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Ripdog28
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone else have an unusually hot Right side frame? What i am talking about is doing 75 and still feel the heat on your thigh. I know when you stop it can get hot but some days it feels way to hot. About half the frame on the right feels way hot.
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Bartimus
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my '08XT gets VERY hot on the right side of the frame. It really sucks...
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yep, we all do. you can try heat-wrap, or just get a straw....and suck it up!
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Ripdog28
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dont mind the heat on my leg as much as i worry about Eng performance/problems. A hot frame=hot Fuel, Hot fuel=crappy performance. One thing i have noticed is some fuels make it run hotter. My normal gas station it runs fine. On the rare occasion that i have to hit a 7-11 gas station like i did yesterday and it gets crazy hot. My guess is that they do not have the same Octane so it runs hotter.
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Ustorque
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

nature of the beast....get a good pair of riding pants and it will make all the difference in the world.
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Skinstains
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XB's I have a right side scoop (like the left one) on you don't notice heat at all. The ones I have yet to equip with one (read as can't afford) are annoyingly hot.
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

texas heat & traffic.. I feel it, it was so unbearable that I put it in neutral and walked it, got some people offering to help get gas, lollz!!!

The right side of the frame is thinner than the left, plus (obviously) the headders are on that side too.... there isnt much that you can do
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Kazz1949
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check out Odie's web site. He makes heat barriers. I ordered a set. Have not received them yet.
Bob
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Jeffroj
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My right side frame has gotten so hot that it has melted a hole in 2 seats!! I live in Atlanta, traffic can get pretty bad here, and so can the heat when you're moving about 1 mile every 5 minutes. But I still rode it with a smile, you just have to suck it up until you're used to it.

The reason it got so hot was because of an intake leak on the rear cylinder, after that fix it has ran a lot cooler. You might want to check if it's getting that hot.

Synthetic oil helps it run a little cooler also.

(Message edited by jeffroj on January 13, 2009)
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Smiley1eye
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 03:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I may have found the solution to the right side heat issue. My bike puts out no heat. (OK, some, its an engine. But nothing like what you guys are still dealing with)

Ceramic headers from American Sport Bike, Jet Coated Muffler, RSS, HD snythetic. Also running a little richer than EPA. (but thats very recently)

Put all that together and it's actually COLD now. Got some of the thermal barrier from American Sport Bike, but I actually don't need it.

So I guess I have the coolest Buell around.
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Dongalonga
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My 08 was so hot when I initially bought it that it was actually burning my inner thigh. I would notice some discomfort when riding and when I got off it was beet red and hot to the touch.

After I changed the oil at 500 miles with Mobil 20W50 Mobil V-Twin Syn Formula and wrapped the headers. The bike ran alot cooler.

Brought the bike in for the 1000 mile service, and of course they use crap oil. The bike ran noticeably hotter. Not as bad as before and that is probably because of the wrapped headers.

So, from what I have seen some form of header wrap or coating and good syn oil can make the difference between a bearable and unbearable Buell.
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Ripdog28
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I run the Screamin Eagle Synthetic. I will be looking at the rear cylinder for a leak. This morning leaving for work. I warmed it up for a min. Drove about 1.5 miles to the freeway. Got up to 80 or so and my Eng light came on and went off after 1/2 mile. Kinda scared me but did not come on again. will see what happens on my way home.
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Zoedogg1
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Like stated above, the heat is just the way the bike is. It'll cook you if you if it gets the chance to. I have the heat barrier under my seat from Special Op's and my air box. I also have my pipes wrapped and it is still a hot ride, but not even as close as it use to be. I think I'll start using a syn. oil this year to see if it helps. I do get the high heat engine knocks in mid summer also, which is also just the way the bike is. Or so I've been told by many a people. I also add an octane booster to my fuel, and it seems to help ALOT in summer heat with performance.
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Skinstains
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also disabled my flash to pass and wired the fan to the switch so I have fan on as long as I hold the switch down. Pretty smart huh ? It is great in NYC traffic in summer.
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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do the 12's run hotter than the 9's? My 05 xb9 doesn't get hot like i'm reading here. If it's in the 60's, my fan doesn't even run when shutting it off(assuming I wasn't sitting in traffic or riding really slow). The fan will run if the temp is over 170*c at key off, but 160, it doesn't run. This is approximate temps I've noted while data logging. On one data log it got up to 205*.
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Dogdaze
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Disable the 'Flash to Pass'?

