| Author | Message | ||
     Dj_rider |
anyone got a link and/or picture for a steering stabilizer for an 04 xb12r? thanks  | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Now you gonna get browbeat by the folks who think a stabilizer is nothign more than a band aid...might want to tell the top ama racers that one. Personally I think they are a great idea, surely cant hurt & if they prevent even 1 instance of a nasty headshake from spitting you off, then the cost is well worth it. | ||
| Dj_rider |
well ive taken my bike in 2 times to the dealership to have them tighten up the front end, and they said "well we dont think theres anything loose so we didnt do anything" so i duno, i want one (steering stabilizer) and maybe if anyone has any pictures of what i can check to tighten up the front end, as i do many wheelies  | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Get one then, nothing wrong with having one. Worst part is spending the $$. My R1 came with one stock & I am considering upgrading it to an adjustable unit. Just dont want to spend the $ right now. | ||
| Dj_rider |
heheehhe dyna i need a link to one for the buell | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
American Sport Bike sells em, Woodcraft has a nice unit, there are several others also..just dont recall the names. | ||
| M1combat |
There's a nice one that tucks up under the fairing for an XBR... I don't remember who makes it though ... | ||
| Dago |
the r1 came with one stock?!?! golly-gee squid, could you show us some closeup pics? and oh yeah... don't forget to include detailed descriptions of those you post. and please be sure to keep posting replies with references to your ownership of one of the most popular sport bikes around. there may be one or two newbies on this board who don't know you have one already. -- | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
The topic is about stabilizers, if you have nothing to add then move along. | ||
| Darthane |
Man, who •••• in his cereal? | ||
| Dj_rider |
9050 - XB9R Steering Damper 03-04 Steering Damper, Adjustable, 16 position, XB9R No bike should be without one. Tankslappers are not fun. Price: $319.00 will this work for the 12r as well????????? | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Yes. | ||
| Dj_rider |
thanks dyna | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
And since my new friend asked, here ya go. Sorry, dont feel like putting captions by them.  | ||
| Xblue9r |
dyna, i think you can do a swap with a nice ohlins without needing a mounting kit, however due to it's location it'd be a bitch to adjust when in motion. for ANY bike, i highly recommend one. they do work, and make holding corners easier, slow speed corners easier, add high speed stability, remove head wobble (even from worn tires to a point) and if you ever wheelie, even a little, you run the risk of tankslapping. they will not totally eliminate the possibility of a tankslapper, but they will reduce the chance of it when the front end comes down less than perfectly straight. under $325 for a damper (if it comes with a mounting kit) is a good deal, provided it's adjustable. | ||
| Stonecoldbuellin |
I wonder how hard it would be to wire up one of the electronic ones from the new CBR's. | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Is it speed sensitive? if so it might be a real pain in the butt. I hear they work great but as XB9 pointed out, a nice Ohlins can be picked up for $300 or so & they work great with no wiring. | ||
| Lpowel02 |
DJ...I'm pretty sure that damper you're referring to is the Storz unit. I've heard good things about it, for what it's worth... | ||
| Tbs_stunta |
Forget about adapting the Honda HESD, its tied in with the ECU. In a nutshell you're going to have something that attaches to a fork leg on one side, and the frame on the other. The one I have on my Triumph mounts to the cylinder head and the fork. Not all bikes need one, either their geometry is relaxed or they don't have enough power to get out of hand. This topic reminds of something I thought of a while back. I think that the perimeter rotor acts as a steering damper. As the speed increases the rotor becomes a gyroscopic steering damper. Its a very clever speed sensitive damper. It may not solve the entire problem, but I bet with a traditional rotor the Buells would be very twitchy at speed. | ||
| Al_lighton |
I tell you what, you hit a rock (or whatever) in the road and have it jack your bars outta your hands for a second, you'll think twice about steering stabilizers being optional on street bikes. I sure wish my wife's SV-650 had one when I hit a small boulder coming out of Lassen on the way home from Splash last year. I think it is a minor miracle that I'm here today to talk about it. Bike was tankslapping in the oncoming traffic lane until I came back down from over the handlebars and fell back onto the seat. Steering stabilizers are good things..I just wish we could get Scotts units to fit Buells. They rock. Al | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
I bet with a traditional rotor the Buells would be very twitchy at speed. The Hals & Kosco race teams never had any issues with the handling when they ran a traditonal 2 rotor unit on the XB's. Supposedly the way it was told to us is they switched back to the ZTL setup at Buells request...marketing & racing go hand in hand. | ||
| Tbs_stunta |
I can't imagine any race team not running a damper. So for the cheap seats...considering how steep the rake is, I bet an XB with a traditional brake system (without a damper) would be more twitchy than an XB with the ZTL rotor. The increased rotational mass acts as a speed sensitive steering damper. (Message edited by TBS_Stunta on August 17, 2004) | ||
| Slaughter |
I use Storz on our XB9/12 racebike. Same unit for the 9 or 12. I use the sidemount which has a bigger cylinder because the top mount tends to heat up more and your damping changes sooner BUT the side mount is vulnerable in a crash. http://www.storzperf.com Woodcraft makes a nifty unit that isn't so vulnerable in a crash. Seems like most cylinder types are going to be $300-350 or so. The XB's DO get headshake when ridden hard. Fast Fread Finnerty is an ANIMAL (San Diego HD/Buell) and he'll ride right through headshake and considers it entertaining BUT he has gotten headshake so badly that it whipped air into the front brake during a SOLO race at Willow Springs and his brakes failed. Pick your poison. Steering dampers are required by some race organizations and I'd sure recommend it if you ride ANY XB hard - especially where you might be loading and unloading the front end at speed. | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
especially where you might be loading and unloading the front end at speed. Steve, that seems to be when I get a tiny amount of headshake too. Crank it up & hit around 80-90 & then chop the throttle while at the same time letting up on the grips & you can actually see a tiny bit of wiggle start. But then the damper takes over & its done. Course I have never seen or felt any if I keep both hands on the grips either. | ||
| P0p0k0pf |
I'm not so sure about the ZTL Rotor improving things. The wheel would produce a much larger gyroscopic effect than the rotor, and the ZTL design allows for a -MUCH lighter- front wheel because the spokes don't have to be nearly as strong. If I recall correctly, Erik Buell stated that he was able to shave pounds off the wheel when other companies kill to cut a few ounces... If the ZTL rotor was installed on a standard bike wheel, I think it would enhance the gyroscopic effect as you were saying Tbs... but with the ZTL Buell wheel, any gain with the ZTL rotor is (I think) lost a few times over. | ||
| Slaughter |
As sold at American Sport Bike - for $319 that's less than I paid - DANG give Al a call!  | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Steve, who makes the one that mounts under the steering neck? I have seen the pics somewhere & its a neat setup. | ||
| Slaughter |
Woodcraft I thought made one but I didn't see it on their website just now. It's almost invulnerable in a crash because it's tucked away. Don't know who has them now. Woodcraft doesn't list their chain drive conversion either... Hmmm??? Mebbe too few customers? | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
I too thought it was woodcraft, but also didnt see anything. | ||
| Henrik |
Al, what's the word on a top triple to fit the Scott damper - I have one on the SV and really like the way it works ... and the way it mounts out of harms way. Henrik |
