| Author | Message | ||
     Roysbuell |
The initial shock is gone and I am no longer raging mad at Erik for crushing the Blast instead of a simple discontinuation. I am planning on buying a Lightning. As much as I would like a new one since the closest Buell dealer is 130 miles away I think it would be too much of a hassle to deal with simple warranty issues. So I have decided to go the used bike route. I will be posting in the Wanted section, so if anyone has or knows of a 08 or newer Lightning XB12SCG please let me know. Since I first bought my Blast this site has been great and if I have to give my hard earned money to someone I would like to give it to someone from this site or one of our sponsors. | ||
| Zane |
Now that the initial shock is gone I have a question: Does anyone have any HARD EVIDENCE about what is coming next? It's not rocket science to surmise the Blast is being replaced. But with what? Is it going to be a small v-twin? Maybe something borrowed from the 883 program? Is it going to be some water-cooled Austrian plant? A little brother to 1125, perhaps? Or maybe it will be a re-badged Italian bike. What about an XB9 re-configured with a conservative, upright posture? Something on the order of a XB9ST. I don't think it will be an all new bike. I expect Buell will utilize off the shelf parts to put together a high end starter/low end sport bike. But again, rather than guess, I'd like some hard facts. I'm at work right now and can't do a real internet search but I know some of you people have. What have you found? What do we KNOW? | ||
| Midknyte |
Why does everyone insist that Buell needs a small[er] bike on their roster? | ||
| Drkside79 |
I don't think its getting replaced i just read the Book of Buell on the website and it makes it pretty damn clear that if its not a sport bike it won't be a Buell. So long Little blasts!!!! | ||
| Zane |
It may not be a smaller bike. A 9ST wouldn't be smaller. If they borrow from the 883 program it wouldn't have to be smaller either. (Message edited by Zane on July 30, 2009) | ||
| Zane |
I'm a former Blast owner and I loved that little bike right down to it's core. That said, I recognize it was really showing its age and replacing it is a smart move. Buell has most the market covered, the XB series covers the middle ground, and the 1125 family is the high performance end. That just leaves a hole in the entry level field. That’s a lot of market share to ignore. | ||
| Point_doc |
After watching the short video with Eric Buell; I was left with impression that even thou the Blast had the Buell emblem on it, that it really wasn't there intention to have a bike that was not a "real American sport bike". http://www.buell.com/en_us/bikes/blast/# He says that the blast was not innovative, not a break thru and not a sport bike. That this bike basically left people who rode it with the wrong impression of what Buell was about, that it has pulled people away from understanding what Buell does and that is to build a real American sport bike. If a bike does not fit these criteria’s of innovative, break-thru and an American sport bike, I can't see it having a Buell emblem on it. | ||
| Zane |
That seems to leave out a re-badged Italian bike. But again, this is all guess work. My original questions was what hard information has anyone found. | ||
| Mortarmanmike120 |
I still find it odd that buell sells the XB12 in scg form, but the only XB9 in the lineup is the SX. Seems like the XB9scg would be more likely to grab a little of the 'smaller bike' market. But that has nothing to do with your question. Keep looking Roy. It might not be a bad idea to expand your search to pre-08. There's lotsa bikes out there. Sitemash does a good job of compiling ebay and craigslist listings. http://www.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cgi?cat=cpmoto good luck. | ||
| Froggy |
There was a XB9SL years ago, it literally is the same as the 12SCG but with the 9. | ||
| Mortarmanmike120 |
I know, I have one. But I think he wants something newer. | ||
| Slaughter |
The 08 does have the bigger/tougher bottom end and is just gonna hold up better... especially if ridden at all hard. | ||
| Ourdee |
Maybe something with a H2O V4 600 cc or less, that revs to the moon. Initial shock did slow the political posts, yay. | ||
| Zane |
I don't expect a high rev'ing V4 even though it would be cool. I expect to see something made with off the shelf parts to keep developement cost down. Still they got some great parts to work with... | ||
| Fast1075 |
