| Author | Message | ||
     F_skinner |
The only point I see is he rides like an •••••• with his friends. I do not usually ride with people besides my girl but whenever there are some Buells around they do not want to do an all day ride or over night rides. Half day is about all they can handle. There, see what I just did, I stereotyped all Buell riders based on my experience with them. Just like you clowns are doing to Harley riders. I think some of your are very good representatives of todays Buell rider. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
I hate these Internet who-can-pee-the-longest-and-farthest contests - there's never a winner, only a big, stinky puddle. Fellas, it's quite possible that Harvey Bussman could hand all three of us our asses on a platter. I've never ever claimed that a big-twin Harley is the equal of a sportbike on a twisty road. To believe so would be ludicrous. But I am flattered that a few of my friends threw this ol' man a bone on this thread for my riding chops astride the P.O.R.K. T'ain't no Buell, but she can move pretty good for packin' so much poundage. Imona: To say that a Harley can't be "fast" or "quick" is tantamount to saying you can't tour around the country on an 1125R. Of course you can. It may not be as efficient at it as my Road King, but it can certainly be done. Same with the RK: It ain't the best tool for draggin' the Dragon, but it can certainly be done, and done well enough to open an eyeball or two. I don't go around picking sport-fights on the RK. It's not the right weapon for such skirmishes. But I'll mix it up when the timing is right, and the RK has earned its keep in this regard several times over. Busman, maybe someday we'll get a chance to ride together. I think it'd be a lot of fun - win, lose or draw. Sorry if I've come across as rude, inconsiderate or arrogant - that was not my intent. FB | ||
| Pdxs3t |
Interesting thread.... I have ridden with many Harley riders, on the street and even on the track. Some are the type that ride from bar to bar but, those people are in a very small minority. Most of the Harley riders I have met and ridden with love the open road and ride hard. Just as hard as any Sport Bike rider does. As for Mr. Haughton, he can make his Road King do things beyond belief (and any other bike he throws his leg over)! Take a ride with him sometime, you'll see what I mean. Keep in mind though, he is very safe and methodic in his riding. He knows when to turn it on and when to turn it off. And when he turn's it on, watch out! You'll see what an old guy can do riding a couch. It really doesn't mater what a person rides, just as long as you do it safe and enjoy sharing the passion of motorcycling with other's. If the Harley riders are going slower then you, what's the big deal? Ride at your own pace, everyone will eventually arrive at the same destination at some point, right? (Message edited by pdxs3t on April 13, 2010) | ||
| F_skinner |
Well Said | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
It really doesn't mater what a person rides... +1,000,000. Thx for the kind words, Jim - your check is in the mail.  If I was actually any good at this I'd be making a handsome living doing the two-wheeled thing, signing autographs and making the cover of Cycle World. I'm not, I'm not, and I'm not. I understand the anti-Harley sentiment coursing thru BadWeB's veins of late. I think a lot of what I've read in this regard is misguided or misdirected, but passions run high in this sport, and Buell has been dealt a cruel hand. I wish Erik the best in his endeavors, and by no means do I think my Harley is the equal of a Buell on a technical road. I was poking fun in my first post on this thread, and shoulda included a  at the end, or, perhaps, just said nothing at all. See y'all on the road. I'll be the old guy on the couch. FB | ||
| Charlies_s1 |
Very cool Jerry, I think we should try and understand it's not a Harley thing it's a management thing and direct our bad feelings toward them not the riders or the brand. We do share the same passion, Ride safe my friends. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I LOVE MOTORCYCLES!!!! and most of the douche bags that ride them.... If it has 2 wheels... its for me! I will twist the twisties.... I will ride to eat, eat to ride... I will ride it clean... I will ride it dirty... I will ride it wet I will ride it dry I will ride yours, you can ride mine... I don't CARE!!! I just want to ride! now if I could just get paid by the mile.... | ||
| Tiltcylinder |
