| Author | Message | ||
     D_adams |
Just something different from stock headers. Five piece slip fit headers, spring retained. The springs and hooks aren't on this one yet, but it ran fine as it was without them. This one will clear the large (Uly) right side scoop without issues.             This is from the question, can it be jacked up with this muffler. Yep.    Wasn't much point in going any higher, it was stable enough with just one band around the muffler and the bolt without a nut in the front. No header to support it, so it's strong enough to jack the bike up for tire changes if needed. This pipe didn't have outlets on it as it wasn't finished completely. It was built strictly as a test unit. | ||
| Kdogshirow |
Sweet !! Very Nice ! | ||
| Tq_freak |
AWESOME! How much?  | ||
| D_adams |
Headers are $465 + shipping, muffler is $600 + shipping and whatever options you want, such as polishing, powder coating and/or outlet style on the muffler. | ||
| D_adams |
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| D_adams |
1.75" on the left, 1.88" on the right.  | ||
| D_adams |
Not exactly perfect, but they'll get the job done.      (Message edited by d_adams on March 13, 2013) | ||
| Sticks |
Those look great! The biggest problem I had with my Beson was ongoing issues with cracks developing in an area that was two 90's (ish) welded together to make what looks like a 180 or thereabouts in your front header. I know, apples and oranges, but... I think the 180 bend is a much better way to go than putting two 90's together. Now I just need to save up some cash and bug you to make one for me. Nice work! | ||
| M1combat |
Can you do something like this with the collector?  In a 2 into 1 config of course  ... (Message edited by M1Combat on March 16, 2013) | ||
| M1combat |
Or maybe this one?  | ||
| Xoptimizedrsx |
Dean, You had good reviews on the pipe I took to daytona to show the Guys who came to the track. You should be getting a couple calls for one or two... Time to put it back on the bike and do its tune for the XB9's (Florida), then off to get the XB 12 data for it... | ||
| D_adams |
M1combat -- You do realize how much more expensive that type of merge is, right? I don't have the equipment or a jig set up to cut those properly, but just to buy one in 1.88" x 2.5" is about $160 without shipping costs. The performance benefit isn't there to justify it, it _might_ make 1-2 hp difference on an XB, if even that much. They're certainly nice looking (burns stainless?) but unless you're going for all out hp and money isn't a problem, it's not worth it. | ||
| Fast1075 |
Xopti camped with us at Daytona. That pipe is a nice piece indeed. | ||
| D_adams |
Thanks, did you get to hear it? | ||
| Fast1075 |
Didn't hear it, Mike brought the unmounted pipe. | ||
| D_adams |
Mmmm, you missed out then. | ||
| M1combat |
I didn't check the prices... It just seems to me that it's pretty hard to improve on the stock header. Muffler sure... but header... Not so much. It isn't perfect of course  . I'm not saying that. I wouldn't doubt that yours makes more than stock. But the stock one is pretty good to be honest. I've always kinda wanted to get one of those collectors and put it on a stock header. Unless you're going well over 1200cc or so... then yeah... you'll need a bit more tube . (Message edited by M1Combat on March 25, 2013) | ||
| Luftkoph |
yeah the stocker is most likely ok, but I cuss that engineer who designed it, every way you can when I have to put them back on | ||
| D_adams |
You do realize that the stock one can be removed/replaced without rotating the engine, right? | ||
| Hams |
Dean, Please elaborate on removing headers w/out engine rotate. Do you prefer suspending the rear (remove rear shock) method? or is there another way using the right tool combo? Thanks! | ||
| Luftkoph |
I have heard it can be done with out rotation I have enough trouble getting that s.o.b. to fit even with the engine down, but you've done enough to do it your sleep | ||
| M1combat |
You have to take the O2 sensor off. You "can" do that without removing the fan... You can use a crows foot to do it if you don't have an O2 sensor socket. You'll need to grind it down just right though. Just rotate the engine. It's easy. | ||
| D_adams |
I prefer to leave the engine in place. There are some good write-ups on how to do it, the short version is like this. Remove muffler, scoops, air box (outer and inner), oil cooler bracket (I left it hanging in place), battery, subframe (again, left hanging but off to the side), put a jack under the exhaust bracket to unload the suspension, rear shock top bolt, fan, O2 sensor, nuts for the header and then rotate it counterclockwise to remove it. I did this with the bike on pitbull stands. This is a short bit after I'd gotten it home.   (Message edited by d_adams on March 27, 2013) | ||
| Greg_e |
If you do it this way, clean the sub frame mounting points for a good ground path before you attach it again. The only thing not done for an engine rotation is pull the rear axle to loosen the bet and pull the front engine mount from the frame. Not sure which way is easier because I've rotated the engine each time or had the engine out completely for rebuild. | ||
| M1combat |
I've done it all the ways it can be done and I feel that just simply rotating the engine is easiest... | ||
| Kdogshirow |
This is a good thread . I gotta get me that Header this spring ! Good job !  | ||
| Mlink |
Free Spirits and Force had anti-reversion cones with the extra (equal) length. Do these? | ||
| D_adams |
No. The ti-force pipe looked like it necked down to 1.5" right before the merge, but it was inside, so unless you had it apart, you wouldn't know it was like that.  There was another removable part later in the pipe, it was just spot tacked in place but I didn't get a pic of it. | ||
| Mlink |
It's a great looking pipe. I have to recover from what I just paid to the IRS and would be interested in a some for a 9 in several months. | ||
| D_adams |
Well, I ordered another set of wideband controllers last night for this bike, so testing/tuning will be underway soon. Bike needs new tires, so that's next on the list. I'll be running the 1.75" set, not sure what muffler I'll stick on it at this point. Xopti/Mike is doing some tuning in FL with one muffler, I'll be doing some here in STL, eventually it will be available as a package I think. Both of us are currently working with XB9's but have access to 12's as well.  If you're on FB, this link should work. It's Mike's bike in FL. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=5976476635964 04&set=vb.100000535282496&type=2&theater |
