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Evilgumby
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seen this 2010 yellow xb12r for $10,000 on craiglist is it worth what the seller is asking for it. I wanted one for years and could not find one in this condition, in last year of looking.

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/mcy/2138020724.html
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Zooski
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

10 k seems a little steep. I got mine with less then 5 k Miles for 6.5 k summer of this year!
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07xb12ss
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/2105901670.ht ml

i just saved you $3,000.
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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$10k would be a fair price, for this bike... if Buell was still in business.
I would not buy this bike today for that price, nor would I finance the purchase either.
If you don't have 10k cash to purchase it; wait.

Save the contact info, contact the seller at the end of the month. When you do, ask only if the bike has sold or not. If it's not sold, expect the seller to throw out another price... then game on.
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Evilgumby
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Contacted the seller in vegas, and they said they would not budge on the price.
Said they bought it new as a collectors investment and are selling it that way to another collector.

I'm sure that if you were to buy it and stuck it in a heated museum that it would appreciate with time, I know this is a rare model, but if I were to buy it and ride it I would lose a lot of money in the first few years of riding it.

I am also a little leery about getting into a buell, with the problem of getting parts for them. You see a lot of disgruntled 1125 riders, frustratingly selling their 1125's after having problems with service and getting parts for them.

I don't want to be placed in the same position after shelling out $6k - $8k for a new bike.
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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Considering that the guy probably bought it for $6500 during the fire sale, asking $10,000 is much too much unless they can prove it was one of the last XX off the line.
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Petebueller
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've owned 4 Laverdas one bought new the rest second hand with low km. All but the Jota 120 were pretty cheap.

I thought I got good prices when I sold them, but I couldn't afford to buy any of them back now.

I expect my Buells will go the same way but I don't plan on having to sell them. 2010 models had big improvements and they only had a short production run.
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Oysterman
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 03:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What were the differences between the 09 & the 10s? I've only been able to locate a few 2010s & would really like to know if they're worth the extra distance I'd have to go to get 1.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are two main improvements I know of: the 010's have an improved rear wheel with three (vs. 2) larger wheel bearings and external seals. They also have upgraded fuel injection with separate O2 sensors for the front and rear cylinders.

These are definitely significant improvements, but I wouldn't pay a huge premium over a ~09 model just to get them.
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Delta_one
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Said they bought it new as a collectors investment and are selling it that way to another collector.




I am calling BS on that

what collector buys a bike installs a steering damper and puts 200 miles on it?

I think it either wasn't for them or it scared them and now they are trying to make a mint off of it.

lots of other cheap clean Buell's to be had if you want a collector, and collectors know this.

like the one above in Dallas with the lightning exhaust on it

(Message edited by delta_one on January 02, 2011)
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Court
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>There were very few yellow 2010 xb12r made before buell went out of bussiness and this is one of the rarest buell models ever made.

Hogwash

It was neither intended to be, sold as or will likely ever be a "collectors" anything.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the way . . if you are a collector I have a showroom condition 1952 Cushman 711 Highlander . . one of nine made with the rare dual seal option. Or if you want rarer I've got a pal with 2 Brittens, he may part with one.
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Luv2spd
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think $8,000-$10,000 is a fair price for that Firebolt. It is the latest generation and extremely rare bike. This latest Firebolt has a lot of improved parts over previous models and should be the most reliable.
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Arby
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Must weight in. I bought a 2010 XB12Scg and I did buy it knowing that the value of the bike would be maintained because of the limited #'s of these bikes and the price (bought after the fire sale). There are a few new bikes left you can buy for much less than $10k, but soon you will have to pay what the seller want's because "they ain't makin any more" It's like waterfront property. What's out there is all that's left! Where can you buy an American built sport bike for less than $10K?
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Petebueller
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd take the 2010 over other years. If you find other 2010s cheaper then that is the way to go.

A friend just Emailed to ask what I thought of this one to replace a Firebolt that was written off by a car a couple of weeks ago.

http://motorcycles-for-sale.com.au/display_listing /16190/2010_BUELL_XB_12_R_Firebolt.html

It is about $4,000 more than you'd pay for a 2009 Firebolt here and he could buy a 2010 1125 cheaper. If he wants a 2010 Firebolt without having to wait for a "bargain" he may have to pay this sort of price.

I actually know the guy selling it. He got the white plastics from me. He's got a Uly and a Lightning and he's in no hurry to sell the Firebolt. If he could get Helibars for it he'd keep it.
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Evilgumby
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So it would seem that the 2010 xb12r is very rare and probably the best to own.

