| Author | Message | ||
     Jraice |
Coming from a 2005 Yamaha R6, want a bike with good torque but made to ride in the 0-90mph range, vs. the R6's 60-170mph range. Also want a more comfortable upright bike, with handle bars and I like a super flickable bar that requires minimal bar input. I really like the Scg over the Ss in terms of feel, look, everything. I also like the shorter wheelbase. Sound like the way to go? Is the cg's suspension travel to short? Also, I like the bucket feel of the cg's sheet but I prefer the Ss's seats feel, its almost like a nice aftermarket gel seat (compared to the Scg or my stock R6 seat atleast). I am sure the Scg is more comfortable then my R6 but still it can be better. What other seats will fit on a 2009 XB12Scg? I have heard a City X will, and I hear its similar to the Scg in that it has a little bucket for your butt but is softer. Also I think the 2008 S model will fit but its almost like the Ss (flat, taller and very soft). Is that accurate? So yeah, just want reinforcement that the Scg is the bike for me over the Ss and also whats a good seat to swap (possibly at the time of purchase, so I dont have to buy a second seat, just swap at dealer) for a little more height, but not much, and a little more cusion. Thanks! | ||
| Troopshipberlin |
I have a 2007 scg, completely stock. Have never had any problem with the suspension travel being too short. I adjusted the suspension the way I like it and it's fine. I've ridden it up to four hours at a time with the stock seat and never felt it was too hard. | ||
| Jraice |
Thanks! Sounds good, and your happy with the decision to get the Scg over the Ss? If it was just an S I'd be more likely to think about it but I just think given what I want (very sensitive low input handling) the shorter wheelbase of the Scg is the way to go. I am sure the Scg is more comfortable then the R6 so for now I guess maybe Ill just buy it stock, unless the dealer is totally up for swapping it with a City X. My dad rides a Road King, so far we just do 4-5 hour rides throught he mountains but I want to be able to keep up with him (comfort not pace) on the longer rides that we may do in the future. I am very excited to make the switch from R6 to XB12Scg  . Just have to find someplace that will let me test ride one before I can put any $$$ down! | ||
| Dynasport |
Harley dealers, at least the ones I have dealt with, are more willing to let you test ride a bike than any other brand I have dealt with. I would be very surprised if a dealership didn't let you take a test ride. | ||
| Jraice |
My dealer only has a demo of a CR1125. They also wont let anyone under 21 test ride (I am 17). I did test ride a 1200 Sporty and a V-rod at a different Harley dealer (paperwork said you must be 18, he saw my license, didnt say anything so I signed it and didnt mention it  ...) Their is another dealer in my area, a little farther then the first buell dealer with the 21 policy that apparently has one of every model around to demo so Ill see if I can keep them from asking my age . The local dealer said if I had to ride one before I bought it I could do all the paper work so the bikes mine, ride it and if it just didnt work bring it back and tear everything up. Not a fan of this idea, I'd rather ride a dedicated demo bike that I can "get on" a bit and really see how the motor feels, without killing my own personal brand new motor. Also I just got back from LA, guy down there said I could've test road his demo City X or XB12R! Of course I didnt bring my license that day, (wasnt driving). BLAH! Anyways, Ill either try the second dealer with all the demo's or find a local buell rider willing to trade for a short ride (I ride an R6, I am sure someone would be intersted in seeing what a super sports like). One guy about three hours away in Sacramento offered but I would like to find someone closer if possible (I am near San Jose, CA if anybody is in the area with a buell similar to the one I want). I am positive the chassis etc... is going to be what I want, or a great improvement over the R6 (upright, still great handling, a bit more easy to flick around at lower speeds), I just need to be sure I can get used to the lumpier motor. Was not a huge fan of the Sporty 1200 I road, but then again this motor has a similar feel but is much more powerful and in a lighter more solid chassis. | ||
| Froggy |
If possible check out an 08 S. I personally don't like the suspension of the SCG, but its not built for me. As for the seats, the SCG, S, SX, SL all are interchangeable, the SS and STT are not as longer frame rails. | ||
| Jraice |
Dealer only has 09's and thats the way I want to go... What exactly is it about the Scg suspension that you were not a fan of? Compared to most japanese bikes, including mine, the front fork suspension, visually, appears to have the same travel, the S and Ss is MUCH longer travel then my R6. | ||
| Froggy |
From the demo I rode, it was too stiff, not enough travel. Then again I am used to the SS that has a bit more travel, and the X which is significantly more than that. The X I could hit a dead deer on the highway and not notice, the SS I would feel it, the SCG would require me to have spinal surgery. Oh yea the seat is horrid too, but thats the easiest thing on the bike to change. I rode a 04 R6 briefly, a friend of mine bought it and I helped him pick it up to get it home, after the 30 minute ride I wanted to kill whoever designed the granite seat on that!  | ||
| Jraice |
Coming from an R6 though would I hate the Scg's suspension that much? I have to imagine the R6 is atleast as stiff, if not stiffer. Perhaps it just didnt work for you because you were used to an, ahhh... "adventure style" bike suspension. And yeah I cant say that its a horrible seat! Its leaps and bounds over the old honda MB5's seat... But I think even the crappy Scg seat will be an improvement over the R6's (plus its more upright) and Ill likely try out a few at the dealer whenever I buy the Scg, maybe I can get them to send me home on day one with a City X or S seat (probalby City X, I hear it has the bucket of the cg just more cushion). | ||
