| Author | Message | ||
     Hogs |
YEs 500 miles for sure.. up and down in the rev range and not idling around all is good I wd. say.... Key to this build I wd. say is the factory racing adjustable ecm you have, Perhaps the D/Link would do the same... 160 hp and 115 torque First I have heard in the last 4 or 5 years that put out this power on the street or even the TRack.... Will be VERY interesting how this rides after it gets loosen up somewhat... Hope ya keep posting on this.. NOW get out and RIDE put Da miles on it and get it Dyno Tomorrow night LoL  | ||
| Rsh |
Sounds like an incredible motor, XBRR performance that you built yourself by picking and choosing parts. How did you tune the race ECM, do you run race gas? It is a pain to get a XBRR to run at it's potential ( a lot of dyno time), yet you already have a bike that can beat the latest crop of big bore bikes from Japan. Like I said, incredible. | ||
| Caféelite |
You are correct there and if that time comes or I decide for some reason to post my current bike that I ride daily (weather permitting) on a public forum I will expect opinions of all kinds. When reading said replies I will try to do so in a open mind in an attempt to catch something I missed. Why else post in a community like this. Granted we all have our own taste which apparently I have discovered thinking yellow on a bike is universally hated is wrong but opinions will be given when threads like this are created. Granted my opinion on your color probably came off harsh and if so my bad. On another note if I did have your budget (doubt that will happen) and "I" built a bike like this that I was promoting as a track bike I would probably remove things like the reflectors, blinkers, belt guards. Like I said above it sounds like you have a lot of knowledge and money into the engine. I am sure its amazing and I wish I could hear it in person, let alone ride it. I just found some of the aesthetics of bike a bit odd and lacking flow. With so much with what is awesome put into the engine I think a lot was left to be desired in the look\flow of the bike I guess based off the other thread I should have known better that you wouldnt take to someone questioning something about your bike very well. | ||
| Jake318 |
No caff I said that in a joking mannor. I just get poed when someone impies im lying ( like anyone does or should) when the mods given give creedence to the statements ... You are just thinking about style ( subjectively ) buells arnt the easiest bikes to get parts for . This tail section wasnt my first choice and I might STILL change it if I can find a solo tail section like the stock unit but with a shorter seat for support so you dont slide back during acceleration . And if you drop the bike replacement carbon pieces dont need to be painted again .... One thing though Caff.. race bikes dont follow fashion .. function comes first the oilcooler/air scoop might not look all that great but works phenominal .. ergo its on the bike . what do you think people thought of the wings on an Indy car when it first came out ? | ||
| Jake318 |
Caff BTW yes the lights will come off but in the mean time the public roads are my test track | ||
| Jake318 |
RSH thank you but I can beat the latest crop of jap ;literbikes when they are stock comming off the corners but they can overtake eventually at roughly a 1/2 mile ....RSH-Hog ... The Idea is this ... instead of trying to make the ancient HD motor rev higher which it was obviously never designed for with 45 degree v twin ( lousey for balance the whole top end is going up then down it just implodes ) WHY not make the most HP and TORQUE within the 6800 RPM redline as possible like a drag race/flattrack set up. this way you can use the torque advantage to drag race out of the corners hoping to get to the next corner before the high reving 4cyl. engines (with half the torque but more HP ) get legs under them and use thier HP advantage . You cant beat the high tech I-4 and now V-4 cyl bikes at thier own game . Just thought we could change the perameters of the game a little lol .. doing it differently is what makes it fun Jake | ||
| Jake318 |
