:13 am:        AMA Racing the weekend of the 16th at Road Atlanta. I'd like to take Friday off and head down earlier to watch the practice sessions. Riding the bike down and staying in a hotel. Two day pass w/pit pass is $60 (Friday free with 2-day pass). Anyone want to go?   Jlnance Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 08:50 pm:        What a beautiful day it was.   1313 Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 10:11 pm:        So about a year ago I put the 2nd new clutch and primary chain in the 1995 S2, along with a new shorter Showa shock on. When it came time to fire it up the 8 year old battery (gotta LOVE battery tenders...) was dead. So I bought a new battery and it fired right up, but made noise and vibration from the primary. Readjusting the primary chain had nearly no effect on the noise and vibration. Feeling the primary cover it felt like the offending area was at the front primary sprocket (aka motor sprocket). Last weekend I got the gumption to start tearing it down to see if I could see anything obvious - but I was armed with parts just in case. I replaced the front primary sprocket - aka motor sprocket as mentioned above - and lost a little over a pound of weight with the updated sprocket. Old (OE S2 part) attached to the rotor of the charging system: New sprocket not attached to rotor: After pressing out the old sprocket and pressing in the new one last week at work I was ready to begin reassembly this weekend. Until today I had not noticed anything obvious as to the cause of the offending noise. However, as I was trying to put the bolts that hold the chain inspection cover on and met serious resistance in getting them to thread in I found the source of the noise (and why there were LOTS of 'metal fuzzies' on the magnetic drain plug. Old bolts on left, new bolts on right: Why the new bolts wouldn't thread in: Obviously the new bolts were an 1/8" longer than they needed to be/should be. Looking in my S2 parts book, unfortunately since they are H-D parts I can't decipher the technical description like I can with Buell part numbers, so 41191-74 means jack to me. In any event a 5/8" long 1/4-20 flat head internal hex bolt would've been perfect rather than the 3/4" long 1/4-20's I got. I put the old bolts back in and she fired right up (because I fired it up before I pulled it apart last weekend to verify that the noise was still there - and it was) and the only 'noises' were some light lifter/pushrod ticking and the almighty boom of the Buell factory race exhaust. TUBERS ••••••• RULE - no matter what Froggy thinks he knows!!! 1313   Jlnance Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 08:32 am:        Lust http://mcallen.en.craigslist.org/mcy/1667442202.ht ml 2002 M2 with 2500 miles. That works out to about 1 mile a day. That may explain why it's so clean. It looks cleaner than new. That is a beautiful bike.   M2nc Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 07:10 pm:        Webe and I replaced our first wheel bearing. Note to self, if you see the dust cover come off a sealed wheel bearing, stop riding the bike. Buddy at work told me if the dust cover comes off it's because the bearing got hot. He was right. Even though the bearing looked okay from the outside while on the bike, it was quite apparent after taking the wheel off that the bearing was falling apart. After getting the bearing out we saw that the wheel side of the bearing was gone and the only thing holding the bearing together was wheel. When we got the bearing out, it fell apart. A few more miles and it would have been ugly.   Bishopjb1124 Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 09:46 pm:        1313 got your package today. Thanks now I gotta get the wifes light on. I will be through New Bern the 1st week in May and need to drop something off by your place. I sent you an email about it, I just need to know how big you want it I think my plotter is 42 inches just gotta check what size paper I have. Jimmy   U4euh Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 10:43 pm:        Spike was that you that was zipping through traffic in Asheboro Sunday? Jim- it don't look like that now   1313 Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 11:52 pm:        I rode the S2 to work today. Man, what a world of difference from the XT. The S2 has better power overall with no 'holes', but definitely has more vibes (why did I put that S2 racing 4th tie bar on it many moons ago, again?), and is a wheelie MONSTER. The handling seems a lot slower than I remember, but back then I had never ridden many XB's where I could explore the handling or a single 1125. And then there's the GLORIOUS sound emitted from the Buell Pro Series Race Exhaust on the S2. Hopefully the XT will benefit from some behind the scenes activities to close the gap between the XT and the S2. For those inquisitive, I'll have to pull a Court and ask you to 'remind me to tell you sometime'. TUBERS ••••••• RULE!!! The CR gets it's charging system harness upgrade Saturday and then there will be one less thing to worry about. Thanks for your help last night, Webe! Ramble - off, 1313   Spike Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 09:40 am:        quote: Spike was that you that was zipping through traffic in Asheboro Sunday? Not I. The SV has only seen commuting duty so far. At the moment it's down while I rebuild the forks. I got one fork leg completely disassembled, but I need to fabricate some tools before I can finish the job. Apparently I don't need to hurry as bikebandit.com hasn't shipped the parts I ordered last Wednesday. When I get everything back together we'll have to plan a weekend to play around with ECMspy and do some riding.   Fishgutz Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 04:51 pm:        Spike, it seems a popular mod on SV's in fitting a Firebolt front end on it. Imagine that. Buell forks and A ZTL brake on an SV.   U4euh Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 09:50 am:        Let me know when your up and running, sounds good to me!   Jlnance Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 07:15 pm:        I rode a Tiger today. I want one.   