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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who your favorite in AMA Superbike and why? I'm really kind of a big Eric Bostrom fan,how well he rode the Kawi.Considering it was under powered and it was still the same bike since 1996.Looking forward to seeing what he will do on the Duc with factory support.
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Miguel DuHamel. After he won Daytona with a bad leg, he became my hero. He doesn't quit. He's fast, smart and experienced. I think he'll win the Daytona 200 this year. Mat Mladin better watch out; with four cylinders, Miguel's going to show him what fast really is.
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with ya on that one crusty.Thats why they call him Mr.Daytona.Honda has a bike this year that matches the GSXR.I've never really been a Mladin fan.Miguel is another fav for me.Hope to see him go out on top before retirement.
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Fbolt
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looking for the new Honda to take SBK. I'm really interested in MotoGP this year with both Hayden and Edwards riding top shelf bikes, it should be exciting. I also just saw that Roberts is going to race for Proton~no doubt I'll be hearing him whine this year...
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guys, the new release of a street bike has little to do with the development progress of a superbike racing machine. Suzuki, despite having to go back to stock throttle bodies, has a HUGE head start. Though I suspect Honda has it pretty much figured out too, the bike is new and still under development. Ben is the best rider of the bunch, if he can get his head back on straight I see him doing well. He could very well have taken last year's 2nd place Daytona finish to heart. I wouldn't bet against him.

I think Miguel is great too. He races cause he loves it and is one of the all time greats.

I'll be routing for Eric on the Michelin shod Duc. Ditto what you said Dana. He rode his heart out last couple of years. Gotta like routing for an American, and for a V-Twin. After what Dunlop pulled wrt monopolizing most of the track test dates and excluding non-Dunlop teams after the dates had originally been posted as open to all... well, I won't be routing for Dunlop. Imagine that, routing for a French tire company over an American one.

Go EBoz!

edited by blake on February 27, 2004
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake Suzuki dominated its first year at bat in all its classes.Honda seems to come to the table usually more prepared then anyone.Look at GP since they rolled out the V5 it has one all but 3 races if I remember right since they rolled it to the line 2 yrs ago.I know great riders are aboard them but they still were riding brand new bikes.I think this is going to be a great season cause the bikes seem to be more on par with everyone else.Kawi is finally stepping to the plate with a big liter bike,Suzuki you know they have a great bike,Honda brings out the new inline big liter,a Duc comes to the plate with more support in the AMA then ever before on the 999 that also a awesome bike.This year is in my opinion gonna be fantastic.
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Henrik
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like:

Duhamel; for being a true sportsman/gentleman, and for his fantastic ability to read a race and make the most of the cards he's dealt. And for always having something positive to say, no matter what happened on track or off ; ) He's always appreciative of the people that made it possible for him to be where he is. And he really makes kenny Roberts stand out as the "Super Chicken" he is : D

Duhamel rode ... and won ... with a pinned clavicle - the pin about to pierce the skin, whereas Super Chicken was "battling" a sore shoulder for the first 4 months of the season and constantly used that as his excuse - HAH!!!

E. Bostrom: for never giving up and for always thanking the team - despite the factory making him struggle on an "almost" competitive bike for years. Love his lean angle as well - can you say "Elbow Sliders"

Mladin: for being the most dedicated competitor out there. The guy just never gives up, extremely focused, trains like a mad man to make up for less riding talent (please don't take that as a knock - obviously the man is a fantastic rider, but others have more "natural talent"; ))

And I'd like to see Colin Edwards do well in MotoGP as well.

Henrik
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Dehorridge
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yea, come on Edwards kick that Italians arse. ( and I'm British)

D
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EBOZ....no doubt abotu it....
MOTOGP Hayden and colin...

I want eboz to kick the crap out of mladin because matt is such a winey baby.

duhamel...is pure great because of his heart
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Buelluk
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Of course Mladin is whiney ..he's Australian !

I would like to see Rossi win on a Yamaha,but would be pleased for Nicky on the RC
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Henrik,

Have you forgiven Sir Duhamel for last years rock throwing tantrum? That blew me away, it was SO out of character for him. Emotions, they can get the best of just about any of us. I've forgiven him, cause... far be it from me to "cast any stones." (I kill me) : ]

Dana,
But recall that Honda somehow got a big jump on their competitors in the burgeoning 4 stroke Moto GP. They seemed to know before anyone else that the GP class was indeed going to literbike four strokes and had their machine all ready to go while the other competitors will just getting started. And even if not, it would have been a level playing field with all competitors coming online with new machines simultaneously. Often it is the mongo huge richest factory competitor that has the advantage in such a case. Honda certainly nailed it with the RC211V.

Last year, Suzuki/Mladin were the only ones running a factory IL4 literbike and it turned out to be far and away the fastest machine in the series, winning all but a few races. But recall who won Daytona last year, the tried and true RC51. The big gix was new and still had some bugs that the team hadn't worked out... like trying to figure out how to make a rear tire stand up to its ferocious power. LOL. It can certainly happen, but I'll be VERY impressed with HRC and their rider if a CBR1000RR wins Daytona this year. That said, it appears that HRC, like in MotoGP has managed to get ahead of their competitors. Just as AMAPR announces that literbike IL4 superbikes will be limited to stock throttle bodies, low and behold Honda releases the CBR1000RR with dual injector throttle bodies. Coincidence? Yeah right. Suzuki was either caught sleeping or was bushwhacked by AMAPR and HRC (my suspicion) and is now scrambling to make power with a set of stock throttle bodies with single injectors. S'okay, Suzuki reveled in their advantage last year, so maybe they deserve to be behind the curve a little this year.

