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Johncr250
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was talking to my dealer today about installing a TFI Box or PCIII on my XB12 to remapp the A/F ratio after just installing some performace mods.

They told me the new Race ECM`s from Buell are now fully programmable and they have the software from Buell to make adjustments to peform load tests on their dyno.

Has anyone else heard of this? They said Buell just released this a couple of weeks ago.



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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Haven't heard that, but you can bet the farm I'll be finding out tomorrow!

Dave
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not as big of news as the larger axles: D
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Farm has been bet Dave... Don't fail me now : ).

John... Are you sure he wasn't talking about the "RACE ECM" (that racers get) as opposed to the race ecm?
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Larger Axles???

I'll bite... How large Dyna?
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was just talking to a factory guy today about ECMs and he didn't mention anything. He would know how interested I would be in this info.

Dave
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe they just decided to sell the real race ecm to us?
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dont recall how big..or if the size was even mentioned. A certain certain someone who works at a certain certain dealership somewhere in the Appleton area has the paper with the details on the big axle news: D
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Fullpower
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how big can you make an axle and still fit it inside a wheel bearing?
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have seen some damn big wheelbearings FP...course I worked at a Napa whose major customers where the freightlines...
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Billy lanes hub less bike is really just a bike with a huge hollow axle, at least thats how he described it.
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Obviously... I'm wondering how much more unsprung weight could be shaved by doing that. If any.
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave, check your PMs.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has there been a problem with axles breaking? Or is it the chance to use better wheelbearings that would cause the switch?
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

reads the anony post above and wonders if he needs to put money aside for a new ECM...
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

reads the anony post above and wonders if he needs to put money aside for a new ECM...

Or maybe he's gonna get scolded for the axle news??
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

eeeps
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, I should've known you wouldn't keep it under your hat Dyna.

I also had the new 05 pricing sitting there!

Dave
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well lets hear some pricing then????
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Right after the dealer meeting.

Dave
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Dave you brought it up.
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Misato
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

buell or h-d
the big sportster axle? yippe.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yea, that axle news was just too big to hold in any longer

Dana..you are gonna be shocked at the new pricing.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

??????????????????
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Round and round and round she goes...
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Opto
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I ain't heard of anyone breaking axles yet, but it looks like the Motec M4 could replace the XB race ecm holus bolus and do a you-beaut job of it.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

(this could get messy and ugly real fast)
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Johncr250
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They just said the Race ECM was programmable through software now. I just wanted to see if anyone else has heard of this or are they just BSing me.

M1
I think the Race ECM that is available to the Race Teams has external adjustments.
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BSing you Johncr250.
The "Race team ECM" is programmed with a laptop and software.

The race ecms we get will still not be programmable by the dealer or owner. There are other details but not really important to the end user so I won't go into that.

Dave
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Lpowel02
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so if we get to hear the axle/pricing news (and more??) after the dealer mtng....when is the dealer mtng?
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