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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

im just curious cuz it bewilders me why does so many people want to mess up the agressive looks of the xb with big plastic sadelbags i mean heck u can get soft ones and u can use a back pack but let my know ur opions as to why so many want such a thing?
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Whosyodaddy
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not a big saddlebag fan - on any bike. But it would be nice to have removable hard bags on an XB for those times you want to do a weekend ride. However, I would also want totally removable mounting hardware as well. In other words, when not touring, I want the totally stock look.

WYD
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

maybe that would be better than the s2/3t's cuz i think they look ugly with the bags on them yet if u take them off the got that rediculous looking bar on it so eather way those got kinda srewed on the the design but thats just my opinion and ther like a** holes every one has one cuz me personally i like the back pack idea
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Whosyodaddy
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is there a totally removable bag system available for the 12S? DaveS, any ideas?

WYD
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ive seen removable soft bags for the r's the bike i almost bought before i got mine had a pair on it but i dont know if they woud fit on the s's
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Coldwthrrider
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm working on a totally removable hard bag system for my 9R. I'm close to finished....I'll post detailed pics when it's done. Basically it will be two Givi hardbags that will be quick release and lockable when mounted. I had soft saddle bags for my old bike (still have them) and they just don't cut it. They're floppy and not secure and not waterproof. I want to be able to go somewhere and lock my jacket, helmet, other gear on the bike. That's aside from the ability to actually carry stuff so I can go somewhere and do something!

The brackets I made use the passenger peg mounts....and one more mounting point TBD. Technically there will only be 5 bolts to remove to take the rack system off and be back to stock, it was intended to be "quick release". The problem is that the mounting points are on the frame....and I don't want to wear out the threads on the frame by taking the rack on and off too many times. Plus due to the swingarm clearance it actually takes some time to fiddle with a hex wrench because you can't fit a socket in there. I'll see how ugly it really is once I get it painted to match the bike (currently raw aluminum and chrome!) but then I'm more about functionality that aesthetics anyway.

Here's a preview... I hope to have it complete in a week or so.
preview

Each one can hold two helmets!
helmet
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Tim
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cold,
I like your idea. How's it going to affect your lean angle? Looks like the bags need to be mounted higher.
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Barkandbite
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don:

I commute 50 miles to work each day (one way) and when I'm done, I've got 20+ pounds of stuff to commute home with. That sort of weight @ highway speeds puts a lot of strain on my neck/back and it's just not fun to ride.

I use the small Buell soft saddles now, and that's good enough to put gloves, earplugs, wallet, phone, etc. But I, too, would love to lock my jacket, helmet, etc. up when stopping over and carry stuff to/from home each day.

I dig Eric's ideas and wish it was available commercially (hint, hint...)

BTW, I get all sorts of positive comments from Japanese sport bike riders about how they dig the saddles and wish they had them...

Chris
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Coldwthrrider
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's the prelim mounting...but the brackets had potential interference with the rear swingarm when the suspension compressed. I raised it up and back a little using the same brackets and I'll see how it goes, I'm still in prototype stage! I haven't tested it by leaning the bike over while still, but I think it should be pretty good actually.

We'll see about making more when they're done, unfortunately I'm using parts that have been discontinued by Givi!
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Krassh
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use a backpack to carry everything, Laptop, external hard drives, cd cases. and I adjust the straps on the backpack so the seat takes all the weight. Though I am thinking of getting one of these if it is easy to take off and on.
Bag
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Krassh
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or this looks like it would go on and off easy.

bags
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i hope i didnt offend any one i didnt intend on it and besides look some one is working on an answer for yall i was just curious as to ur thinking i know before i came to iraq i was carring my stuff to work with me also but i just used a back pack and my helmet bag and brought it in to the office with me (yes im in the army and work in an office but i still carry an m16) but if you like the bags and some one omes out with them (hint hint cold and mr. buell) then go for it i just personally think it takes awayfrom the look of the bike but im just a 21 year old kid so i think differntly sometimes then the rest of the riders here

DJ
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Curtyd
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want hard bag so the 9MM can go in locked in a case in a hardbag. Even my Concealed Weapons Instructor agreed with me when I told him about my cross state and cross country jaunts. I have been in some very isolated parts riding on some very flashy new bikes. I do need to renew my current license, WHOOPS, there goes my tree-hugging liberal image. I am actually for Gun Control, but until they get a few million of them off the street, I'd rather be safe. There is a terrible story of two women hiking the Appalachian Trail with their big dog, that still got murdered. It is a dangerous world out there..
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well curtyd u could always mount u a holster on the side (that would look really cool)
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Curtyd
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

COPS really hate when they see you with a holster and pistol, and everyone including the store owners starts getting real nervous. In some places it may be legal, but it just seems to raise too many questions. I do remember an isolated campground in Calif, where they left their gates open at nite. Never seen that before, well after about 12 AM when the ranger goes off duty, the local yahoos pull into the parking lot of the campground with the intent to party "all nite long". After about 3AM, one unnamed moto-tourist, hung a "dog leg" out of the front of his drawers on his way to the restroom. Stopped off at the partying to ask politely if they were going to be at it much longer. They packed up about a half hour later, was it something he said?
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Josh_
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Krassh, I just sold a set of those on eBay. They worked fine and went on/off easy, but they're not lockable or waterproof.

