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Cbig
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

went be bopping into my local harley only dealer and picked up a sportster filter for my xb12ss. No fit.

Any tips?

thanks

cb
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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ACDelco # PF1233
Amsoil SDF10
Bosch # 3311
Champion # C138
Fram # PH4967
HD # 63806-00Y
K&N # hp-1003/KN-177
Mighty # m4477
Napa # 1394
Mobil 1 # M1-103
Motorcraft # FL836
Penzoil # pz39
Purolator # L14476
STP # S4967
Valvoline # vo40
Wal-Mart Super Tech # ST4967
Wix # 51394




Although I wouldn't touch most of them.
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Ulynut
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Although I wouldn't touch most of them.
Why not?
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is a thread in the BB&D, many of these filters aren't the correct pressure rating for the XB motor. Also some of them (namely the Fram) have a bad reputation in the industry for poor filtration. That thread has lots of juicy info, I need to dig it up again : )
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Ulynut
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I should have read it before I put that Fram filter on my Uly.
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46champ
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1 Fram filter on your Uly isn't going to hurt anything.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I saw it the other day (bright orange stuck out like a sore thumb), but I know many people get touchy about oil and stuff like that. I wouldn't worry about it too much, swap it next time you do the service : )

About the pressures:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/485038.html?1249669343


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Nobuell Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 05:09 pm:

I would verify some of the filters on that list. I checked the specifications of some filters that I considered using from that list. I found that the bypass valve pressure setting is higher on a number of the listed filters. The Buell bypass should be 8-11 psi, many were greater than 14 psi. This is not a big deal on high pressure car systems but may be an issue on the low pressure Buell system.

Just be careful, as an example, the above listed Purolator is L14476. This car filter has a relief valve pressure of 14-18 psi. Much higher than the correct WIX filter. The Purolator motorcycle filter # ML16822 relief is 12-15 still higher.

I have always used a WIX filters because of their high quality and they publish specifications on all of their filters. I use a WIX Buell listed # 51394. It is the same as the NAPA 1394. I spoke with the WIX engineer and found that the WIX 51396 is identical but 0.5" longer. I will use it next time just to get a little extra oil and filter media area.

The bottom line is, I will not use a filter from any manufacturer that does not provide specific functional data. Saving a couple $ on a filter is not worth it to me.




Some more reading about filters here, they put two different types of Fram filters in the avoid category.

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilf ilters.html
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Greg_e
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The fram ones around me are all chrome, that makes certain that I won't be tempted to use them.
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Newxb12ss
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

K&P makes one to fit.
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