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Geforce
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man, that bike and pipe sure do look and sound good!
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Short audio test, playing with the camera to get it as accurate as I can. It's still not perfect, but it's getting closer.

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Kdogshirow
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds Mean !
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+2 for a slightly louder than stock, stainless muffler. I'd probably take two!
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D_adams
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I might do a magnaflow modded muffler later if you guys want something along that line. The longest oval custom shells I can get are only 12" long, so the magnaflow (at 14" long) option will probably be quieter. I will have to have the shells custom rolled to either 7" or 7.5" wide, which means I may have to pay for setup and get a minimum of 10-20 done at a time.
I don't mind doing it either way. I originally intended to try the magnaflow on the 1125, but it just wouldn't look right on it with that long of a muffler.
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Fast1075
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

XB Magnaflow muffler setup...sounds awesome, very deep tone.


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Percyco
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes...slightly louder than stock and you will get my order ! Drummer, Spec Ops etc are all nice but just too loud for me. Look at the prices used banged up Buell race mufflers bring on Ebay. The Buell race pipe has a very nice sound without rattling windows or your brains. Get close to that and you'll have a winner.
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D_adams
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Percyco -- I'll build one next week and see if I can get some video and possibly another dyno run to get some performance numbers from it. Materials are on order, so it's just a matter of time now.
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Thumper1203
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dean...I'm about to pull the trigger on a stainless exhaust for my 12scg(race pipe now). I like to run my chin fairing, and am not a big fan of the current brackets that are available...would you consider a fairing mount option!
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D_adams
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really hadn't planned on offering a bracket for this. All I've heard about any aftermarket ones is that they all break at some point. I'm not sure I can really do any better at that since the XB's vibrate like crazy as it is.

I'll look into it, but for right now, I don't have any real plans for brackets. I might make one custom set for Cory since he's been kind enough to loan me his wife's scoot, but beyond that, I dunno.
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Thumper1203
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got ya.. shucks... I'm hoping someone will come up with an affordable pipe like this with the mounts etc. Anyone know which exhaust this is? usa made?
XB exhaust w/chin brackets
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Kdogshirow
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a site where you can get the bulk materials to build your own pipe , if you can weld , that is . The parts are reasonably priced .

http://www.coneeng.com/mufflers.html

(Message edited by kdogshirow on January 04, 2011)
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Albert666
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sorry to hijack the thread but thumper1203 i make these
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Kdogshirow
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What do you charge for that one w/ the brackets Albert666 ?
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Thumper1203
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats a beauty! PM sent with questions, alan... dual outlet option?
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Arctic9r
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

does anyone just sell the brackets? if so please PM me with cost and shipping to 43085
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Terrys1980
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jardine ??
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Thumper1203
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Terry, I think Arctic9r means the brackets as we see them installed on Albert666's exhaust above... My question for you, Albert666(alan)... would you sell the ss brackets alone?
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Terrys1980
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From what I understand they just want some brackets to mount the chin fairing and the Jardine brackets will do just that. Quite possibly eliminating having to remove the chin fairing when you pull the exhaust.
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Albert666
Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i could do just the brackets although i'd have to leave them a little long so they could be cut to suit other mufflers
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D_adams
Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not 100% happy with the quality of the welds on one of the magnaflow 11148 mufflers I got today. I'm thinking they might have used a mig welder to do these.







What sucks about using these is lack of control over the welds. Lots of splatter on the shell and endcaps. It can be ground off and smoothed down, but it just makes for extra work.









Internal cores, they're just smashed together rather than blended. I guess this will need fixed before I do much else to them.





We shall see how it turns out this weekend I think.

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Thumper1203
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 03:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm..wow, I can see a few "man hours" involved bringing that example up to snuff.. just doesn't look "street rod, or other" quality out of the box to me..
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Fast1075
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 06:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The one I got was a tiny bit "twisted"...but you can't see that when it is mounted. The metal is 4XXX stainless (forgot exactly which varient).
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For Thumper1203 !
it,s a torque hammer muffler and not available anymore.

but here is a new model,
http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp? guid=YXHFSC&aid=2155&cid=110&s=&a=
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)









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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Kdogshirow
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That sounds nice , did you re-do the inside smashed baffle ?
Looks nice to .
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Kdogshirow
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much would you charge to build one of those ?
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Jonzin
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds really good.
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I smoothed down the insides so it will flow a little better, it looked a little rough in there. It's not a perfect knife edge, but it's a lot better than it was.
I still need to sort out the rear spacing, it's got a bit of a gap between the stock bracket and the muffler body. I'm also thinking this might be 409 stainless, I will have to call magnaflow to verify what it is. If it is 409, then I'd probably recommend roughing it up on the surface and shooting it with a coat of high temp black paint to cover all the rough welds and splatter they got all over it. If it's 304, then cleaning it and polishing it would be the best option.

I guess in it's current form, raw and somewhat rough, $425 + shipping. It didn't take all day, but it's not 100% finished just yet. I do have the mid-pipe sorted out pretty nicely and it will work with the other setup now. I also need to make a short bracket to weld onto the mid-pipe for support. It's almost ready to go though.

I will sell a few of these, I bought 2 for now just to play with and it turned out pretty decent so far. I prefer to do my own thing, but it costs a little more to do it. Materials costs are at least double what it is for building one of these. I know how I want to build it and it will be similar to this, but just a tad louder. I'm thinking for the full custom one, between $550-600 and it will definitely polish up very nicely. These magnaflow shells are pretty rough.

This one is probably the quietest one I've built yet. It's fairly mellow at idle in the garage, I haven't taken it out and the weather is probably going to take a turn for the worse here tonight.

One last thing, if I do the hand crafted oval shell, the performance gains will be pretty much identical to the first one I made with the 2 round shells. Figure a 9-10% gain in both hp and torque. I have no idea what the magnaflow pipe will show.

Edit to add some pics.
























(Message edited by d_adams on January 08, 2011)
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