Hog your going to shoot me lol. i JUST had the bike out .Night rides are about theonly time the roads are clear around here ... the bike is running so cool i was thinking about calling dan at NRHS when he gets back from Bonnieville . To see if i could shave the heads and bump the compression ratio to 12:1 . Yes i have alot of torque over the jap bikes but I need some more top end . For that you need HP . i just dont know if shaving the head will corrupt the squish band on Dans Stage 3 head porting or would it be better to go and buy pistons . patience isnt in my genes lol. I dont want to wait in line at the gates of heaven lol | ||
| Jake318 |
whoa Hog to keep everything strait i was comparing to dans 88 ci build that was at the crank ( why and how i have no idea 0 in fact i just realised a screw up dans build was 160 hp and 130torque at the crank the 115 torque was at the rear wheel hp at the rear wheel was 140 Sound more like it Hog . sory , ideas are bouncing through my head . could I put a second oil cooler in FRONT of the other left side cooler? the dam scoop is big enough AND being vertical it wouldnt stop the back cylinder air flow on the left also !! | ||
| Blake |
If the squish is set properly then no, you won't want to be shaving anything from the heads. If it is a little on the roomy side, more than 0.030, you might can get away with a little shaving, but it depends on how much room you have. Did you measure the squish when you assembled it? | ||
| Jake318 |
Blake no I didnt . actually I just come up with the engineering ideas now .( have spine degeneration constant pain ) the Last Build i did was to teach my son some mechanics . A FULL engine hop up . soup to nuts , custom cams , bored , stroked, maxiumum sized titanium valves, springs , headwork ect with stratosferic compression all on a mail order chinese scooter lol. | ||
| Jake318 |
For learning purposes the crap chinese GY6 engine is the perfect foil . Its VERY basic yet because the chinese performance parts are so screwed up sizing wise ( and otherwise , metalurgy is non exsistant they are old beer cans from 70s lol) You have to think outside the box and use your own head to figure out solutions . | ||
| Boltrider |
Cafe - I think the blinkers and such are still on because he is breaking it in on the street. He probably doesn't want to chance a ticket by removing them until racing begins. Jake I think your bike looks good. The tail is kinda weird, but it's functional so I can't knock it. Yellow body work doesn't bother me either. In fact, I think the 2010 Bolt with the yellow body and blacked-out motor looks pretty damn good. | ||
| Jake318 |
ironically Al at american sportbike sent me an e-mail for a place that does custom seats for buells. This will allow me to have support so the acceleration doesnt pull me backwards( its now that ill fly off back , but it is tiring , the bike pulls VERY hard ) threfore im doing the whole bike over in carbon fiber with regular tail section(but solo) red Keiti tank protector (large one piece so jaket zipper doesnt scratch ) and red buell logos . the airbox cover will now have duel air inlets ,one on each side corner of tank (im sure youve seen them) Also a big reason for the change is with the regular style tail section you can access the shock, battery ect . To do adjustments on the penske shock It has 16 settings . Christ with the uptail adjusting the shock would take so long we would miss the race lol. Like ive said before its all about function in this case . jake | ||
| Jake318 |
Guys if you want to see something fast and good looking am working on a 98 road king classic that has the 2200cc jims HD motor . 675 lift cams roller rockers 50mm mikuni carb . Two tone .. Luxury red with off white cream accent with gold pinstripe , white walls chromed front end, brakes ect . Looks very classy . the custom paint shop wants to use it as his showpiece . not over the top more like Road king CVO with massive displacement lol. jake | ||
| Jake318 |
HOGS You are correct the toughest part of this is the adjustable ECM. it might give you better results but you need a knowlageable Tuner to get out the best in it . ( And im NOT that guy , im old school carburetors ) | ||
| Jake318 |
RSH the tuning was done by lancaster harley davidson . They have race team of cory texter who is now 3rd in AMA dirttrack series ( single or twin ? im not sure ) A guy named Brandon busted his ass getting it correct . He is a nice guy and a Fellow bueller so i gave him my old top end since he has a XB9 which will be upgraded to a XB12 the engine had only 600-700 miles on it so he should get a long life from the upgrade | ||
| Blake |