The question is... will big power defeat a finely tuned and well sorted chassis at Daytona? It didn't last year. : ) The drama builds.... Should I do the pre-race show for Speed TV or what? : ]

I sure do hope EBoz does well, but the record of the Ducati Austin team is not very promising. Too many mechanical problems. Hopefully the Italians will be stateside en'force to aid that effort. If I were Ducati Corse, I'd be more inclined to bring Vance & Hines or Jeff Nash on board for Ducati's AMA Superbike effort.

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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I gotta route for Baylis and Capirossi with Ducati in Moto GP too. Baylis is a total class act and I would love to see the Ducs win big.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm cheering for Ducati Austin. (They let me test ride the 999. I was scared to death I'd drop a $20K motorcycle.)
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake.Hrc did have a little jump on the comp but then again Duc came into the mix after years of absence and started kick'n but and taking names in a new ball game for them.Un like Proton that is struggling to make it and they have been at it for longer then Duc in this series.But as far as Gp and AMA Superbike is concerned The talent has really been moved around and the bikes are new (Duc, Kawi,Honda)so all together I think this is going to be a very very interesting season to watch unfold.I hope Bostrom does it,the guy busted his hump on that old Kawi,he deserves it expect some tears to be flying from him if he does it.
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake; don't remember that episode - was that when Ben Bostrom (?) took him and a couple of other riders out on a dicey inside pass of some lappers?? If so, I forgive him also : )

You kill the rest of us too : D

Henrik
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah that was it. He was REAL upset for being taken out, and for the lack of a red flag. In a fit of frustration, he picked up a handful of gravel and threw it onto the track.
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Gonen60
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT RIDERS SHOW UP FOR DAYTONA THIS YEAR, WITH ALL THE TIRE TROUBLE AND CRASHES IN THE PRE-SEASON..LOTS OF THEM ARE PRETTY VOCAL ABOUT NOT RIDING THE HIGH BANK TURN ANYMORE...

MLADIN IN AMA (like to see him in Moto GP)
HAGA AND WALKER in World Superbike
ROSSI AND BAYLIS in Moto GP..(GOING TO BE A GREAT YEAR)
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Look at Henrik's post above about Mladin,that is a mirror of my thoughts of him.But him in GP I really don't think he has the talent that others have to be there.This year will be the year that he loses the crown.Just a prediction but I think accurate
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Gonen60
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Moto Gp is all about the Bike you are on, unless you are V Rossi of course...

Don't care who is on the proton (cool bike) suzuki or Kawaski...they will not win a (Moto Gp) race this year, no matter who pilots them.

put Mladin on a Honda RC211V He would do well

I think most Moto GP pilots are first class, it's the Bikes that make up the differance...again, unless you are Rossi..He is going to Win on the Yamaha, no doubt about it, maybe not the championship, but in the top 3

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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tires.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Blake.Gone trying to make a bike like the Honda which has about 240HP at the gearbox make its tire last a entire race is a science in its self.Now I know a superbike can lose its tire fast also but not like a GP bike.The style of riding is alot different to if you watch it enough.
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tyres are not the overriding factor in GP racing. The top riders share equal rubber. First you have to beat the RCV, then the rider.

Rocket
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Gonen60
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yamaha will win some for sure this year, I also think Ducati can do well.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think Ducati will do well this year.Yamaha with Rossi.....I think he'll still be a force,but he's gonna have to ride even harder this year.I really don't know what my opinions of Hayden and Edwards are yet.Both are awesome in there own right but both new to the team and the bike.
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José_quiñones
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Horsepower is not what's killing the tires, it's the weight of the Superbikes relative to the MotoGP bikes.

That and Daytona, the track itself, is unique in the amount of load that it puts on tires when pushing 370 pound bikes around the track.

A MotoGP bike around Daytona would have the same tire problems, as it would spin the tire all the way around the banking like the Superbikes are doing now.
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José_quiñones
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Back on topic, Miguel in the AMA, Colin in GP, Haga in WSBK, Pascal in Canadian Superbike.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JQ,
Read your 8:15 pm post, the first sentence, then the last.

Rocket,
Last season, Colin Edwards, twice WSB champion, chose Aprilia with Michelin over RS211V with Bridgestones. Nah, tires don't matter? rolleyes

I also recall other bikes winning some races besides the Honda last year. Honda dominated yes, and I'll not disagree that the RS211V was the best bike in 2003. In 2004? If Ducati had a more competitive rider, or if Baylis or Capirossi get things better sorted, who knows.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who knows????That is the question Blake.Yamaha and Ducati were showing them selves worthy last year and you would have to expect even more so this year.Kawi from what I read about there bike for this year has sorted through some HP issues.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Since the thread is really AMA Superbike.Who do you guys think is going to prevail at Daytona???
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buttwiser at an average of 70% of the beer sales : D
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