I too am over the shock...at first I took what happened to the Cube3 as a personal insult..not that it is "out"...I thought it was a case of "you are a ••••••• for buying such a crappy little bike that Buell never wanted to build". HISTORY. All I ever wanted was a giant killer...a nasty no holds barred mongoose witha straight razor kind of bike..too much to ask? Sounds to me like that would be right up Mr. Buell's alley...I mean for someone who's first vision was a ball buster of a PG bike...In case nobody is following me here...Is blowing some quid on a Ninja's doors off with 1125 a valiant accomplishment??? I say NO. I can't get past the "it's gotta have a huge motor" complex everybody seems to have. The ACCOMPLISHMENT would be to smoke the previously mentioned Ninja's ass with a MEDIUM displacement bike. I'm going way out on a limb here and assuming that almost all Buells that are sold are getting license plates???? yes??? However you put it...they are street bikes...just like the guy on the 1098 Duc that rode with our club last month..(schweeeet bike, that  ) Anyways...I'm not going to try to tell Mr. Buell how to run his business...and I am no longer going to salivate at the though of a "Ruthlessly Engineered" midsized Buell...I realize it is like waiting for the easter bunny...a fantasy. My five year plan contains a new bike for 2010...that's several thousand dollars that SOMEONE will get..that WILL happen. And some lucky appreciative person will get my Blast..yes bygod I said LUCKY! It is a damn fine bike for what it is...It ISN'T the giant killer I want...but it sure as hell has taken some good bites out. Now reason returns...back to solid ground..since Mr. Buell cannot see to build what I want (and what I'm sure quite a few others want, judging from all the 600 Ninja's around here...they ARE midsized and the owners want performance)...I may have to compromise and buy the closest thing to what I want...that may be a Buell...but it will be a compromise... I have drank the Koolaide...I just don't want a 55 gallon barrel full. And I still wear my Erik and the 200 against the world T-shirt...I still tell everybody that will listen the story...only now I tell 'em...I just schooled yerass on a bike that Buell disowned. Oh and Hiya Zane, my old Blasterd buddy... | ||
| Ourdee |
Now for the AWE. I want it to weigh under 300 lbs. Have over 150 hp. GP handling and street manners to boot. I want 7 gears, able to ride 5 mph with the clutch locked up and top out at 180+ mph. | ||
| Froggy |
And I want to be president. | ||
| Mrsinister |
Yeah some cutting edge engineering maybe a sixth gear or something cutting edge like that. | ||
| Phwx2 |
Roybuell, You are right to get an XB. If you got anything else out of spite, you wouldn't be happy. But an XB is going to set you right. Used XBs are a great deal. When it starts and you don't need to let it warm up. When you go past 92 mph. Just don't get pissed when you have to buy a new rear tire every 3k. | ||
| Jraice |
To the OP... Nothing wrong with the SCG if thats truly what you want but one of the reasons I love my Buell over my old Japanese bike is the huge suspension travel and the way I ride I still bottom it out on occasion, or get damn near close (zip tie on my front suspension is pushed down to under an inch up the inner fork tube, not sure at what point it bottoms out internally, sure feels/sounds like it is bottoming out when it happens). And I have the Ss, with suspension from the STT, even more travel then a regular S. Just saying! Keep that in mind. For example I hit one bump leaned over yesterday (should've seen it) and I am pretty sure I wouldnt be typing now if I were on an RR or an SCG. | ||
| Froggy |
I told ya that STT suspension is awesome. Now go back and read your old posts and laugh at yourself for doubting me | ||
| Jraice |
Im fully aware of my arrogance in the past no need to look at my old posts  . Still think an uber short wheelbase (with a damper of course) would be lots of fun... just not with that SCG suspension. Past few rides I have found myself thinking, is this Buell worth the extra $4-5K I spent after selling my R6. Less power, same riding position (I now have clubman bars on and love it, ten times more comfortable then I was on the R6 but not sure if its actually the bike or just my experience level) etc... etc... It only takes one hard hit on a pothole or bump to make it click, thats why I bought the buell . Originally wasnt my reason, but now it is and I am more then happy I ride the buell as I really love to go on the roads less traveled just as much as the fast race track like smooth roads. | ||
| Roysbuell |
Jraice - I understand about the limited suspension but my short inseam says the scg is what I need. Besides I don't think I am that aggressive of a rider. | ||
| Jraice |
Thats a valid point (lack of aggressivness) but a bump at speed X is a bump at speed X, even in a straight line. But if thats what you need so be it! I have ridden with some VERY short people who ride bikes I can barely get a single foots toe down on, and I am 5'11". | ||
| Swordsman |
Since I just got the sound up and running on my new operating system, I was finally able to go back and watch those Buell videos. I think they did a FANTASTIC job discontinuing the bike. I wouldn't be surprised if that went viral, and gave Buell a ton of publicity. I absolutely love the fact that they went ahead and set up the site just like it was still a current product, with colorations and design features. Absolutely hilarious!  ~SM | ||
| Court |
>>>» The initial shock is gone. I know how to fix your shock. | ||
| Midknyte |
Why does everyone insist that Buell needs a small[er] bike on their roster? | ||
| Fast1075 |
"Why does everyone insist that Buell needs a small(er) bike on their roster?" Why so some insist that they do not? Those that do not...obviously are not part of the potential market for a small(er) bike. | ||
| Zane |
Because there is a big market in smaller bikes. | ||
| Sloppy |
Isn't that what the little 9 is for? |