Relax, find people who want to ride like you do. If you can't, ride alone. I ride with people on HD's, imports, whatever. The group has been as large as 15 on a rainy 8 day trip. When I was on the kick only ironhead, everyone else on new injected bikes... I was the limiting factor... every 100 miles, needed to look for fuel, wasn't going to wring it's neck at 90 on the highway for two hours either. I would say "meet you at the next scheduled exit/turnoff" and ride my own ride. Now, on the XT, I tend to be the one waiting. That's OK. If someone doesn't want to grind off their floorboards... I'm first to tell the group "we'll wait at the next intersection/turn/exit, don't worry" 400 miles a day in 40 degree rain isn't for everyone. After a few rides, they figure it out for themselves or we only ask them on the short 3-5 day trips. Getting passed on the inside by me on the ironhead or someone else on a Road King is usually enough. On the Buell I sort my self to the front of the group or ride rear guard. The rule is RELAX... let 'someone' in the lead know when there's a 'problem' (cold,tired,gas,food) and we accomidate. There aren't too many people in this world that any of us want to spend ten days on the road with. I'm glad to have met and befriended the people I ride with now. It's a good group, bike doesn't matter, brand doesn't matter (although we do tease the guy on the goldwing... toe heaters?), gear is a personal choice (just don't complain about your wet leathers when you brought no rainsuit). Just be prepared to ride (rider and bike), smile occasionaly, be reasonably responsible and relax. | ||
| Blake |
When a big fat bully kills one of my friends, I don't much care for the bully. | ||
| Blake |
To put it simply, I'd much rather ride a Yamaha. I sure won't be riding a Harley-Davidson, not after what they did to my friends. If I already owned one, I'd sell it. The thought of how that corporation is now run literally makes me sick, especially given the recent revelations by Steve Anderson. When Buell showed signs of becoming a major success, the miserable types at H-D sabotaged it. | ||
| Paint_shaker |
What Wolf said!!! P.S. I do get paid to ride... You just don't want to see me in your rearview mirror!!! hehehehehe!! (Message edited by Paint_shaker on April 21, 2010) | ||
| M2nc |
I want to second what Tilt said. To me it is very important to find riding partners with the same goals for riding as you. That is more important to me than what type of bike the person is riding. I remember one ride before I was a Bueller, me on my CB750, my co-worker on a Kawi Cruiser 1700cc and a friend of a friend on a beautiful Ducati Monster. My co-worker was leading the ride and he was wringing it out. On the CB750, I was able to match his average speed which meant my co-worker would pull away on the straights and I would catch him on the curves. At the end of the road the two of us both lost sight of the Ducati. We waited for a minute and the Ducati appeared. My co-worker then raised his modular helmet face and asked the Ducati rider, "Am I going to fast for you?" An honest question of concern but I could not help but laugh. Probably more than not, people on this board would not like to ride with me. I will be either too slow or too fast for them. Ferris and I ride together very well because he is a more experienced and more talented rider than I, but with him on the Road King and me on the Uly, I keep up most of the time. Then there is Webe, a convert, Webe was on a Harley when I asked him to ride my Buell because I was out of commission. Now we each have One Uly, One M2 and One Blast in our respective barns. When we are about to head out we call each other and ask, what do you feel like riding? For long trips, we ride the Ulys, for romping around home we like the M2s, and when we feel like nuts, we ride the wives' Blasts to a 600 bike Harley benefit ride. So I have to agree with Bussman and Tilt, its more about the man than the machine. I'd rather ride with a group I enjoy being with, or just ride by myself. With that said, other than for work, I rarely ride alone. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Ferris and I ride together very well.. Carlos, I agree, and thanks for the kind words. More experience, yes. Better? Doubtful. In any event, it's a joy to ride with someone talented that you trust, which is always the case riding with you. It's finally cooled down some up here, but my lawn got mowed today for the second time this year. Reckon it's about time for Mountain Grass, amigo. JH | ||
| Dave_02_1200 |