I remember looking for one of the 2010 xb12r's in at the begining of the sell off and there were only about 20 listed thru out the USA at dealers and they were quickly gone.

Since new dealer models usually came in late august and september, I would think that probably less than 500 2010 xb12r's were ever produced making it very rare.
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Macbuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd run away from that seller. He's full of shit. Brand new XB12's were going out the door for about $6K when Buell was shut down. And now he wants to sell it you for $10K. I'm sure you can find a better deal.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>So it would seem that the 2010 xb12r is very rare and probably the best to own.

If someone is fool enough to pay that . . . I'm sure he'll be happy to sell it.

You could buy a 2008 for a fraction and have a ridiculously good time.

Anyone thinking a Buell will be a collector item needs to take a look at what the REALLY (as in genuinely limited quantities) RS-1200's are selling for.

Pure silliness.

But it . . .ride it and enjoy it.

You want to invest . . . I recommend Erte' or Pal.
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Evilgumby
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, So let me get this straight, using your train of thought, any mass produced vehicle will never be worth more than its original sticker price.

If this is so then why are old corvettes and camaros' selling for between $60-$100k at barret jackson auctions.

So I guess in your world there are no $10k 1970 triumph bonnievilles or crated 1983 bonnie specials that recently sold for $38k at auction or XR1000s' or xlcrs' sell for over $10k right now is very good used condition.

The most valuable cars and bikes are usually the first and last year of production, these are known facts
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Court, So let me get this straight, using your train of thought, any mass produced vehicle will never be worth more than its original sticker price.




You pulled that out your ass. It's not the least bit similar to what I said.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the way . . . . sitting here next to my desk is one of the most produced 2 wheel vehicles ever made and it's worth 20X what is sold for new.
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Xbgeorge
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
You can't just say "sitting here next to my desk is one of the most produced 2 wheel vehicles ever made and it's worth 20X what is sold for new" then not tell us what it is. That is just not right.

As far as the XB being a collectors item, I have my doubts. Most collector items, involving motor driven vehicles, are usually cutting edge or were the top performing machines in their class. Although the XB's frame and wheels were innovative and very cool design features, the bike was never a top performer (except for the one article about it being the best cornering bike). The XB wasn't even the most technical or best performing of the Buells. With that said, I'm glad that my triple tree says 25th Anniversary.
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that the XB, especially the first 2003 bikes will someday be collectable. There were a lot of them made and they are are all pretty much the same. Mass produced vehicles that become collectable do so after decades have reduce the numbers of available ones or they were very limited build "specials" in the first place. It is gonna take 20 more years before any XB is worth much money.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I should add that the two most profitable motorcycles I ever sold were when I sold my 1977 XLCR Cafe Racer and my 1983 XR-1000.

A fellow from the Middle East, Sadat Becal saw them on display in Vegas. He called me and asked "how much for the motorcycles?".

I told him "they are not for sale".

He replied "Money is no object".

I replied . . . "all we need to do is arrange delivery".

First time in my life I'd ever been more scared of a Samsonite briefcase full of cash than a check.

Oddest part was that I offered him all the documentation, the original carbs, collection of magazine articles about my collection and the whole kaboodle. He didn't even take the spare keys.

Loaded them in a 22' Budget van and was gone.

Both GREAT bikes that I rode A LOT.
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Jens
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>Anyone thinking a Buell will be a collector item needs to take a look at what the REALLY (as in genuinely limited quantities) RS-1200's are selling for.<<

As an 91 RSS owner, I can tell you it hurts. Here in Europe going limited bikes like that far down from 10.000, Last sale was around 5.000 Euro...

An very good condition 98 S1 (TS Heads) with all Buell racestuff including all stock parts in first paint (no bubbles under the stickers of the fueltank) for 5.000 too...}
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Court
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I paid about $18,000 for my first Buell and then put about another $7,000 in it . . it was a ball.

I ride motorcycles for fun . . . I invest for profit. No regrets on either account.

I may be sitting on one of the most valuable, in terms of collectability, Buells. . but it is not, and won't be, for sale.
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatcha got there Court?? One of the 3 RW's ; )
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Skinstains
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah come on Court you can't leave all of us wonderin'! Or shouldn't at least.
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Evilgumby
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Court,can you show us the xlcr, xr1000, rs-1200 or the brief case of cash you recieved.

(Message edited by evilgumby on January 10, 2011)
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of the most-produced... and worth much more.

I'm betting Honda:

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