Heck, when my fan kicks in it gets more attention than the 'f to p' ever did!
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Juniorkirk
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

on this subject, where is the best place to buy header wrap? does American Sport Bike sell any? been thinking about wrapping them for awhile now, but just havent been able to find a place that sells any. i'm already gonna be riding down to American Sport Bike and buying some heat barrier this friday at some point
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Smiley1eye
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After riding the 12 and the 9, the 12 does get hotter than the 9 ever did. But I think there's a difference between the 9s too.

I have the XB9SX and it runs cool. Recently I took a few rides on an XB9R and that thing was really really warm!
I think the synthetic helps a bunch. All the other stuff helps too.

But nothing else makes the difference like that RSS!
I've read all the arguments, I've heard all the sides, and I'm of the opinion that it is the best thing I've done to the bike. I even went back to the stock scoop on the right side, and the heat came back! I went straight home and put it back on.

Want to experiment? Rig one up using cardboard and some duct tape. Take it for a spin and see the difference before you drop the bucks on one.
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Dongalonga
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My 03 9s was nothing like my 08 12R heat wise. The 9s was probably the most comfortable sporty bike...makes me wish I kept it.

Heat wrap can be found here:
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=he ader+wrap&searchinresults=false&Ntk=KeywordSearch& DDS=1&N=700+115

I suggest getting 50ft of 2" wrap. That way you will have plenty in case you make mistakes.
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Boliver
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Internal combustion engine that is air cooled equals hot legs and frame.Same bike in California must seem really hot.I wonder why them fellers up north are complaining about it though.I live in the South (Oklahoma) and my bike does get warm but I think it is supposed to.You might want to get yourself a big Goldwing if you're looking for comfort.I have my header wrapped and the $230.00 right side scoop.It still gets warm on my legs.I think if I lived in California I could stand the heat because I would be too busy riding.btw: Auto parts store anywhere has header wrap.I special ordered mine in black.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

does American Sport Bike sell any?
Yup, here:
http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/16104.html
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Boliver
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah I paid $39.00 for my Fifty foot roll.
Looks like American Sport Bike is $60.00 for 25 feet.Happy shopping...........
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Dongalonga
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Boliver you have an S and its an 05. The R runs hotter fro some reason and the 08+ run even hotter. I had an 03 9S and never had any heat issues. This mostly concenrs the R especially 08+ 12Rs
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Ripdog28
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

think i will get some wrap soon. I was mainly concerned about it becase after 5700 miles it jst turned on. i never had heat problems before. I should be fine though.
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Nillaice
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i got a roll of 2" wrap sittin' up in my attic, but i can tolerate the heat.
PM me if anyone's interested
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Skinstains
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I forgot where I got my 2" wrap, but I did get a 100' roll of white (because it was cheaper) and just hit it with barbecue paint.
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Simple
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Skinstains, does your fan also turn on at the OEM settings?
i like that idea of the flash to pass, good thinking.
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Boliver
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dongalong,
You have an R that runs hotter?How can that be when it is the same bike except cosmetics? You may have something wrong with it.If the newer bikes run even hotter then it sounds like H/D is not progressing in their efforts.You know the old saying we are SUPPOSED to learn from our mistakes.One guy even says his bike has melted two seats.
My money is TOO hard to come by.I'm affraid I'd be selling that bike or learn how to keep it moving.Kinda reminds of people setting in traffic with the A/C on.I don't know maybe I baby my bike too much.
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Saratoga
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you are dumb enough to wear shorts, yes it's too hot.

With bare minimum jeans on in 90* weather in the dead of summer sitting in rush hour traffic with the cooling fan blazing on high here in FL, the heat on my leg has never been an issue.

95% of the time I'm wearing a pair of textile pants over whatever pants I have on and can't even feel the heat then. It is nice on a cool day like today however (high 30's).

(Message edited by saratoga on January 15, 2009)
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Dongalonga
Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Im telling you the 12R runs hotter than the 9S. I have owned bot and I know it for a fact. From what I have heard the 08s run even hotter. I must not be as tough as you guys or maybe I just don't care for unecessary infliction of discomfort. It is a cheap and easy fix to wrap the headers. Using Syn is better for the bike let alone it helps bring operating temps down slightly. If you want to be a big bad tough guy fine, but I prefer to be as comfortable as possible. Oh and I was wearing khaki or denim when I noticed the red spot. I didnt say I was burned badly, but it sure wasnt comfortable.
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