| Xb12mel |
I've put more then 15k miles on my Scg in less then 2 years, my longest ride was almost 500 miles to Buelltoberfest in Northern GA. It's a great bike. Usually when I go out for the typical weekend ride with the boys, we're usually stopped for the cigarette/butt break, I'm the only one on a Scg and I'm the only one not in need of the break. But then again, maybe I just like a little abuse. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
Jraice, I'm in Pittsburg I know that's a little ways away but if you want I'll stop by the local dealer and ask if they would let you test ride and see what kinda deals they have going. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
or you could call Daisy @ Devil Mntn 925-427-2700 Tell her Thomas with the scg snet you. BTW I love mine and there's lots of seats that will fit. | ||
| Jraice |
Where is Devil Mntn? Yeah I want to try Livermore first but I am open to ideas. I dont mind making it into a day ride on the R6 to test ride a bike! Not sure exactly how far Pittsburg is... Sounds like the suspension wont be a problem unless your used to very long travel (which I am not). I have the Scg as my backround . The look is growing on me, never was a huge buell fan but with all the black on the 09's its very sexy. I am way against the all black, too plain for me and I am leaning towards red. Blue is very unique but I love red/black (R6 is mostly black with red accents). | ||
| Brumbear |
I am a heavy duty dude so I like the 43mmfront end versus the thought of a 41mm tube | ||
| Jraice |
Which model is 41mm? | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
Pittsburg is between concord and antioch. I would call and make sure they will let you test ride it. If not P.m. me and I might be able to help. | ||
| Jraice |
Thanks! If livermore doesnt work out Ill do that... I would call but I dont want to come out and say I am 17 can I do a test ride. Another local harley (no buell) dealer let me test ride bikes, as I said, but their policy was 18. They may have let it go, or not noticed. Either way my dad gives them a lot of business and they were very relaxed about the entire process because of that. So I may call and ask the policy but dont want to say "BTW, I am only 17" as maybe they will let it slide, if I sound interested enough (in all honesty Ill likely buy at the closest dealer, Fremont, as they are 30min's away and seem very pro buell). | ||
| Brumbear |
The scg has 41 mm front tubes verses the 43mm on the s and ss models | ||
| Froggy |
The 08+ XB12X has 47mm. Be glad that you might even be able to ride so young. I am 22, and to demo KTM you need to be 25. Needless to say I was upset, and knew it was too keep the squids out, but they lost a potential sale. I am glad a RC8 got wrecked that weekend! | ||
| Brumbear |
I just noticed that wow thats some strength there the cr also has 47mm hmmm this cr deserves another looking over maybe down the road abit ya never know. How is the carbon thingy working out Froggy ? | ||
| Froggy |
Haven't touched it!  | ||
| Htekwo |
Sounds like you are trying to make a case for the Scg vs Ss. You are ignoring the advice you seek. In short, put looks aside! The Scg is for shorter, lighter riders who are not going to overwhelm the suspension. The Ss is for taller heavier riders who gan get the suspension to work. I have my Ss suspension setup to almost be as flickable as my wifes Scg and it's much more stable at speed than hers! They make different bikes for a reason and it's not just for looks! | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
Jraice, how long have you been riding? What year is your r6? | ||
| Jraice |
2005 R6, second bike. Had to keep count but I believe I am going on somewhere around 5,000-6,000 street miles, starting riding last year. | ||
| Gunut75 |
If your a bigger person, get the Ss. If your smaller, get the Scg. Sorry, but I scoped your profile! TOP SPEED ON 2 WHEELS.....85??!!!......WITH AN R6??!!! You dont expect me to believe this do ya?  Just razzin ya a bit! I took my buddy's Busa for a ride, and had a hard time keeping that bike under 85. IMHO I think you will like the Buell more. But thats just me. | ||
| Jaimec |
Skipping everything but the subject line here, but the choice is between two bikes built for the two extremes: The Scg is built for shorter than normal people. The Ss is built for taller than normal people. Basically, that's really what you should consider. "What should I buy? A ladder or a shovel?" | ||
| Guell |
Personally i would get the ss. Only because the 09 ss has pretty much the stt suspension, and i can toss that urban assualt lookin seat on it. | ||
| Froggy |
Do yourself a favor and test ride everything in the Buell lineup, you never know, you might go home with an 1125CR Also, the Uly handles just as good as the Lightning. There is nothing like passing a GSXR while loaded up with 3 hard bags and on one wheel. (Message edited by Froggy on February 25, 2009) | ||
| Jraice |
Haha yeah really it is around 85mph, maybe 90 for a split second. The temptation is there to go faster but Im usually riding with my dad and even alone dont like to speed, a ticket on the bike means I dont have a bike for the next 5-6 years (only 17 years old), already have a 39mph over the limit ticket in the car as well... And the Ss's suspension may be the way to go but I like that the Scg's shorter, the S would probably be the perfect bike but its not available in 09, which is the only year Ill buy. I still think the Scg is the way to go, I have heard mostly good things about it, it looks better, fits me really really well and it may not have the travel in the suspension that the Ss has but I am sure its still great. Still though guys, keep trying to convince me to get an Ss . You never know... | ||
| Jaimec |
Ride them both. Make up your OWN mind. |
