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1324
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hardly ever look to the internet for personal soul searching, but here goes. I'll try something new today.

Bought an 1125R last week due to the crazy deals. My plans were to keep my 05 XB12S indefinitely. However, after riding both bikes over the past week (440 miles on the R, 60 on the S), I'm not sure I can justify keeping the S in its current capacity. The R just feels so much better to me. Aside from the gas mileage and maintenance, the 1125 is everything I want in a bike (and then SOME).

So I'm torn. Sell the S? Based on today's values, not sure. I could always find a Uly or buy a track bike. Keep the S and convert it to track bike? Not ideal, but my 9 was fun on the track. Or, keep the S as-is for the sake of ownership. I need some convincing from those who have been in my shoes before...
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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good Lord no, don't sell now. If you're determined to part with it, give it a few years for the value to go back up. Just because you have it doesn't mean you HAVE to ride it. Store it away somewhere.

~SM
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1_mike
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 1125 can't measure up to the XB gas milage.

Use the XB for the high milage outings.

Mike
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I get 53mpg on my 09 1125CR. My 08 1125R isn't broken in enough to know for sure what it can do, but I predict 60mpg. But they do suck gas, so I use my 85mpg Blast for commuting duty.
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Wardamneagle
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep the XB. The S is a much more comfortable bike for taking any sort of long trip. I think that the Geometry and power also make it a great around town bike. Use the R whenever you wanna go fast and have a lot of fun.
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1324
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy, you get 53 mpg! Mine is still breaking in, but I'm in the 30's. Last tank was 32 actually. I didn't think I was that hard on it...Sheesh.

Oh I don't know. I'm leaning towards a track conversion. Every time I say I'm going to buy a track bike, I turn around and do something more sensible with the money. Maybe already owning a bike will make it easier...
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Geforce
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd keep it. Seller's remorse is ever so worse than buyer's remorse. That's why I hold on to my Grand National with all I've got.
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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL, I think MOST people on 1125's get in the 30's (from what little poking around I've done in that area of the forum). Froggy has a way of milking these bikes for all their worth. He's the only 2-wheeled hypermiler I've ever heard of.

~SM
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1324
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He's the only 2-wheeled hypermiler I've ever heard of.

ROFL. That was good.

Resume...
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Crackhead
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well how else do you expect the Blast to have the fuel range of the large tank XB bikes.

I can go 100 miles on 1.3 gallons. approx 77mpg. I want to try a long run fully tucked, feet on the passenger pegs and no backpack to see what mpg i get.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

171 miles before switching to the reserve was my best tank on the Blast. 240ish before the light on my XB Long, and 220ish on my CR. My 08 1125R got a dismal 160 miles other day. : (

Oh, and I know a guy on a Ninja 250 that gets well over 100mpg on it. There is a bunch of us hypermilers on Ecomodder.com
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dang, I was only getting about 50 mpg on my Blast...must have been something wrong with the throttle ; ) Haven't checked Jezebel yet...her throttle doesn't spend much time cracked more than a little.
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My XB9sx will never leave my stable. I made a last minute decision and dropped for an 1125R last night. My 9 is the bike that hooked me into the Buell family and for that it shall never leave my home or my heart. Its family and now has a new sibling.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't sell my 12S. Too much sentimental attachment.

Besides, 10 years from now it will be an even better conversation starter.
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Jraice
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 1125 is as nimble as your S? Thats surprises me.
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seller's remorse is ever so worse than buyer's remorse.

This is true
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1324
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nimble? Who said the 1125 was more nimble? Not me.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

The 1125 is as nimble as your S? Thats surprises me.




My 1125R and CR make my SS feel like a school bus.
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

at revs in the 4-10k range the Cr is as nimble as the SS the SS is more agile at slow speeds and off clutch, I like doing this

wieght feel even
top end CR
low end XB
ergos feel even
brakes CR
Clutch CR
tires same
rear vision XB

I honestly will tell you i could flip a cion and not have a bad day
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Xb1200rick
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought a CR a few months a go and had my xb12 for sale, but have decided to keep it for now even though I need the money. Riding the 2 bikes back to back , I don't see the firebolt getting picked for many rides but my son is 14 and maybe he will want to ride it someday. The only problem now is deciding on what I am going to do with the electraglide which seems to never leave the garage and I am too pissed at HD to be seen on it anyway.
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Frosty
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ill NEVER own a harley
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Mqracing
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Unless you need the money desperado... I say keep the XB and keep it intact.

The other day I bought a new 09 XB-12XT which I am going to keep and use as my "touring" rig...

the same dealer who I bought the XT from just called me last night to say he has a new 09 XB9-SX that has become available... so I made an offer on it.

Two different bikes... two different personae's. And for "sport" duty I have a
2004 Triumph Daytona 955i.

What I'm trying to say is that keep your 1125R for sport duty and your XB for other fun, short, day trips. Btwn the two you might have the best of both approaches.

And long term I would be more confident of parts availability for the XB than the 1125R. Which is what moved me away from considering an 1125 vis-a-vis the XB family buells.

