| Author | Message | ||
     Caféelite |
Man this bike has really pushed me to the edge of my tolerance. Quick jist of the issue is my 06 city ran like crap towards the end of last year (stumbling all over the rpms). Did the typical TPS reset and stuff but nothing. Hopefully to start the year off I ordered a O2 sensor, Air temp sensor and intake valve seals.... few other bits and pieces but whatev at this point. I stripped multiple bolth getting to the O2 sensor. I stripped both upper intake seal bolts.. had some quarter sized sockets so getting the lowers were not that bad. My intake has so much carbon build up its insane so I decide to part it and clean. GUESS WHAT.. stripped the bolts holding the butterfly flap down... *sigh* I have never had this much trouble with any type of mechanical device. Thing that really chaps my arse is that I talk up the buells to everyone I know. I love the look and ride but I dont think I can tolerate this level of crap. Extremely frustrated... | ||
| Swordsman |
Dude, that sucks. Are all those pieces coated with thread locker, or are you just having some seriously rotten luck? ~SM | ||
| Augustus74 |
Don't wanna piss on your head and tell you its raining but it seems maybe you were to blame? Maybe you should walk away from the bike for a day or two to settle down? Good luck and I hope it all works out! Reminds me of a sticker I saw once - "If it has tits or wheels, it will give you trouble." | ||
| Roysbuell |
Did you strip the heads or the threads? Heat cycling, WD-40, and hammer taps do wonders for stubborn bolts, and patience is a must! | ||
| Dennista15 |
Use PB Blaster, WD-40 is not a penetrating oil, and take your time. | ||
| Glitch |
PB Blaster FTW | ||
| Swordsman |
What is this Peanut Butter gun everyone seems to be talking about today?  ~SM | ||
| Pogue_mahone |
http://www.geocities.com/andoverhardware/pBLaster. html | ||
| Roysbuell |
Ohhhh... I've used PB Blaster before. It works great. I didnt know what it was called but I know that can. WD40 is a water displacer (wd) formula # 40. It penetrates once it gets hot. | ||
| Carbide |
I've said that to myself more than once. But then I ride it and it all melts away..... What oil leak? Worth the price of admission. | ||
| Aptbldr |
Threaded fasteners that don't have thread-lock are seemingly assembled 'dry' at the factory (for my '04). These often challenge me at first dis-assembly. I re-assemble with a little lube on threads. Jess, your daughter's a cutie! Keep your XB and plan to consult her next time a screw won't budge. | ||
| Caféelite |
Well I got the intake valve\butterfly flap out. One actually snapped (easy one) and the other melted when I was trying to use and extractor. The bar it sets on is done for since is so thin the few threads it has for the bolts are pretty bad so it looks like I will need a new one. Curious if this comes as a kit, individual parts.. im hoping there is a kit and its not to expensive. One thing I noticed when I pulled the throttle assembly off and pulled the bar out that there is a piece of felt stuck on the intake housing. Im assuming this keeps debris out? Is this a replaceable part? I did not soak the part before attacking because I stuck my finder on the carbon\oil build up and it seemed to smudge away fairly easy. This put me under the impression if anything that it would come out easy since the oil from the blow by is in a way keeping it lubed (I was wrong). Aptbldr: she is awesome and thinks the buell is super cool (her words). | ||
| Caféelite |
Is there a diff between the 06 XB9 city and XB12R throttle bodies? Im curious about the manifold itself, injectors and TPS sensor? | ||
| Jos51700 |
Well I got the intake valve\butterfly flap out. One actually snapped (easy one) and the other melted when I was trying to use and extractor. The bar it sets on is done for since is so thin the few threads it has for the bolts are pretty bad so it looks like I will need a new one. Curious if this comes as a kit, individual parts.. im hoping there is a kit and its not to expensive. You're not supposed to take that apart. I'm guessing you don't know the difference between a LH bolt and RH bolt, and I KNOW you shouldn't be working on your bike. Stop throwing parts at it, stop blaming it because YOU worked on it, and stop molesting it. Take it to someone, anyone, that does it for a living. I'm seriously NOT trying to be mean, but you aren't doing the bike or yourself any favors here. | ||
| Jos51700 |
And there is no kit for the throttle butterfly (Please don't cal it an intake valve again, ever), because there's never a valid reason to take that apart. | ||
| Ripdog28 |
HAHA you blame buell for a small problem(easily fixed if you know how)you made into something bigger then it needed to be. | ||
| Caféelite |
Jos.. Thanks for your words of encouragement.. Im by no means a buell master tech but I think I'll keep working on bike myself even if I dont know all the buell verbage. Just for your own benefit I would avoid reading any other threads created by me as to prevent yours eyes from burning. BTW I was able to get intake valve thingy *rolleyes* back together but if anyone can answer my above question about the XB12 intake manifold and parts I would appreciate it. Now that I have had sometime to cool down I no longer hate my buell. Hopefully it will be running when I get my parts from Tripp. | ||
| Froggy |
As far as I know all XB's up to 07 use the same throttlebody. They revised it once or twice over the years but it still is the "same". 08+'s have a different one. | ||
| Glitch |
As far as I know all XB's up to 07 use the same throttlebody. Maybe after the 03's. | ||
| Caféelite |
Well I did some digging and it appears the 06 9's use a 45mm throttle body and the 12's use a 49mm. Considering thats and inner diameter im curious how consistent that is down the intake manifold. I wonder if the section that mates against the head is to large. I guess trial and error will tell me. | ||
| Ekass13 |
Repair manual????? | ||
| Caféelite |
Yes to the manual question but there is nothing in there about taking the butterfly out. Then again there is nothing in there saying not to take it out  .. In my book if it has a nut or bolt with a place for me to place my tools then it can be disassembled.. I just might use a bit more caution going forward though. It appears the screws holding the butterfly on the throttle bar are hollowed and inject with something to spread the ends apart. I think this was done to avoid the possibility of them reversing out and getting into the engine. Makes sense now that I have it apart and the ability to look them over. Granted it wasnt the smartest thing I have done but to my knowledge this topic has not been discussed on badweb before and now it has.. Hopefully it will help someone else in the future. | ||
| Ironhead1977 |
Caféelite, There is nothing you can do to your ride that cannot be repaired. What you are doing is how you learn and we all have to pay for what we learn one way or another. In time you may become the teacher. | ||
| Sifo |
It appears the screws holding the butterfly on the throttle bar are hollowed and inject with something to spread the ends apart. I think this was done to avoid the possibility of them reversing out and getting into the engine. Makes sense now that I have it apart and the ability to look them over. Exactly! Do you have the necessary skills to ensure that you get it back together in a way that it won't back out and feed your engine metal parts? I'm not sayin' anything... I'm just sayin'... | ||
| Iamarchangel |
The school of crash and burn. I always say that experience is not the best teacher, sometimes you have the final exam before the classes have started. Somebody else's experience is the best teacher. They go through all the trials and tribulations, frustration and expense, while you, we, get to sit and learn. Thank you for leading us through this. |
