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Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi there, Im working at the best possible job I can think of being a pizza boy using my parents car. The have given my older sister a car when she moved out, my middle sister also has a car from my parents (two which she crashed drunk), and im pretty sure in going to get this one, so im set on some reliable transportation. I go to school at the local college, and doing pretty good with a 4.0. I see tonns of bike, well not tonns, but they ALL grab my attention.
It took me some time to figure out what this one bike was that I saw in the school parking lot, it was a red and black firebolt, really awesome looking bike that stands out from the rest. No need to tell you how much I have in my bank but I can get it.
I was looking at the buell website, and there are alot of cool bikes to choose from, Im 6foot stronger than averaged built. I really like the firebolt, would that be a good bike to get for my first?
any recommendations?
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is no reason to post annony.
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing wrong with it being a first bike....AS LONG as you RESPECT it and don`t be a clown on it... Take a riding course and ride it within the speed limits, thats to say for any Bike you get...!

I want to be able to chat with ya down the road here and NOT to hear you went off the road etc etc... Get my Point...!
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Ustorque
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ah yeah
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wait, you want to deliver pizza on a Buell?



Bet it wheelies easier, tho the 1125R could probably keep it warmer!
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Barnyard
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My Ss is my first bike and man I'm so glad I got one. So far it has been a great first bike. If i was you I would go and Get it to marrow. You don't know what your missing until you get on one. TAKE THE RIDING COARSE!! I doped my bike the 2 day i had it because of a stupid. don't be stupid go to the class before you ride. I was just excited and wanted to ride before I took the class. 5 days after I got the bike. I took the class and wow I was doing everything wrong. Good luck and drive safe.
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Barnyard
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That pic is from Spain. there are 1000's of those things running around there
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Ziptop
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what course?
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Ziptop
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh hi, im the pizza boy
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Ziptop
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

im talking on another forum and they're treating my like shit, they all say im just another person thats going to raise their insurance
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Xb9ser
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My daughter got her mc endorsment this summer. I told her she had to take the riders edge course before she rode. She learned a lot and thanked me afterward. She rides a gs500 and my buell. Just be careful and have fun!!
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Andymnelson
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Zach, welcome to the insanity!
There is no reason that you can't buy a Firebolt as your first bike, but like Barnyard said:
1) Take the Motorcycle Safety Course and
2) Respect the bike and its power, the minute you think you've got it mastered is the minute before you crash.

In regards to #1: they offer them at most commmunity colleges. Go here to find one, and TAKE IT! Seriously, the best $$ you'll ever spend:
http://www.msf-usa.org/

In regards to #2: A fellow BadWeather biker was recently in a similar scenario to yours: 19 years old, first bike, etc. He clearly did not respect the power or the experience and skill that it takes to ride a bike safely. Best we can figure he rode for about 10-12 days before he crashed..and died. Seriously, please regard his mistakes as a warning- if we learn nothing else from Matt's death, let it be this. Also, please read through this post and take it to heart it has sobered many of us:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/417713.html?1228236330

Welcome to Buelldom, ride safe and have fun!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zach - my first bike was a '99 Buell M2 Cyclone. The words about respect are serious - these bikes have enough torque to pull the front end off the ground before you know it, and enough brake to pop the back end up just as quick.

Take the course (check with your community college or with your state DMV for details). Learn the rules. Learn the bike. WEAR YOUR GEAR. It sounds like work...but in order to continue to have fun on motorcycles, you have to do the work first. I'm a prime example - my first was the '99, I ride daily (no kidding), but this summer....something happened. Don't know what - my brain hit the 'pause' button and stopped recording for 12 days - but I ended up in a wreck, shattered both legs among other various injuries, and spent August learning how to walk again on my brand new titanium-filled legs. It's been less than fun. I'm lucky to be here (I did manage to turn a fullface helmet into a 3/4 in the wreck). BUT. I spent four hours riding my Ulysses today, did some work on my S1W, and put the tall windshield on my S2. I still ride, and I'll never give it up : )

Also, go to a dealer and sit on the bikes. The 'bolt may be a little agressive for a bigger guy, lots of weight on your wrists and a pretty good bend to your knees. The Lightning models are a little more upright - the bars are higher and farther back, the pegs are a bit lower, your body is a little more natural. Don't worry - the 'bolt looks more agressive, but the Lightnings (except the XB9SX) have the same 103-hp powertrain. All depends on what's comfortable for you.

Welcome to the sickness : )
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would say get yourself a SV650, a friend of mine who's advise is paramount really liked that bike.
The Ninja650R isnt a bad choice either IMO. Take the MSF course too!!!
Id say hold off on the firebolt and make it your 2nd bike , cuz you're going to waddup your first bike
A twin650 has plenty of power for a beginner to not get bored of, but not enough power to be overwhelmed and corrupted
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who's driving around Spain with a Texas license plate and why is that a US-style ph# on the pizza box? ; )

Oh, and get a SV650.
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Rah7777777
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"dentista" in the background......pretty sure thats Mexico!

