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Thepup
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

anyone had any trouble with stalling while riding in the rain
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Viros
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yup, many of us, mine died once and just last month I got to experience the riding on one cylinder syndrome while riding in the rain.

My only real complaint in 17K miles....

hmmm I wonder if the factory knows about it?

or even yet anbody on a 12 every have a problem???


edited by viros on January 13, 2004
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Xb9
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've also experienced it on my XB9R, I sprayed some ignition sealer on the coil and wires and it seemed to have taken care of it. Poor quality wires??

edited by xb9 on January 13, 2004
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yup. first time it happened I had 200miles on it.
fix:I dont ride in the rain
plus, too much polished crap to clean
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check the CHT sensor wires for bared terminals and/or rubbed through wires. I think this sensor is the culprit in a lot of these water-related rough running/stalling problems. If something causes that sensor to short to ground, the ECM thinks the engine temp is something like 600 degrees and it kicks in the limp-home mode. Mine has done this to me a couple times, only when riding in really heavy rain (never after washing, like some have experienced), but I've never gotten around to checking this sensor. Will when I come home in April, since I'll be tearing half the bike apart anyways...
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Downundabueller
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where is the cht sensor?
I,ve never heard of ignition sealer what is it?
I need to check both these have had the one cylinder thing happen on a coupla occasions, once in extreme storm and another time in moderate rainfall, I had presumed i was ingesting water through the air intake. Not correct it seems.
I ride whenever i want and dont rush home because there is a chance of rain or clouds are coming.So this is critical to me.
Yes i get wet, but its only water.
Yes i spend alot of time cleaning it.
Oh well the price of pleasure.
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Sparky
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I put dielectric grease (Permatex ignition tune up grease) sparingly on the inside of the spark plug boots to help seal around the spark plugs, and bonded the outside of the plug wires to the boots with silicone sealer/adhesive. So far no problems in rain riding. I did notice the CHT wire rubbing the valve cover a long time ago, so I put a couple wraps of electrical tape there.

The stock spark plug boot doesn't fit tight enough on the plug's insulator IMHO. I found some hot rod shops plug boots fit REAL snug so I had them make me a set using Jacobs plug wires. They worked well but their resistance was too low, around 150 ohms, which I think wasn't matched too well with the rest of the ignition system and may have started affecting the speedo, so I put the stockers back on temporarily until I can get another set of wires made with compatible resistance.
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Update the plug wires to the better 04 version. Should fix it.
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Viros
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody got part numbers for the 04 plug wires?????

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Azfirebolt
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got a new 12R. Ridden in heavy rain quite a few times. No problemos...
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Gootch
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

04 plug wire numbers
Front & rear #Y0204.02A8A same part number.
Use these on XB9's and XB12's

Stuart Wells, Deeley's House of Buell, Vancouver Canada.
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Downundabueller - the CHT is the sensor that's in the top of the rear cylinder. You have to remove the airbox to get a look at it.

Take some dielectric high temp grease and fill in any non-sealed connection cavities you can find up in there. There are a surprising number of non-sealed connectors on bikes, even though the entire electrical system is 'exterior'.
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Grufflie
Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My '04 XB 12 conked-out after a little dash threw a down pore the other day. Next day it had dryed out and was fine again. But you can bet I'll be giving the electrics a damn good looking at!

Gruffs
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