| Author | Message | ||
     Jraice |
I also plan to get some to tie in the look of my bike and for the adjustability. For the brake I think I might like the shorty setup, but for the clutch I am worried it will be to difficult to pull in around town. Any input? | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
I've got CRG shorty clutch and brake levers on my X1 and don't notice any problem using the clutch. It gets a bit strenuous if I'm in traffic, but no worse than the stock lever, and I'm rarely in traffic anyway. If you want to decrease lever pull then look into an aftermarket clutch ramp or even a hydraulic setup. | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
Shorty's give me more leverage than the stock levers, so it makes it easier and less strenuous around town. It's also not uncommon to have different lengths for brake/clutch- it's all rider's preference. Aren't choices great. | ||
| Badbueller |
I hear you there. Im not sure whether to go shorties or one of each. I am going to have to finally breakdown and get some for sure. | ||
| Jraice |
Shorty's give you more leverage? leverage = force * lever arm Not sure how a shorter lever could give you more leverage but if thats the case then sweet cause the shorty's look much better IMHO! (Message edited by jraice on May 15, 2009) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I think the "leverage" comes from the lever throw. I think a better descriptor would be that the shorty's give more lever travel before the lever end touches the bar. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
I had Pazzo shorts and loved them. The adjustability was excellent as was feel. I originally got shorts in case the bike tipped over or I dumped, the bike would land on the bar ends and not bend my levers like french horns. | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
I'll describe this the best I can... On the stock-length lever, you increase leverage by by pulling on it farther towards the end (where the ball is). If you keep your hand in the same place, using more fingers increases leverage because you are, in effect, utilizing more of the lever (towards the ball end). I ride with my hand snugged-up against the inside of the grip (control end), and I use two or three fingers on the levers. This gives the least amount of leverage on a stock-length lever. When using a shorty lever, the max leverage point is moved closer to the inside of the bar. Additionally, the ball end (highest leverage) actually touches my outermost finger. The combination of increased leverage and having the ball end "hook" around my outside finger makes it easier to use and feel much better. A short lever basically moves your grip to the outside edge of the lever- without actually moving your hand on the bar. I find it to be superior, but every rider is different. I also have medium-sized hands, and the shorty levers may be too small for those with large hands, those who keep their hand on the outside of the grip, or those who prefer to have a full-finger grip. | ||
| Dmhines |
I have AGV shorties ... they are awesome. There is NO WAY I would ever got back to stock. I recommend shorty adjustable levers no matter what brand you choose. | ||
| Badbueller |
Well you guys convinced me. I just bought some black and orange Pazzo shorties. Cant wait to test them out! | ||
| Ezblast |
New Prices? http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/levers.html EZ | ||
| Badbueller |
What do you mean EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
Everyone is quoting 169 for a lever, they say 109 - new pricing? Or are you guys quoting a set? EZ | ||
| Badbueller |
Im quoting a whole set. I just paid 179 shipped for the set of pazzos. | ||
| Ezblast |
Ahhh - good price! EZ | ||
| Badbueller |
Not a bad price but it still hurts a little paying that for levers. But as its been said, they look great and having an adjustable clutch is gonna be great. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
buellinachinashop I originally got shorts in case the bike tipped over or I dumped They help protect the leathers a bit. Sorry, back to the discussion. (Message edited by iamarchangel on May 16, 2009) | ||
| Badbueller |
Two days after I order a new set, someone is selling a used set of crg's in the classifieds here.. Great timing ;O | ||
| Old_man |
I have an 03. It has a much stouter clutch spring. The laws of physics being what they are. I need all the lever length I can get. The shorter lever would not work for me. | ||
| Badbueller |
The 03 is stouter than newer? | ||
| Old_man |
Yes, they put a weaker spring on the newer bikes. Makes the effort to pull much less. When they did this they came out with a change to the primary oil. My 03 used the same oil as the engine. When they changed the clutch spring they went to the Formula +. I think it must contain an additive to prevent clutch slippage. | ||
| Badbueller |
Oh that explains some differing opinions. I have an 03 as well. I just ordered some shorties so hopefully I can adjust them to not be too tough to pull. | ||
| Old_man |
Badbueller, If you find it too stiff with the shorty levers, you can replace the clutch spring with the newer one. Then go to the Formula+ If short levers are that important to you. | ||
| Andymnelson |
What years can we get the clutch spring off of to work with our 2003s? Anyone have a part number? Are we sure there is not anything else that is different, ie: I'm not going to screw up something else by swapping the clutch spring? :-p | ||
| Badbueller |
Ya Im wondering the same thing as andy. I would have gotten longs but they are already on there way so its too late. | ||
| Old_man |
I have one of those spring grip exercisers with a very heavy pull that I use regularly in my left hand, in the off season to keep my grip in shape. Maybe, try that rather than changing the clutch spring. Good luck. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
I have one of those spring grip exercisers with a very heavy pull that I use regularly in my left hand, in the off season to keep my grip in shape. If you feel the pain/discomfort in the bottom of your forearm (arm out in front, palm down), the grip exerciser is okay. If you feel it on top of your forearm, they're not helping. Get some 1lb dumbbells, put your elbow and forearm on the table so your below your wrist hangs off the table, palm down. Lift the dumbbell up while keeping your arm on the table. Start with 5 reps 3 times alternating hands and palm up. If that's okay, go to 10 reps. If that's okay, start all over with 2 lbs. Yes, I have a degree in this, trust me. | ||
| Andymnelson |
lol, or just swap the spring and ride! | ||
| Old_man |
What happens if I have to ride in stop and go traffic too long is the fingers start to cramp up. The spring exerciser seems to help. Any advice from your expertise would be appreciated. | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
hmm.. that would explain why my left arm is always in better shape at the end of a riding season. |