Or maybe little mexico as us Texans folk sometimes call it :-)

(Message edited by rah7777777 on December 02, 2008)
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

there goes my insurance - sigh
EZ
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Doubled
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

^^^ kidding...
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Krassh
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 02:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Please spend the money and take a course before buying any motorcycle. Your local college you attend may even offer one.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 04:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You could deliver Pizza on the Buell, I know I COULDNT. there is no way I could guarantee that I would be anywhere specific in thirty minutes. Especially if there is a righteous dirt road that begs to be ridden.
Welcome to the boards. Get your endorsement, get some edumacation, come demo, you will find your favorite.
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Moosestang
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 04:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

insurance?
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Xbpete
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Take a course or courses..

I for one do not believe that a Firebolt is a good first ride,,, evidenced by young Matt no longer being with us and so many others whose testosterone dictated a bike with way more power than they could control.

Take a step back, it is not about "I can afford it" or "it looks cool" it is about the sheer joy of riding to live and living to ride.... the key word being LIVING!

Buy a Blast or the SV, learn to ride, get some miles on the seat. Then sell it and buy a 'Bolt, the machine is AWESOME and will perform like few others if one has the skills needed to put it through its paces, you need to DEVELOP YOUR RIDING SKILLS FIRST!!!
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ochoa0042 we take posting as Anonymous very seriously around here.
Maybe this ought to be in bold
(Valid reason required. Abusers will be exposed. If unsure, ask.)
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Xbmacon
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My Firebolt is my second bike.
I answer your question with, it depends are your personality. If you are a high risk taker and drive a car "fast and furious" for the adrenaline rush, NO do not buy a Firebolt as your first bike.
If you are more cautious about the risk you take (you calculate the risk), sure its a great bike.
I will say the words about the torque and braking are gospel.
A kid (21) in my city was killed yesterday doing a wheelie and ran off the road into a telephone pole.
If you wanna do wheelies and play, get a dirtbike and play where a fall doesnt hurt as much and you dont have to worry about other cars.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's all in the attitude you bring to the table. My 9R is my first street bike. I grew up riding dirt bikes and atv's. Riding on the road is a completely different beast. Respect the machine and the traffic around you and I believe you'll be fine.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know a girl that bought an XB9R for her first bike. Three years later she still owns her XB9R (I think it may be for sale) but now rides a 'Busa.
It has more to do with your skill level regarding common sense than it does what bike you choose.
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Rainman
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My first bike was a souped-up 1200 Sporty. I was 27, divorced and a very cautious and experienced driver and brought those habits to the bike. I had a few minor get-offs and finally took an MSF class where I learned how lucky I was to still be alive.

OK, that's my preamble. The bottom line is, if you buy the Firebolt or Lightning, understand you can get hurt and do everything you can to avoid it. Take the safety course. Practice on side streets. Get used to the throttle and don't do silly things. Do things for a reason. Don't suddenly find yourself in the wrong position at the wrong speed.

Read the postings that Matt made and see if you and he have the same attitude. If you do, buy something smaller or wait. If you are of more calm demeanor, you can probably get by with it, but BE CAREFUL.

The majority of serious wrecks occur in the first year or two of riding. Be prepared.

Oh, and welcome to the badness!
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B00stzx3
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dude, I'm 22 and my Firebolt I have now is my first bike. I've been riding less than a year. If you think, and not just think but KNOW you won't go wildin out, and you can control yourself, why not. I will tell you that it is easy as hell to pull the front end up without trying to, and the front brake is insane. If ya do, for the love of God take the MSF course and an in traffic course to. Practice riding on slower roads, don't take it on the highway until you've got a month or two under the belt. I've been riding and commuting every day for 5 months now and I'm STILL learning this bike. Its a bit like learning to drive a car in a Porsche. This bike will kill you, for real, if your not careful. Oh yeah, ALWAYS wear your gear. Chicks dig the gear anyways, so why not wear it.

It's especially cool having the Bolt because its so different, it gets attention to from everyone. You can pull up to a group of squids and totally drown out the weedwacker sound with the Sportster engine rumbling beneath you.

(Message edited by b00stzx3 on December 03, 2008)
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Rainman
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ooooh, Leather! The best reason to buy a motorcycle. Try wearing all leather into a bar on a hot day and you'll catch nothing but crap. Show up at the bar in all leather on a hot day riding a motorcycle and you're WAAAAAAAY COOOOOLLLL.

It's a great excuse to wear leather.

Oops, gotta run. They're coming to get me.
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P_squared
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on MSF training.

+1 on getting something else as your 1st bike (Blast, Ninja 250, etc.). You're going to drop it, ding it, abuse it. Might as well get something that won't break the bank during your 'learning process', as well as being easy to sell when you're ready to graduate to a bigger bike.

+1 on ATGATT. Buy the best & most comfortable gear you can afford for the riding you intend to do.

+1 on a 12R NOT being a 'beginner's bike.

Be patient, do everything you can to increase your odds of survival, then when you are ready, go ahead & get that 12R you want.

(Message edited by P_squared on December 03, 2008)
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