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Darthane
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Odie, I just went back to the stock configuration (no real good reason. -=shrugs=- Now I've got a 12 top that I'm going to drill or carve up, which basically amounts to the same thing with less work!
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Odie
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1, if you (or anyone) let the air into the intake tract a different way than thru the frame (which I don't really care for- unique and neat but not efficient)I was thinking that you could make a plug for the bottom of it and use it for storage- tire plug kit, inflation CO2 cartridges, small pistol, etc. Just a thought. I think I would get more use out of that than a quart of fuel.........
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Tatsu
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NOS bottle holder!
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well with regards to the Drilled filter box ,Nice sound,.. and at 4000 rpms in 2nd just a quick wack will lift the front wheel abit,and third seemed to get pretty light up front as well sure seems like better throtle response to me,and I really don`t think the water thing wd. be a plm. after all,can``t see much being able to get in there anyways like I said if the filter is OIled as it should be, any water that found its way in I don`t think wd. pentrate the filter..BE nice to have a clear outer box so you could see with a water hose etc. directed at it.,is a drain at the back somewhere needed just in case???
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Odie wd. you still not have to leave that open for the rear cyl. cooling , as I think its open in back to direct air also to the rear cyl. I might be wrong though..???
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What about the dimple,nimble or whatever one calls it in the top of the 12 air box,If you use the plex glass, or plate steel or whatever for a top cover don`t you lose that swirl on top and does that matter I wonder???
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Xbolt12
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Awesome guys!

Odie, let us xb12 guys know how it works with the Drummer!

How much louder is the intake than with just the race filter, and did you remove the snorkle?

Also you may have already answered, but are you running the stock 12 ECM and any sign of more pinging/knocking than before?

I think you are going to want a steering damper when you get done as that front is going to be light a lot of the time : )

I'll post up picts of my damper from Kosco when it arrives and I mount it up.


xbolt12
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xbolt12 intake is alot noticable louder after you twist the throtle any more than a hair ,if you JUST twist it abit not much,but once your on it its alot louder,,:-)
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Odie
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hogs, if you just sealed up the bottom of the hole in the frame you could still leave the intake scoop to take air to the rear cylinder. It may even get more air afterwards. I don't think water is a problem with this set-up. Tatsu has a good idea- Nitrous!!!

Xbolt12- I am running the stock filter right now but will switch to K&N soon. Stock ECM also for now. I did remove the snorkel. It is a good bit louder than before with the holes drilled in the box. I suspect it would be slightly louder with the set-up Darthane was using. It sounds good though. Like Hogs said, I do feel there is a decent bit more power but haven't had a chance to really get on it. Maybe tomorrow!! BTW- no pinging.
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Tatsu
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can u guys point me to the link... for the size of the holes and location... thanks!
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah just check up above
archive august 7 i think check em all :-)
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

btw I drilled 43--> 3/4 inch holes for the most part same as the pics within..
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Xbolt12
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Odie,

Thanks for the info!

Now if we could just get someone to do a before and after dyno on the 12.......


xbolt12
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyno /Dyno seat of the pants,Throtle responsed/ and Sound is my Dyno :-)
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Xbolt12
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I too am dyno impaired (lack of funds : )

xbolt12
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wd. think far as any hp.1,2,3 its not alot if that, ,but then again who knows , but response is there, and i like the sound its coollllllllllllll
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Spyder12s
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chopped mine up today will see how it is tomorrow, cut a lot out but still attaches and holds well..so we'll see

XB12s, D&D, K&N, stock ecm
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Odie
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 05:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wanted to dyno it before I did anything to it but just don't have the time. I am going to after a few more months and my schedule lightens up a bit. Accurate Engineering has one in Dothan. They rebuilt my shovelhead motor in my wideglide and dynoed it three times now. $45 an hour for dyno time. Pretty good deal I think.
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Opto
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trench, for you and others running stock ecm's on 12's and have need to throw the servo motor this is what I've been running for months. Do this at your own risk. For educational purposes only...
910R means a quarter-watt 910 ohm resistor. This circuit has not been approved by anyone.

cct
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Lpowel02
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well, I just got out the dremel drill and cut large sections out of the "walls" and top of my inner airbox, basically in the same places where others have drilled holes. I did it first on my old 9 box to test and structurally it seems fine. It still has all the attachment points/clips and is very secure. I'll do the final version on my 12 box and see how it works.
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

on irons site they have a 9 and 12 part#'s
whats the difference?
the 12 said B/O
they have the 9 in stock?
I need one. somebody take my money.
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Lpowel02
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if you mean difference between the 9 and 12 inner airboxes...the 12 airbox has a cone molded into it to assist flow just above the velocity stack...the 9 does not...a 12 airbox on a 9 is an easy cheap gain of a couple hp
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I meant the diff between the FAST system..
there is a part # for the 9 and 12. maybe something to do with the muffler actuator
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Black9
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Probably throttlebody bore difference, for the filter..
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For the V-Stack...
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmm, and if the TB was getting bored out at a later time? crap
put the 12 tb on now?
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Trenchtractor
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Opto, just what I was after... Should have the parts at work... Electronics w'shop... ; )
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

put the 12 tb on now?

It may not hurt, increase intake air flow with the exhaust you have may match. Your limiting factor would then be your heads. I think.
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Lpowel02
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

uh...woops...misunderstood the ques...
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Misato
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am going to do the heads and a 1050kit soon if someone emails me back, I dont know why people bore the 9 TB, seems like the 12 is bigger and would work. unless its cheaper to bore the 9? but in either case I'd need the FAST for the 12? or have it matched?

anyone order from iron machine before?
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