Jake, Sounds like you'll need to measure the squish. I've always figured a creative lazy man should be able to figure a way to do that via the spark plug hole using the 0.06" dia solder wire. Worst case, it doesn't work and you have to remove the heads and do it the laborious way. I'm really surprised that you didn't measure it when assembling the engine. | ||
| Jake318 |
Blake look a couple of posts up Unfortunatly i cant do the builds myself anymore . Due to a degerative bone disease I am in constant pain . have 4-6 impinged nerves in middle and lower spine 9 along wiht a racing injury where I broke a vertibre Coupled with blown discs of course . I need pain killers just to get out of bed and move around .... long story short , I have to have other do the wrenching now . I used to be a bodybuilder and boxer till 2007 but everything just caught up to me . | ||
| Swordsman |
Pretty slick! Not a huge fan of the tail, but that's just me. I've been wanting that same oil cooler/scoop for my Ss for a long time. I don't need it, I just think it's unusual, and I dig the unusual (and it'll look freakin' BIZARRE on an S model! LOL). ~SM | ||
| Jake318 |
Sword Im going back to the stock style tail section but without the passenger seat thats fliped over in tail . it will just be solo . the yellow will be gone all parts carbon fiber , red Buell emblems . My son and I just got back from the Millville race . Thinking it was just anouther race fan we where shooting the breeze with Eslick telling him we wished the girl that was guarding the VIP tower was fat and ugly so we could flirt with her and get access to the top for a good race view. He thought that was hilarious . Also said we have followed Buells progress when he started thee original RW750 project . Later he came up to us with this leathers on and it struck us it was him ( well we thouht he looked familiar but didnt put it together ) he said good luck with next years race team and to stop by later . His parents should be proud that he turned out to be a very nice person. | ||
| Jake318 |
The carbon fiber bodywork is in the mail and Im getting a Backup XB12R for the track in case of a motor failer . the second bike will be a 88ci kit motor with stroker crank(Carrillo rods) bringing displacement to 1684cc in unlimited class. Lets just push the envelope of the old tractor motor lol. jake | ||
| Jake318 |
PS lets not forget going to 729 redshift cams. YES I know it will probably grenade but hell thats racing and at least a old tech Buell will be one of the fastest bike out on the track for a little while at least lol. Jake | ||
| Paint_shaker |
Jake, Nice speaking with you on the phone the other day. While I do understand engines, engine internal numbers are kinda greek to be (clearances, cams #s, etc.). I hope you get that thing down to Daytona. Would love to see it run, perhaps give it a run! | ||
| Jake318 |
Paint you might be in luck . Im thinking of getting all my parts together for the entire bike , then loading it on a train to florida for Cyclerama to do the build . Right now im looking for an 06-07 XB12R for second team bike . I would go with the 08 but the only real differance is the crank is a bit thicker and being im doing a stroker crank with lightweight Carillo con rods why spend the extra $ I can meet you down thier if you like jake | ||
| Beachbuell |
Not my cup o tea. | ||
| Bigblockbruce |
Awesome bike, Jake! I know you're changing it, but unlike some of the other comments, I like the way it looks now, yellow and all! Very purposeful. All the best to ya. Bruce | ||
| New12r |
Paint, if you ride it you have to let me in your head while doing it. A boy can dream! | ||
| Jake318 |
thanks bigblock I just put the stock tail section back on the uptail wasnt for looks ( didnt care for it myself ) it was for funtion ( held you i place instead of flying backlwards ) but it was a mistake . the uptail raises you up 3 inches and forward . it made the bike a little unstable . Anyone with a yellow Buell want an uptail cheap? lol | ||
| Jake318 |
Bougth 2nd XB12 forebolt this weekend a 2006 with 5k on it 4000$(red ) this time going with 88 kit+ stroker crank giving it 1684cc 12.:1 compression .721 c lift cams . just think of it a NASCAR motor with 2 cylinders sliced off . jake | ||
| Jake318 |
Bought 2nd XB12 firebolt this weekend a 2006 with 5k on it 4000$(red ) this time going with 88 kit+ stroker crank giving it 1684cc 12.:1 compression .721 c lift cams . just think of it a NASCAR motor with 2 cylinders sliced off . jake |