Most of my HD-riding friends ride around close together in big groups. Their group rides are not my idea of a good time. They usually ride at moderate speeds and sometimes end up blocking traffic on country highways. Frustrated drivers who can't pass safely sometimes try to pass the group anyway and that can be dangerous to all concerned. I usually ride alone so I can go where I want to, stop when I feel like it, ride at my chosen speed, etc. all without worrying about being run into from behind by a closely following rider who had "just a few" beers at the last gas stop. I have nothing against HD riders, I just don't enjoy group rides. However, on several occasions I have really enjoyed riding with one or two friends (on HD or other non-Buell bikes)under the right conditions. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
my alter ego rides Harley And Betty is getting new shoes and a make over, pics when she is done Ginger the dirty biatch is parked out front with a fresh coat of mud | ||
| Bikemakr |
I do- on days when I want to go slow...lol Our usual group includes metric cruisers, Harleys, an occasional sportbike, and my Buell. Men & women, husbands and wives, fathers and sons. I ride alone a lot, too. Usually on a Saturday morning when I want to blow the cobwebs out, and a bit faster than when I ride with the group! | ||
| Buellmojo |
I ride with whoever, no matter what they are riding, but yes sometimes the waiting does get tiresome at times, I too do not consider myself as a fast rider...The major majority of my riding is alone though, I kind of prefer riding that way. | ||
| Court |
>>>>now if I could just get paid by the mile.... You've no idea how fun THAT is . . . . $0.67 a mile doesn't sound like much but when your assignment is "get as many miles on it as possible" . . .it's a BLAST ! | ||
| L8_br8ker |
I own a 09 xb12 scg, and a 2010 fat boy low. the buell has 1/4 inch chiken stripes, cause I have no left foot, or they wouldnt be there. I recently took it on a 1150 mile ride solo, with a one day stop over in North Carolina, (I live in NY). I had no discomfort, and loved every inch of the ride. The Fat Boy is surprisingly stable and agile, but the floor boards spark if I try to hang even a reasonable twisty. Its slow as hell (stock) compared to the XB, but it eats miles on the highway like a Coupe Deville, and is like sitting on the living room couch. 6th gear is for 70+mph, and it goes near idle at 70. Its decked out, but still doesn't get the attention the Buell gets. My group of 7 all ride big Harleys. I normally rode captain on our trips. They dont like the Buell, cause no one even looks at thier RK's, and Ultra Classics when I ride the Buell, and they all hit brakes when we hit the twistys, cause they say I vanish at twisty entry Bottom line, the Fatboy is loud, comfotable, and stable, and holds enough fuel to skip a gas stop now and then, and I don't need a 5 minute break every 2 hrs. on it, the Buell makes my heart thump, and I will go around a GSXR 1000 in a tight twisty, just to show superiority, but I am in love with em both. I take the Buell when alone, and the Fat Boy when with the boys, both are great fun. | ||
| Slaughter |
I ride with friends who ride. | ||
| Skinstains |
To ride with friends with harleys I would first need some friends. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
skin - that made me LOL | ||
| Whisperstealth |
I ride in a pack of all harley riders except myself and one other person. Been in 20+ bike packs for hundreds of miles at a time. It sucked at times on the X1. We would go 55-60 for long stretches through the hills. The X1 really didn't like less than 60/61 in fifth, but reved higher than I wanted in fourth. The Uly is a little better. It is what it is. Some of the guys can really haul on the cruiser's, others can't. I'm the odd ball, so I deal with it. | ||
| Jak49 |
I like to ride with people who like to ride as I do. I hate riding with the leaf lookers and the "I'm scared to take the turns faster than 20 miles an hour" group. I have friends who ride cruisers who can really make the sparks fly and I have met a few sport bike riders who think riding is going up and down the main drag and looking at themselves in the windows. I want to ride with people who know how to ride, understand riding ethics/manners and aren't scared to push the envelope. I look for those types and that's who I ride with. | ||
| Toecutter |
