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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

rocket
no I'd rather you lose your tounge...that way you'd be made so much fun of your self esttem would even go lower in the shit can. and no woman would ever want you again because you would be orally worthless.
the fact that you'd still be here spouting your bile would just be a reminder of how loathsome your life really is.

but I just jess I wish no harm on anybody, even you. you just make it easy to poke fun at you because you hate so much.

BTW bone stock the 12's are faster than the ol tubers I know how you hate it but it is true.

and the only reason you english are speed freaks is because your try9ing to run from your fuggin queen and her family of inbreds that steal all your money. plus england has only really accomplished 2 good things in all its time...Triumph motorcycles and the rolling stones.
so its ok big guy we still love ya....







like a mange covered dog about to be euthanized in the dog pound
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Gusmyster
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

100 mph 2001 S3 (indicated)
g u s
btw... 12 years no tickets in my state, Buel owner since Oct.....a ticket 15 mph over a few weeks back! I guess it just looks too fast.
g u s
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Noface
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

paint it black... paint it black ya devil!

damn Bubba, tell us what ya really think
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Austinrider
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't help but wonder how fabulous an XB12S would be if it could reach with ease 150mph or more. That to me is a true measure of how an XB will perform at much lower speeds despite what the engineers here claim otherwise. Torque is a fabulous thing but only for so long, right up until it runs out of revs.


Okay, usually I wont try to feed the trolls, but this statement is just so assenine that I could not resist.
Are you trying to say that a bike like the 'Busa which is extremely fast is a great handling bike at low speeds, or better yet, in the twisties?
I know my Buell is not the fastest bike on the straights, but damn if I'm not passing the big inline 4's in the turns at the track.

Rocket - you only show your ignorance in my opinion by stating that a bike that can go fast (in a straight line) will handle great at slow speeds.

With only 7500rpm's, I have no problem passing people in the turns, or the straights coming out of turns.

Have you even ridden a Buell (particularly an XB) at the track? Do you have any track times or video footage?

I have plenty of video to show me passing all kinds of bikes this past weekend. Just need a place that can host a 220MB file.

'One swallow does not a summer make'
But Im sure swallowing all summer made you.

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edited by austinrider on February 18, 2004
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Stoobr2
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It seems my fellow Buelligan from UKBeg Steviejay01 has opened up a right can of worms here ?

Just you wait till I see him this weekend

In the meantime,i'll continue to have my fun on my 9s in the twisty back roads,after all....It's NOT how fast you can get from A to B,it's how much fun you have on the way

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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder what makes 150mph a magic number.
I wonder if there was to be a Buell that would go 151mph out of the box if that number would change.
I wonder what makes 120hp a magic number.
I wonder if there was a Buell that had 121hp out of the box if that number would change.
I wonder if the problem isn't Buell, could it be bitterness and/or misplaced aggression?
I wonder...

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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


'One swallow does not a summer make'
But Im sure swallowing all summer made you.


My ex said it best in an arguement with her son..."I should have SWALLOWED!"
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Ld50
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

135. The 900rr and duc monster just pulled away. I didn't have any trouble hangin in there in the twisties, and I don't really need to go that fast all that often. When it comes down to it anyone can be a hero on a straight.
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Rocketman
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 05:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Touching Bubba.

Rocket
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Dynarider
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW bone stock the 12's are faster than the ol tubers I know how you hate it but it is true.

Bone stock the XB9 is good for around 133mph.
The XB12 from all tests I have read is between 135-138mph.

The X1 topped out at 139 mph actual speed.
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK!!!!
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

glad you can feel the love rocket
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Paulinoz
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2 weeks to day I leave with a bone stock except for LSR race prep XB12R will let you know what it will do in a straight line at sea level upon return.
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Rocketman
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you trying to say that a bike like the 'Busa which is extremely fast is a great handling bike at low speeds, or better yet, in the twisties?

You said that, not me, but funny enough I have said that before, and you are correct about the Busa as it happens Tex.

Yes Tex plenty of track time , yawn, yawn, yawn. What's that prove? Everything about the rider - nuthin about the bike.

One more thing fella. I don't appreciate the personal comments about my mother. Understood?

Anyway, I got a question for you XB die hards. If you consider the tube frame Buells not as fast as the XB's what would you say the result would be if you put the XB motor into a tube framer? Ever heard the term 'power to weight ratio'?

Rocket
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket I've ridden two busa's that friends own and comparing them to a Buell is like comparing a school bus to a sportscar in the tight stuff.Not saying it isn't a nice bike but clearly designed for a different purpose.To answer your last Question.Your reaching man reaching what we talking here 20 or so pounds.My buddy can't catch my 12 on his X1 and he ways 60 lbs. less then me and thats roll ons from 30mph.Arcoss the board it was faster and that was my bike stock and his race kitted
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Austinrider
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket -
Just for the record, I never said nothin' 'bout yo momma.

Now, you come into our back yard, screamin' and-a hollerin' like a chiken with its head cut off about how bad our bikes are, or how they dont measure up in the straight line speed test - yeah expect some insults to come a flyin' across the pond at ya.

It'd be like me comin' over to ya'lls place and makin fun of that queenie lady, rompin' around cussin and what not talkin' about how the Triumph just cant hold a candle to the latest and greatest Jap bike.