Spectrum Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 09:07 am:        Jim - Triumph makes some sweet machines. I have a tough time going back and forth between the Buell and the Sprint because they feel is so different. The Buell inspires much more confidence when leaned over, but the Sprint tips in much easier. The Tiger is a little tall for me which is why I went with the Sprint. The Tiger has a better suspension than the Sprint though, so it probable has a better feel when leaned over. Just upgraded the exhaust on the Sprint to Trident Carbon Fiber system. Must of lost 10 pounds and gained a few ponies (pictures below). Dealer installed the TOR Tune as well. Why is it Triumph provides and will install a factor tune for after market free-flow exhaust and no other brand well? Before: After: Stock: Trident:   Jlnance Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 09:52 am:        That exhaust looks good Spectrum. Does having it under the seat make the seat hot? For the passenger in particular.   Spectrum Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 10:09 am:        There is heat coming through the seat for rider and passenger. My son & daughter have stated it's not a problem for the passenger unless you get stuck in stop-n-go traffic. I have a sheep skin seat cover that takes care of that for long rides though. I have to say my Buells have had just as much heat coming through the rider seat as the Triumph. Guess that's because your setting over the rear cylinder with the twins. By the way the Tiger is a better bike for two-up riding. Triumph is rumored to introduce a new model that sets between the current Tiger and Sprint for 2011my. Supposed to be a full fairing bike with upgraded suspension and side mount exhaust and bigger panniers. To be called the Sprint GT and still based on the 1050 triple. That engine is a gem. Smooth like the IL4 but flat torque curve like a V-Twin. The triples don't have monster torque like the twins, but much more than the IL4's and very learner throttle response. (Message edited by Spectrum on April 11, 2010)   Jlnance Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 02:11 pm:        Two up is important. Is there some way to give the passenger some back support? The Triumph website has a top box with a back rest they show for the Sprint. But not the Tiger. I don't know if that was an omission, or if they don't exist.   Bishopjb1124 Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 08:20 pm:        That exhaust looks like cannons pointed out the back of the bike. I like the look alot, it is a very sweet looking system. Jimmy   Spectrum Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 10:14 pm:        Jim - The Tiger SE comes standard with side panniers and the top case is optional. But they definitely do have a top case. Givi also makes a top case kit for the Tiger. Most Tiger owners I've talked to prefer the Givi over the factory top case. Thanks Jimmy! (Message edited by Spectrum on April 11, 2010)   Frinzo Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 03:38 pm:        hey, just an update, Bishop gave me a hand yesterday on my buell and we retorqued the primary nut and adjusted the primary chain. It still makes the noise but not as bad. now i just need to get the basic tune up parts (20k on my bike now) But i did ride it back from Va Beach. So im good with it riding. So the question is, when u guys/gals having a ride?   Bishopjb1124 Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 06:09 pm:        Myron, Glad it helped out and ya made it down there alright. Did you get bug splattered a lot on the way down? Jimmy   Frinzo Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 02:54 pm:        funny thing is, i got bug splatter in va beach, and a one or two once i was on 17..   Spike Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 12:13 pm:        Update on the SV fork upgrade: I still don't have everything back together as all the parts haven't arrived, but UPS says I'll have them today so the bike should be back together for the weekend. I've been reading up on suspension stuff; it's worse than reading about motor oil. I think I know less now than when I started. Spring rates, spring preload, oil weights, oil level, static sag vs total sag- everyone seems to have a different opinion and even the 'experts' have different recommendations. The stock SV650 springs are 315mm long and have a rate of .70 kg/mm. I've cut my stock springs to ~265mm giving me a spring rate just a hair over .85 kg/mm. The track guys seem to prefer a .90 kg/mm spring for my weight, but since this is my first attempt at modifying stock springs I wanted to play it safe. The .85 spring is 20% stiffer than stock, so it should feel much better even if not ideal. I also made new spacers out of PVC to compensate for the shorter spring length and add a little more preload. The extra preload might be too much when combined with the stiffer spring rate, but it's easy to pull the spacers out and make them shorter. The stock fork oil is either a 5w or a 7w, but it seems to degrade into tap water over time and everyone agrees it's too light. Some guys jump straight to 20w, but most seem to think the 20w is too heavy in cooler temperatures and leads to a harsh ride and chatter at the track. I played it safe again here and went for a 15w. Oil level is another one of those mystery areas. Too much oil reduces suspension travel and could blow the fork seals, too little oil could let the suspension bottom out. The stock oil level is 102mm below the top of the fork tubes. Most sources say the oil level should be 110-115mm with stiffer springs. Some track guys say that anything less than 110mm results in too much brake dive while others are claiming good results at 140mm. My plan is to start at 110mm and adjust from there. The good news is that everything I've done so far has been cheap. Including the cost for tools and parts I've spent well under $100. If I don't break anything I should be able to make future adjustments for nothing more than the cost of fork oil and PVC.   Jlnance Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 05:47 pm:        Sounds like an interesting project Mike. Keep posting, I like hearing about this stuff.   Spike Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:44 pm:        The evening didn't go quite as planned. I got the parts today, but it turns out they shipped the wrong fork seals. I talked to Bikebandit.com customer service and they're getting the replacements out at no charge, but I'll have a few more days of downtime.   Seeinstars Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 06:55 am:        Who's going to be at ray price for open house today? I'll be there. My buell is cherry red this time.   Seeinstars Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 10:17 am:        I've got mine entered in the show. Only buell so far entered. Anyone else coming?   Spike Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 05:02 pm:        I was hoping to stop by Ray Price for the festivities this afternoon, but it didn't work out. Mike- did you win anything?