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Drkside79
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So i need to change the oil on my xb9sx 08 model. I have never done it so i need some advice!
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Bishopjb1124
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buy the service manual, or use the search button on here it will get you the results you need.


Jimmy
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It really is a good idea to buy the Shop Manual and the Parts book.

Buells are relatively simple to work on, but due to the unique design, they do require some different techniques.

The parts book not only gives you the part numbers, but it shows how everything fits together.

I just changed my oil the other day: let's see if I can remember how I did it.

First I assemble my tools: Torx 27 bit, socket for the oil drain plug, (I forget the size just now), an oil filter wrench, the kind that grips it from the bottom, and an adjustable wrench to loosen the dipstick. A funnel is a good idea too.

Then I get the oil, 3 qt.s of Mobil 1 15W50, a filter, ( I use Walmart SuperTech 4967 but there is nothing the matter with the Harley filter, except they cost four times as much, and they don't stock them at Wally World where I get the oil:-), and my portable low work seat.

Next I remove the chin fairing, so I don't have to do it when the bike is hot. Hate burnt fingers.

Then I take the bike out for a ride to get the oil hot. Ten or fifteen minutes will do fine. Ride fast:-).

When I return, I drain the oil into a pan, and save it to a clean Clorox bottle. ( I recycle the oil in to my girlfriends jalopy.)

After all the oil appears to be out, I run the bike for about five seconds which usually pushes another cup of dirty oil out.

Then I remove the oil filter with the oil wrench, and fill the new filter half way full of oil, wipe a bit of oil on the rubber gasket, and install the new filter, tightening it by hand. It isn't really necessary, but I then put a hose clamp around the filter, and run some safety wire from the filter around the exhaust pipe, only because it is required by Tony's Trackdays.

Then I replace the drain plug, just tight, but not over tight. DO NOT use the torque values suggested by Buell unless you want to strip the threads and replace the swing arm.

Next put two and a half quarts of oil into the oil tank in the swing arm.

Finally reinstall the chin fairing, making sure to use Blue, (medium strength) Loctite.

That's all there is to it!

Unless I forgot something.

Anyone?

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Firebolt32
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon hit it pretty well. Then do your tranny and you'll be golden.... I always do mine together.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Please don't "power flush" either the swingarm or the primary.

You won't like the results.
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Xb1200rick
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You forgot the BEER
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Drkside79
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks!
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Ducbsa
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Make temporary funnels or spouts to guide the oil away from the muffler tip.
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Doubled
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just use some aluminum foil and kinda wrap my muffler with it. Prolly not as clean as a funnel, but it doesn't take three hands to make it work!!
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After all the oil appears to be out, I run the bike for about five seconds which usually pushes another cup of dirty oil out.


You do what?!?

I personally would never do that. I change my oil more often so it really never gets that dirty.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on Rpm4x4. Pretty big risk for a cup of oil.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After all the oil appears to be out, I run the bike for about five seconds which usually pushes another cup of dirty oil out.

Didn't notice that. I don't do that...actually never heard of that being done.
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Saratoga
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Running the bike with no oil is not something I'm going to be trying. For all the oil it pumps out, there's that much more not getting taken back in.

All it's doing is sucking the oil out of the filter which will come out when you take it off anyhow.

(Message edited by saratoga on June 08, 2009)
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Scout66
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 04:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gentleman_jon

I think the extra "cup" of oil might simply be oil from the oil filter being sucked out....

After draining the motor oil, If you remove the oil filter (without running the engine for those five seconds), there should be oil left in the oil filter.

(Message edited by scout66 on June 09, 2009)

(Message edited by scout66 on June 09, 2009)
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 06:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good thinking, men.

However, when I removed the filter, it was full of oil.

My idea was that a few seconds operation under no load wouldn't hurt anything.

Of course, I could be mistaken

Wouldn't be the first time.

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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you all very much Oil change done. If it wasn't for one evil bolt on the fairing being cross threaded it wouldn't have been so bad
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Lonewolfnavet
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I take the bike out for 15 minutes and then hand the keys to the dealer mechanic and say ...I wanna oil change buddy! Then I wait for what seems like eternity, then they tell me its ready and I hand them $120 and kick myself in the butt for being a lazy ass and not doing it myself...then I get home and explain to the wife where the heck the last $120 of our life savings went...and then I just tell her it went to the dealership to help stimulate the freakin economy...LOL!
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Congratulations, Darkie!!

It will be so easy the next time, you'll be able to con the little lady into doing it.

Maybe.

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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah next it's time for the primary oh and off to the store to get a new bolt as i stripped the hell out of the cross threaded one. stupid little pansy toque/Allen wrench they give you is useless.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Right.

While you are at the Hardware Store, why not pick up a good quality Torx T-27 bit that you can use with your 1/4"socket wrench?

I have a six inch extension that has a screw driver type handle on it, and the makes dealing with the T27's a lot easier.

There is a whole bunch of T-27's on a Buell. I must admit that I often replace them with Stainless Allen heads where appropriate.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have one of these in my tool pouch http://www.amazon.com/Gear-Wrench-4-Inch-Combinati on-Ratcheting/dp/B0002NYD44
and use it with the T27 bit.
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Mbo54
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do you change the primary oil?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The procedure is detailed in the service manual. Remove drain plug, open inspection windows, check primary chain slack, refill and go for a ride. : )
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