So when you come into another mans back yard, you dont talk about his fat ugly wife, you compliment him on how much time he spends takin care of the place, got it?
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Paulinoz
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ever heard the term 'power to weight ratio'???
What's the point mate, XB12 is lighter and more powerfull stock than any of the tube frame models. Hence on paper it should be quicker or am I missing somthing.
Why do you think it is not.
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Steviejay01
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I tell you what kids....
I'm glad I opened this fcuking thread!!


Oh by the way........I got 198mph out of it today in 1st gear.
Overtook 6 Busa's on the back wheel, ate 3 R1's and still had time to spark a fag up before breakfast.


What I wanted to know was how much of a problem I was gonna have while riding on the Autobahns with my fellow jab biker mates on our way to Assen This year....

I'm pretty sure my little 9r would keep up till around the 120mph mark....

If I had Bubba's Exhaust maybe I could make a better impression.......hehehe





edited by Steviejay01 on February 20, 2004
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know if this fair. Probably not, but it's all I could find.
Motorcyclist Magazine "Hard Numbers"
Buell XB9R Firebolt ('02) 11.71 @ 113.74 in the quarter
Buell S3 Thunderbolt ('99) 11.90 @ 113.2 in the quarter
XB = 78.2HP @ 7250
Torque = 61.8 @ 5500
S3 = 90.1HP @6500
Torque = 78.1 @ 6000
XB = 455 lbs.
S3 = 514 lbs.

Food for thought, or Fuel for the fire?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steviejay,
You bought the wrong bike to keep up with the repliracers in an autobahn blitzkrieg. Suggest you take the back roads.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

If I had Bubba's Exhaust maybe I could make a better impression.......hehehe




Not if the TUV catches you. I saw them behind a pulled over motorcycle on the Autobahn near Munich with sound measuring equipment out and checking... Top speed? Zero MPH : (
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Stot
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yall know that in the UK the tubers are geared for more like 160mph right?? That would make it top end faster than any XB out there at the mo.

Cya
Stot
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Imonabuss
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XBs are significantly lighter than tube frame bikes, Rocket. What are you thinking?

Tube frame Buells are really neat, and will live on forever. But the XBs are totally new, and beat them in weight, power, ride, handling and braking. What else would you expect when a company switches to a new platform after building tube frame bikes since 1985, right?

Now looks are a matter of personal preference, so I can understand when some people say they like the looks of the tube frame bikes more than the XBs. I don't agree, 'cause I thnk my XB is gorgeous, but looks are definitely a matter of taste.

But to argue with the facts and the technology doesn't make sense...
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stot,
Are you trying to imply that a stock Buell tube framed model in UK will actually achieve 150+ mph? Please say "no." : )
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm thinking that's the secret to its impressive performance, considering XB's still use the antique engine. Imagine what could have been if it had a Hyosung 650 supercharged engine instead.

You ask me what I'd expect when a company switches to a new platform after building tube frame bikes since 1985. Considering the company in question is supposed to have one of, if not the greatest engineer on the planet heading it up, not to mention the massive financial clout of its parent company which is one of the wealthiest companies in America, I'd say Buell could have achieved so so much more than a two valve pushrod dinosaur power plant driving their utterly brilliant XB platform around.

You can of course argue that most owners, if not all, are more than satisfied with their high torque drive out of the corners all American hot rod, but what say them if they were first given a V twin ohc multi valve motor similar in performance to say a Ducati twin, and one capable of superbike performance? You think they'd still want the pushrod dinosaur? Would they fuck. Instead they'd all be on BadWeB spouting tales of Ducati killing and not defending what they are now simply because they know no better.

You can't tell me Erik Buell's first choice of engine for his XB platform was what's in it now. Boosting capacity to 1200cc proves that much.

Rocket
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Dynarider
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XBs are significantly lighter than tube frame bikes, Rocket. What are you thinking?

Per Motorcycle consumer news here are the stats they recorded


Bike........wet weight......qtr mile .....topspeed
XB9R....... 450 lbs........ 11.83........ 133 mph
X1......... 495 lbs........ 11.45........ 139 mph
XB12S...... 461 lbs ....... 11.54 ....... 135 mph
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I wanted, I could spout tales "Ducati killing" with my '97 Cyclone, and on a race track no less.

I do indeed believe that Mr. Buell's first choice in engine for the XB's is what we now see. In Mr. Buell I see a man who chooses to purposefully defy convention. Look at the huge leap in performance and reliability we have seen since just ten years ago when the S2 was using a stock Sportster engine. Why the hell join the crowd and build another race replica. The Buell is superior in many ways to the repliracer hyperbikes, just not in peak speed or HP.

Until Mr. Buell has the resources to make an all out assault on the Superbike racing class, why bother with a pretender? Why not make a great street bike and in so doing break all kinds of new ground in the world of production sporting motorcycles.

I don't get your comment wrt boosting engine capacity at all.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna,
Are those quarter mile times from MCN corrected?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Another factor in a drag race... the significantly shorter wheelbase of the XB.
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Motorcyclist magazine test qtr.mile times 11.38 sec. @ 117.59 mph.



Sportrider magazine test qtr mile times 11.43 @ 117.5 mph.
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