Sport Touring is moderate protection from the elements plus storage space on a sport-ish bike. So a nice windshield (preferable movable), glove box, integrated removable hard bags, long range capabilities (5+ gal) plus great handling, brakes and lots of power are what you want for sport touring.

and my FJR should be here in 6 weeks or so
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Leeaw
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Curtyd,

Do you have any idea as to crossing state lines carrying a concealed weapon? I recently joined my local corrections and have a concealed permit for a 9mm on my badge in NY.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So long as you dont have the gun loaded & its in a case & not on your person, then I believe there is no problem. I know I have taken my 9mm & my .22 on a few of my longer trips. Plus what if you just wanted to go to the shooting range for the day? You have to get the gun there someway.

I think there is a big difference between "carrying" & merely hauling it in your saddlebags.

PS..when I go to Canada I never take one because I am paranoid about getting stopped & searched by the border patrol.
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Curtyd
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it's more gun safety than any other reason, why I don't want to put it in a softbag that I leave on the bike. Anyone could get a hold of it and then who knows waht. Maybe a locked case in a shoulder bag I always carry would work, but there ar places you can't carry it into in most jurisdictions. Bars, schools, sporting events. I am looking at putting a Pelican case on as a top case or 2 as saddlebags. Pretty indestructible, those.
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José_quiñones
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What Chris and Josh said, plus carry a passenger comfortably.

Sport Touring bikes are in a word, Practical. The S2/S3 were the Practical Buells of old. None of the current Buells are.

edited by josé_quiñones on July 18, 2004
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hehehehe.....tell me you are not at the correction facility on Woods Road in Valhalla.

Utoh...


: )
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Curtyd
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Better yet at the Orange Co Jail this year some reserve deputy/CO left his pistol in the glove compartment of a Co. truck they use for maintenance work. Those are always left open and trustees routinely are in them rummaging around.

I forgot that, along with bars, etc., NEVER take the 9MM to jail visits, courtrooms are another bad place to get forgetful.
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Odie
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Leeaw, my Alabama concealed carry permit will take me all the way up the eastern seaboard and all the way to new mexico..........reciprocity...
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Krassh
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Josh good choice on the FJR, I have Yamaha GTS1000 along with my Buell and an Electra Glide. I am leaning toward the hard luggage that looks like it mounts on a sissy bar type system that looks like it would come off and on easy. I would think something like that would be lockable. My GTS or Electra Glide is my first choice for a long range jaunt, I would like the luggage on the Buell to make it easier for me to haul stuff for work not so much for pleasure rides. I definitely cannot bitch about my job, I basically ride around on my bikes all day fixing computers. Oh and they pay me mileage. If I ever find a FJ1200 in great condition for a good price I will snatch it up.

Pic of the GTS with HArd Luggage.
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is a wild front swing arm. I've never seen that before.
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Krassh
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks it was James Parker designed the RADD system in 1983, spent a few years refining it and persuaded Yamaha to use it on a production bike. Yamaha only brought the bike to States for 1993 and 1994. It was sold in Europe through 1998. It did not sell well and was targeted at a very narrow audience (Sport Touring), it was also priced high (12,999.00) in 1993. I picked mine up for 7,500.00 out the door in 1995. It just had 600 miles on it from shop guys riding it. 1993 and it had fuel injection, anti-lock brakes and a catalytic converter. The most reliable bike I have every owned.
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Krassh
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The other side.

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Firebolt020283
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it might as well be a gold wing though i like the front ened thats neat !!!!!!!!
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Josh - please let me know what you think of the FJR when you get it. I'm about 99% sure that one will be my next bike. Need something that can comfortably carry me and the missus for long rides. I saw one here when I was in Tokyo and while it's big for my tastes (necessarily, of course) it does look like a really nice bike. I'm interested in what someone who's ridden the newer model Buells thinks of it.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To me Sport Touring = away for one night or more, sometimes with passenger, need to carry a little bit of gear, but not ready for a GoldWing just yet... My old GSXR made a great Sport Tourer

Krassh - what are your thoughts with laptops and hard-drives on bikes? I always carry my laptop in a backpack, thinking that it isolates it a little bit from vibration and bumps, but I'd love to get the weight off my back and use a seat bag or rack/bag like the pic you showed above... Do you think the vibration/bumps do any damage, or am I being overly cautious?
cheers,
lemonchili

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