I don't care what they are riding. I prefer what I would call a sporting ride. A quick pace, but not breakneck speed, unless I'm on a track. So I don't like riding with people that are slow, nor do I like riding with people that are too fast for public roads. Therefore, I tend to ride alone a lot. I will ride with one like minded friend occasionally, and will go on one or two group rides a year. That being said, I do have an opinion about loud pipes on Harleys. I have noticed that a lot of these guys have not tuned their engine properly to run with the pipe. For instance at a stop light, my Buell (with stock pipe) has no trouble maintaining idle with the throttle closed. However, almost all piped Harleys can not. Almost without a fault, the riders of these bikes must constantly blip the throttle to keep them running. Some even have to rev them up to a few thousand RPMs. When you have a bunch of these fellas at a stoplight revving the crap out of their engines just to keep them running it sure does make a big racket. As I sit at the intersection across from them, next to the kid in the cage covering her ears, and the old man flipping ME the bird, I shake my head in sympathy for those fellas just trying to keep their bikes running. As the light turns green, I offer the conciliatory wave, but they are so embarrassed that they cannot even bring themselves to acknowledge me. Poor fellas. (Message edited by Toecutter on April 13, 2011) | ||
| 1eyert |
I to usually ride by myself, because currently I work every weekend and cannot find weekday riders, and also there just don't seem to be any Buellers left in Tucson. I also like to set my own pace and not play catch up or feel like I am going to slow for the rest of the group. But that's just me, to each there own, I will ride with just about anyone if the route and destination are interesting... | ||
| Dj66ftw |
I have been riding on the street since i was 18 and in the dirt since age 11, on Honda's, Triumph's, Iron head Sportsters for 20 YEARS, my built 93 XLH for about 7 and now my 99 s3(t?). I've ridden them all hard,as hard as i dared and not kill them.Except for when i did. I LOVE THIS BIKE! Everything i've learned wrestling sportsters around the back roads out here makes hammering this thing around almost transcendental. I ride with a club, almost all big harley's so i do a lot of riding in a pack and it can be a drag. On some roads the guys know to expect me to disappear, although they aren't exactly slow. On a poker run or the like you are in a pack with people you might not know, a moderate speed is advisable,so we go the speed limit. | ||
| Strato9r |
I'll ride with anyone. Harley upper management and philosophies regarding the marketing of a "lifestyle" have little or nothing to do with the riders I know that own Harleys. I don't like what happened regarding H-D pulling the plug on Buell any more than most of us on this forum do, but the "leadership" of Harley Davidson at that time is responsible for that, as well as the marketing practices that, if continued, will prevent H-D from ever being a manufacturer which can develop products in a wide range of market segments. I cannot hold at fault my local Harley dealer and their excellent and knowlegable staff for corporate decisions they have no say in. I only know a handful of H-D riders that are actually narrow minded dicks that think every other motorcycle sucks; most have other machines in their garages as well; V-maxes, CB750s, Suzuki water cooled two strokes, Beemers, you name it. The very name of H-D's own newsletter, "The Enthusiast" defines the passion for the thing that lies at the core of most riders that own Harleys; the enthusiasm for motorcycling. Personally, it would be great to see H-D adopt a strategy similar to that of Triumph, whereby "vintage" style machines sit on the sales floor with sport bikes, streetfighters, dual sports and touring rigs. However, that would likely mean that some machines may not be domestically produced; a very important issue with a brand so strongly defined as an American icon. Blake makes an excellent point-"When a big fat bully kills one of my friends, I don't much care for the bully." I get it, I really do. But, let's be clear that the "bully" in this case is just a hired gun a$$hole in a Harley T-shirt with matching assless chaps. Don't let that guy, whether he is a CEO, or some douche canoe at the corner bar, ruin the reputation of a fine and proud marque. | ||
| Weatherman |
strato9r most intelligent comment yet on the subject. triumph seems to have the best outlook and broadest appeal outside of japanese marques, who cover all segments. | ||
| Dj66ftw |
Aren't all chap's assless? |
