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Johncr250
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is anyone using one of these FI Boxes?

Are you happy with the results?
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Dyna
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nevco has one on his X1 & is very satisfied with it. Much better than a power commander from what I have heard.
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Johncr250
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about on an XB?
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Dyna
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, dont know of anyone who has one on an XB.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had one on my XB(before it grew a carb) and it worked great. The only drawback is your check engine light will be on most of the time.
(PS, I sell these!)

Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Captainplanet
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have one on my XB9R. I bought it from Dave. He is right, it will set off the check engine light. It is the regular 1040i harley box. It is easy to hook up and seems to work fine. I haven't really had a chance to tune it much yet. It can definately add fuel to the mix.
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Austinrider
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How is the Carb'ed XB doing by the way?
Dyno numbers?
Track runs?

Inquiring minds want to know
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Johncr250
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the help, i`m gonna try to find alittle more out about the TFI box. I know who to call to buy one! Dave
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Daves
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The shop is still messing with it
It's still winter here so I haven't had a chance to ride it yet.

Thanks Johncr250!


Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Bigbird
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Me thinks the check engine light might be coming on because you are adding enough fuel to make the AFV hit it's lean limit. Has anyone looked at AFV with the box hooked up and working?

Perhaps a better solution would be to contact Mark Doebreck at Techlusions and ask him if there is any way to adapt the BMW oilhead box (R259, I think) to the XB, because the BMW version has a built in pot for attenuating O2 sensor signal.
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Last I heard techlusion were supposed to be working on a Buell specific version of the box, and were working closely with Force. That was months ago though.......
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Captainplanet
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The check engine light only comes on with mine if I adjust the first pot on the techlusion a bit high. That will bring the idle of the bike up a bit, and then the check engine light comes on. Turn the pot back down and the check engine light goes back off. I am just playing around with it right now. Hopefully I will be able to tune on the dyno someday soon.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

also
If all your doing is pipe and filter(unless the force pipe) there is absolutely no need for the box. It can only richen the mix.

if you do head work and stuff like that well then yeah you'll need it. But other wise save your money.
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ditto what Bubba said : )
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Oconnor
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone messed with a stand alone computer like a Tech III? Is there a way to mount a crank angle pulley and sensor on these bikes? I figure for 1200 bucks you have unlimited adjustability...
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Fullpower
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CARBURETOR- unlimited adjustability
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CARBURETOR - Can't adjust on the fly easily... FI is better IMO, but we REALLY need to be able to tune it to our little hearts content w/o spending a fortune (Yes, I DO want everything).
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The great thing about fuel injection is that it does exactly what you tell it to do.

The lousy thing about fuel injection is that it does exactly what you tell it to do.
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Opto
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 03:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone messed with a stand alone computer like a Tech III...

Has anyone tried the MegaSquirt I wonder, I'm heading in a direction to run it and keep the ecm for ignition (and everything else) and switchable between the 2 FI systems for A/B comparisons. No big gains to be expected on my almost stock bike, more a learning experience if I go ahead.
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Pbjoel
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi,

I'm from Holland, Europe.

Does the Techlusion box cure the 'lean' hickups at constant speeds, caused by the (too) lean mixture because of EPA regulations? Can I order a Techlusion box for my XB12S in the US? How much is it including shipping?

Gr, PBjoel
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Johncr250
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They cost around $175.00
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Hippo888
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pbjoel,

My experience with the Techlusion box on BMW's is that it will solve 'surging' or 'hunting' during constant speeds at low-and-steady throttle openings.

I haven't had any problems with surging on my XB9S, but it's a smaller motor and your Holland emissions may be stricter than the USA 49-State bikes.
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Pilot
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 05:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave Mate.Could point me in the right direction regarding info on this techlusion box.I need to make a Buell XB12R rev upto the redline and get rid of the soft limiter that holds us back.Thanks Mate.125mph on salt on Pauls Toy.
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Bigbird
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The techlusion will not change the rev limiter-that is an ECM function. The only thing the techlusion does is provide a path to ground for the injectors after the bike's ecm shuts it's path to ground off. The length of time that the path to ground is provided is dependent on the position of the potentiometers on the techlusion unit. The longer the path to ground is supplied, the longer the injectors stay open, which allows more fuel to be injected. Pretty simple, really.

You'll have to look elsewhere to change or eliminate the rev limiter.
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Pilot
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 03:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info.looks like i will be chasing a programmable ecm for the bike.
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Docrecon
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Techlusion has a 1045 coming out, I was already supposed to have it.
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José_quiñones
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HD is selling a version of this under the Screaming Eagle Label, Part # 32132-04, $225

Here's what it looks like:



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José_quiñones
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now, if we could get something like this for Buells.......
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Johncr250
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow that screaming eagle FI box looks cool. The nice part, no splicing into your wiring harness like with the TFI box.

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Gambafreak
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any news on the TFI?

Is there anyone with experience with the 1045 model and O2 sensor.

I am having a lean condition with the Race ECM above 5000 rpm on WOT.

Above 6000 rpm the Race ECM runs leaner than the standard ECM does.
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Outrider
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gamba...If you are looking for a Techlusion Digital Fuel Optimizer for the 2000 X1 in your profile, they have been available for years and work great.

I have one on mine, three pot type, and it took out all the lean problems I incurred with the Race EMC and other mods listed in my profile. Note: The DFO did induce surging when installed with the Stock ECM and the intake and exhaust mods.

Would suggest you just check their website and either find a local dealer or buy direct.

Again, this only applies to Buell EFI Tubers.
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Gambafreak
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Outrider, thanks for your reply.

I have checked the techlusion website but there was no model listed for a Buell.

I have sent an email to techlusion with some questions.

There also is a dealer based in Holland so I will contact them as well.
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