| Author | Message | ||
     Dongalonga |
Does anyone have a copy of the Race ECM fuel/timing data for an 03 XB9S. I just got ECM Spy and want to flash in the Race ECM data. | ||
| Ustorque |
pm sent | ||
| Hammer71 |
PM sent with link. | ||
| 03firebolt |
Can someone pm this info to me too? maybe? | ||
| Dongalonga |
GB231 is the Race ECM correct? After I download it how do I open it and write it to my stock ECM. | ||
| Ustorque |
pm sent | ||
| Ustorque |
can't help you there shaun....that step has scared me still! | ||
| Ustorque |
make sure you save you stock map before anything else!!!!! | ||
| Dongalonga |
Ok I see you save the file then drag it to WinOls, but the Race ECM data on Xopti site is for a 12S. The Race Map on the site Hammer71 gave me seems to be specifically for my bike, but what do I do with that file. It has text divided by Reihe 1-6. | ||
| Dongalonga |
Hammer I sent you an email. | ||
| Xoptimizedrsx |
you guys be carefull the 03 ecm's are different than the newer ecm's new ecms ib310,gb231,ib350 the old ecms are cb050,and cb060 you can not burn the eprom file of a gb to a ib or to the cb. the only one you can is a cb050 (stk) and cb060(race) copying the timing and fuel is ok but it does not get you the back door core files that make the ecms work different. all these file are not seen in ecmspy. if you burn a race ecm eprom file to a stock ecm it has and can mess up the ecm permanently and cause it not to reburn back correct stock data every time. then you have to buy a new ecm and start over. you are best to just tune the fuel to the bike on your own as all the bikes fuel tables are different. you have to adjust each map to the bike and find the afv. then find the core files and datas that are the key to making if run where the afr allows it to be in the power with out correcting the afv. there is a few things in ecmspy that are different that you think. with time you will see and find the answers. no two bikes have the exact same map numbers they may have the same scale values but different numbers. mike | ||
| P47b |
Mike Thank you for that. That explanation does allot for me. I was doing that with a 03. Works great for about 60 miles. Then it will start up with no mid range power and throw a code or two and check light comes on. Can you tell me which stock number on the ECM for a 9 I can switch over to a Race for a xb9? I have an extra stock ECM around. (Message edited by p47b on April 04, 2009) | ||
| Hammer71 |
What he said. I looked at that and decided to buy one of mikes maps instead of screwing something up beyond repair. Walked me through the process and all is good. Bike ran great before and made good power. Bike is now a freakin animal power hits like a freight train, spools up much faster and is just plain awesome. Thanks again Mike And Dongalonga email replied to. | ||
| P47b |
Never mind I reread the previous again. | ||
| Id073897 |
if you burn a race ecm eprom file to a stock ecm it has and can mess up the ecm permanently and cause it not to reburn back correct stock data every time. then you have to buy a new ecm and start over. The EEPROM can be written to independent of the data content, even when filled with random data. There's no impact of EEPROM data to the ability to write to it. The ECM's firmware is not contained in the EEPROM data and can not be changed, corrupted or overwritten by writing to it. ECMs can not be destroyed by writing wrong data into EEPROM. CB050/CB060 share the same data size and layout. CB060 comes in stock and P&A flavor, same as GB231. IB310 is stock only. P&A data written to a stock ECM makes this a P&A version, stock data written to a P&A ECM makes this a stock version. Stock and P&A data are interchangable within the same ECM type (CB060 or GB231). no two bikes have the exact same map numbers they may have the same scale values but different numbers. I don't understand this. | ||
| Xoptimizedrsx |
gunter i have had about 10 people now with a ib310 try to burn the gb231 data to there bike and start it. as you know that does not work the fan comes on act's weird and all. then when they try to burn back the stock data it goes in but the ecm never acts correct. it is always keeping a cel as well as the fan wont stop wont run. i have had one of those ecms sent to me and i could not fix it. the ecm had to be replaced. it doen't happen every time but will do it and i cant explain why. but they will jam up. a few guys on this site have had it happen they replaced there ecm and did the flips correctly and all was good. the scale is the fuel value a particular setup likes. the curve stays close to the same but one will like over all more or less fuel from one bike to another. your program is awesome and i wish i could add the new features we use in hex data to it as well as the strings to get all the 08 ecms in it as well as 08 1125r data. till then if ever i'll keep doing it with burn changes only and my data sheets that tell me what is where. works great. so far up to 2009 all bikes mike | ||
| Id073897 |
it doen't happen every time but will do it Under which conditions did this happen? Obviously it's not dependent on the data alone, otherwise it would happen every time. As far as I can see, in all these cases data of a different ecm type was written to it, not race data into a stock ecm of the same type. | ||
| Xoptimizedrsx |
the cases where the ecm messed up was when they took the ib 310 ecm and tried to burn the gb231 p&a data to it. it messed up and didnt run. then when they tried to burn the ib data they saved back to it. it still didnt work anylonger. the ecm would read ok but not work ok. sorry for not having an answer to how or why it will do that sometimes. but it has happened. mike | ||
| Turk |
So someone tried to take a stock ecm, burn buells p&a race ecm data into it and needed to buy a new ecm? Maybe if they just would have bought the P&A ecm like they should have in the first place... | ||
| Id073897 |
So someone tried to take a stock ecm, burn buells p&a race ecm data into it and needed to buy a new ecm? No. Someone tried to burn data from another ecm type to it. This is the same as putting a windows installation CDROM into your car's cd player and then expect some music. | ||
| Xoptimizedrsx |
yes turk they did just that screwed up there ecms. being dumb and not reading how many post over the few years now on dont do this. long story short they still had to buy a new ecm. its just best to tune what you have. not to take data from one to the other trying to save a buck. when its going to need adjusted anyway to your bike. some of the things are different than you may think as you already know. mike (Message edited by xoptimizedrsx on April 05, 2009) | ||
| Turk |
Gunter, regardless of the mechanism that caused the issue, there is a very sweet irony in someone trying to pirate themselves a race ecm and still having to buy one anyway. Mike - I think we finally agree on something! | ||
| Id073897 |
Anyway, this issue will be fixed in the next version of ecmspy. | ||
| Petebueller |
... the next version of ecmspy That's good news. I don't want to move up a model until my bike can be tuned.} | ||
| Dongalonga |
I got everything fixed. Set the Static timing, TPS, and AFV and the bike runs great now. | ||
| Blacklightning |
perfect, so when are we going to ride? | ||
| Dongalonga |
next time its nice out. | ||
| Xoptimizedrsx |
YES WE DID!!!! it only took two years but we did it. guess the world now ends.lol donga glad you got it. also turk i now have the dyno at full time as well as more tools to read the data. sad part is i now help race teams so data sharing has halted on new tricks. you know its who can do best and not cheat but get the deepest in the gray area. my bike will be up this summer at the track. Road Atlanta see you there in the pits with the wera races this summer. mike | ||
| Id073897 |
I don't want to move up a model until my bike can be tuned. Bugfixes only. | ||
| Sifo |
Gunter, Wasn't there an issue with Megalog Viewer that was getting a fix. Was that just with narrow band O2 sensors or was that also wide band? Do you know if that has been addressed? BTW - Thanks for all you have done. If it wasn't for you I would have gotten a Speed Triple instead of the Buell! I'm not sure if you are aware of the mark you've made in the world!  |