If it's paid for... hang on to it. Right now would probably be the worst time to sell it anyway.
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Xb1200rick
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ill NEVER own a harley
I would like to sell it but since Harley sold off buell the value of the Harleys has gone down the drainGuess I will have to wait till Buell starts back up and see if the harley ever becomes worth anything
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Jraice
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XB maintenance is easily DIY, 1125 valve adjustments are not (for the average person).

With Buell being sold, which would you rather keep : p.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have you done a valve adjustment on a 1125? I will give you a hint, its easier than changing the plugs on a XB. Oh, and the service intervals are further apart than the XB, so you will get more riding time before tear downs. Not having a primary chain to adjust and change fluid on also is nice too.
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1324
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, I took the XB out to work the other day (85 mile round trip), and I decided to keep it. I still feel the 1125 is superior (except for MY gas mileage), but the XB is still a fantastic bike...especially if you don't ride it back to back with an 1125.

Not sure what capacity I'll keep it in. I'm torn between dedicated track bike and random usage. I'd like to have an XB for both duties, actually. No can do right now, however. I'm leaning toward track duty, though...
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Brandon_m
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you have room for it, I say keep it. It's nice having a spare. Different bike for different rides.
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Delta_one
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

darn I was gonna tell you to send it to me! Ill ride it for you and wont even send you a bill! lol
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1324
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Delta, if I become more charitable than I already am, you'll move to the top of my list, lol.
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Jraice
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd make the 1125R the track bike if it were me...

But let me ask, when you ride twisties what type of roads do you ride?

I know some Ducati riders that have a hypermotard and a street fighter. Basically an XB vs an 1125, air cooled twin, not much HP, great nimble handling vs liquid cooled rocket.

Street fighter is a fun go fast bike for smoother roads and less technical roads. For the goat trails, the bumpy and twisty ones, the hyper (or XB) is the prefered bike.
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1324
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My first thought was to use the 1125 on the track. However, I love riding it so much, I can't justify ONLY riding it on the track. It might be the kind of bike I bring to the track alongside my dedicated track bike to ride for a couple sessions every now and then. I love riding it so much, I need as much seat time as I can get.

What type of roads to I ride? Well, I live in NEPA and ride in PA and NNJ. Most of the roads are good, but we have our fair share of rougher farm roads. It's hard to compare apples to apples with these two bikes because of the different seating position and bars. The XB feels more nimble, but I know changing bars alone makes a HUGE difference. I've run several configurations.

Ideally...if I can swing it...I'd like to keep the 1125 for street and part time track duty. The XB for the track, and eventually a Uly for dedicated street. Don't know when that will happen, though. If I could find someone who wanted to sell me their Uly cheap or for trade, I'd go that route in a heartbeat. My wife likes that bike as a passenger.

On a side note, I'm completely surprised how comfy the 1125R really is. I've only put 586 miles on it so far, but I did about 3 hours today. For a sport bike, the position is great. Minimal fatigue and oddly enough - my knees hurt MORE on my XBS after fewer miles. I never would have predicted this.
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Delta_one
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think you have the right idea here... like everybody is saying; if you don't need to get rid of it don't. but the way I have my XB set up its more of a corner bike than anything much like an 1125R is set up. but I think the customization and personalization capabilities are more inherent in an XB than most other bikes put together. so hang on the the XB and go a little nuts making it truly your own.
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Jraice
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still don't fully understand the justification of using the XB as a track bike. The 1125R motor is much more track suited I would say, higher end power and lots of it. The XB is a street motor.

Now my XB12Ss was a hoot at the track but I would've appreciated a faster bike for sure... Also my Ss has a 2" longer wheelbase then your S, and while the short wheelbase is great for the street I think a more traditional (mine is just short of most Japanese 600's) geometry is better for the track where you are riding much harder... but what do I know... I have only ridden my bike at the track, never a Japanese bike etc.
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1324
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From the outside looking in, the 1125 would make more sense to run on the track. It really comes down to three things for me at this point:

1. As I said numerous times, I enjoy riding the 1125 more than the XB. I ride more on the street than I do on the track. I'd like to enjoy this bike, and that means riding it. I would like something fully dedicated to the track so I can eliminate a lot of the track prep you need to do in taking a street bike to the track. This includes tires, brake pads, suspension, etc.

2. I don't need the power of the 1125 on the track. In fact, having that much on tap will distract me. I've tracked XBs numerous times and like them. Track engine? Not really, but it holds its own with the right rider. YMMV.

3. If I track any bike, I'll need spare parts. Clearly the XB has a larger used parts market (and in most cases, cheaper new parts).

Again, I'll agree that the 1125 is more suited to the track than an XB. I have plenty of personal experiences ending in heartache to prove the point. But, I just prefer the 1125 over the XB on the street. Better wind protection, better headlights, better brakes (compared to my ZTL1 and shorter XB wheelbase), more room on the tail for luggage, etc. I'm just in love with the 1125 in a way I've never been with the XB. And trust me, this means a LOT for me to say this. I loved my XB9 up until I totaled it, and despite leaving the brand for a short time, I specifically bought another XB. I'd even go so far to say that I wasn't a fan of the 1125R until I rode by buddies for a significant amount of time on the street. Is it overkill for the street? You bet.

Of course, I'm still riding the XB here and there and haven't touched it to convert it, yet. I'm still contemplating...
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