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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Replacing the TPS unit , need a program that works on 2009 xb model year? Thanks
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To zero the TPS:
a. Set the Run/Stop switch to the Run position.
b. Turn the ignition key to the On position.
c. With the engine off, rotate the throttle grip from closed throttle position to
wide-open throttle position and back to closed position 3 times holding the throttle
grip against each stop for 1 full second.
d. Cycle the key off and back on.
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ie; no special tools required to reset it.
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Need to replace it though..so it has to be set up first...?
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Should just be a bolt on part, do the reset and go.
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm Was told it had to be position on the T.Body...So are the 2 mounting bolts just 2 holes , OR Are they like slots to adjust?
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Ericz
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No slots. Just bolt on and perform TPS reset. A service manual will tell you exactly what to do.
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay thanks guys...Much appreciated.....

btw Guess the above TPS reset procedure is the way to do these resets on the 2008 and newer....Don`t have a manual at present time....?

(Message edited by hogs on May 03, 2014)
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1313
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guess the above TPS reset procedure is the way to do these resets on the 2008 and newer...

Correct-a-mundo! It works for anything DDFI3.

Same procedure works on my '08 XB12XT and my '09 1125CR,
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks!
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Hogs
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2014 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn still having plms. oh well...
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Dwilson357
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are your symptoms?
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Power is down, Up around 3800 , 4000 rpms and on as well okay IF one drives easy, but under power its Not right... Changed TPS sensor Was better for a day or so back to the same...Cleaned IAC or whatever its called on the Throttle Body back together Worked GREAT for like 100 klms or so...Now back to the same loss of power seems better when first start and cool, But still not full power when it works good...for about 10 to 15 mins....

Its werid to say the least..It is on a 2009 So its different ECm, etc than older than 2008 model years...Not sure IF that makes much difference etc....
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also there is not , or never was a check engine Light on !
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does one reset the A/F ratio as well on these 2009 Model years?

OR will/Can the Dealer do it?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So you're thinking that an oxygen sensor may be bad?
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Dwilson357
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you can reset afv with tunerprort or ECMspy...For later models its more cost effective by a million to TunerproRT
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NAtexlh1000 I really don`t know..Thought I may start5 there replacing sensors as I go... What else can one do..No check engine lights etc.....

Dwilson357...My problem is I have No ideal which files etc to download or how to use it at this time even if I had.....

I`m a Lost Child lol...


Thanks for all the info though you guys sooner or LAter..Hope its sooner I will find what the heck is going on... maybe many $$$$ later ;-(
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Dwilson357
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are several tunerproRT manuals put out by Xoptiinside, Very helpful and informative..these got me up to speed very quickly. check out his website and see what you think.
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IF, Say a Rear head temp. sensor goes south, it throws a Check Engine light correct , at least it did on a 2004 and 2005 model year I know of, Not sure on the 2009 and what about a bad 02 sensor, I think I heard that it may or may not throw a light?
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Xbgeorge
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bad O2 sensor didn't throw a code on my 2008.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A failing sensor can but won't always throw a code. If it is only failing a little (like only reporting 20 degrees off), that is still within its normal operating parameters and the bike would be none the wiser, just thinking it is running a bit cooler/hotter. If it is way off, the bike can sometimes know it is getting a bad reading and then throw a code.

If you are going to change the head temp sensor, might as well do the Oxygen sensor while you are in there and rule that out. Bosch 12014 is under $14 USD on Amazon at the moment.

The AFV can be reset with the TunerPro RT program, it is a pain in the ass to setup and get running, but once you do it is great. If you have some extra cash, EBR sells a dongle that can reset the AFV (and do TPS resets and other wizardry) - http://www.erikbuellracing.com/store/cmi-lite-diag nostic-tool.html
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks XBGEorge , Froggy Appreciate all the help on this...YEah will replace both, but for now until funds permit, gathering all info of what IFS. it may be...
BTW Froggy,That tools looks good especially for the 2008 and newer Buells...


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Hogs
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice cheap price on those 02 sensor thanks...Anyone know what a REar HEad Temp sensor is worth or a CROSS REFERENCE for that too?
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did a Check fit on Amazon for a 2009 Xb12R Firebolt comes back as:

This does not fit your:
2009 Buell XB12R Firebolt

Hmmm IS this just a problem within Amazon or?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

American Sport Bike shows all 99-09 bikes using the same O2 sensor, while looking in the parts manual, the part number changed for 2008+ bikes. S0131.02A8 on the older bikes, P0277.5AA on the newer ones. I've seen posts where the 12014 was used without issue on the newer bikes.
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2014 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks again Froggy.....
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2014 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do the easy things first. replace the spark plugs. The gap is .035 change only when engine is cold,and use anti sieze. check plug wires. Check for any historic codes.{has ECM location change been done to this bike).
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Gabby_duck
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2014 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy is correct on the Bosch 12014. It works great with my 09 ULY
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2014 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gabby duck.. Thanks pal..YuP did that all ready, known bad plug wires etc.. But wasn`t the problem..Still Zonk! BUt do have a o2 sensor on order.. Still open for any other ideals, Just the same..; )
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