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Pete_nice
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hello new to forum and so far i love it , was hoping for pricing info on the bike of my dreams , 2009 xb12scg black like invoice or a good out the door price thanks
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Pete_nice
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

anybody?????
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Try asking in the sponsor's section
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Pete_nice
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks glitch
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Niceguyeddy
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got mine for 9700, it had valencia orange plastics and I managed to get them to buy the midnight black ones for me (got to keep both). Ofcourse the state got its share too!
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Pete_nice
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

9700 invoice right or out the door nice guy ed
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Niceguyeddy
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ended up around 10,4 after state tax and title ...so on. By far the best bike I've ever rode/owned!
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you know exactly what you want, why not just call around and see who will give you the best deal?
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Pete_nice
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 02:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have been and some place wanna charge all kinds of crazy charges one place wanted $11,700 i just want a fair deal and not get ripped off
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Desertlightning
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 04:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I paid $7600 for my '07 12Ss this past July. It was 1500 under invoice...so if prices have stayed the same, I'd say the invoice is going to be right around $9100.
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Pete_nice
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so if its 9100 invoice whats a good OTD price and do we really have to pay things like set up freight docs , by the way u guys are the BEST
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Jeffroj
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you think that you should have to pay for freight, I don't. You are buying the bike at the dealership, how it got there is not your problem.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you think you are NOT paying for freight you're mistaken.

You pay it when you buy milk, you pay it when you buy a car, you pay it when you buy a shirt.

In that case, if I were a dealer, I'd simply slap it on the price and add "freight included".

The dealer gets billed for and pays the freight.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you click your heels three times and repeat Theres no Bike Like Buell, they magically show up.
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Pete_nice
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so bottum line what should i shoot for BLACK 2009 xb12 scg out the door , give me details no mre then this or between this and this , i have clicked 300 times and nothing city
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If they give you a gnote off another color buy it and then replace the 3 or 4 pieces of platic if the dealer is that dumb but I doubt it
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Eboos
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pete_nice, your bike will cost $9995 plus freight and setup. The freight is $270, and the setup varies depending on which dealership you buy from.

How much should you shoot for? Well, how much do you want the bike. Instead of searching for the "best deal" for all time, find yourself a good dealership that will treat you well, and then work out your deal. You will probably feel better about it then.

There isn't a whole lot of markup on these bikes, and the dealership and it's personal are entitled to make a profit. Without a profit margin, you will not see Buells in any dealerships because the fairly low volume will not make up for the low margin.

Enjoy your new bike.
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Pete_nice
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks Eboos but i just want a fair deal and paying almost $12,000 for a bike that problably cost the dealer 9100 and with kick backs and other things even less , thats just not right and we both know that most sales people will try and get as much money as they can from a buyer if u let them and sure making a profit is ok but not a rape of a profit
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Eboos
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's why MSRP is there. Who cares what the dealer paid for it, that doesn't matter. The manufacturer sets the suggested pricing to protect both the customer and the dealer. This isn't the car business, and there aren't rebates that the dealership is hiding from you. The bike business is much more straight forward.

I am paid on flat rate for selling a bike. I don't get more or less regardless of the profit on the unit. Of course the dealership will want to hold as much profit as possible, but price gouging will only hurt them in the long run.

(Message edited by eboos on November 29, 2008)
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Gschuette
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pete, I bet you could find a new 07 that has been sitting on a dealer floor for a few seasons. That is what I did with my 06 Ss. I got it for $6500.

So if you can put up with the few part color differences that might be your best bet to get a good deal.
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Pete_nice
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gschuette i think thats what i will do , im not trying to pay for the dealers kid to go to college especially with this economy
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Happy1
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i'm picking up my midnight black 09 xb12scg sometime this december. what i paid was 11,400. worth every dollar.
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Pete_nice
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i am very HAPPY for you
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Eboos
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess you don't get it. The bike you are buying will not even be able to keep the lights on for the month. How many do you think they sell per year? As I said before, find yourself a good dealership, somewhere you will want to come back to again and again. Focus on customer service first, worry about the price then.
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Packrat
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with Eboos...what the dealer paid for a bike means nothing---you do not get to decide how much profit he makes! And like has already been posted, you pay for freight on EVERYTHING you buy..whether it's food, clothing, whatever. So what you have to decide is how much are you willing to pay for the bike you want. Finding out what others paid is certainly good for giving you an idea of the market, but in hte end, you will have to work out your deal with your dealer. I would ask guys where they got their bikes..how's the after the sale service? What are the hourly rates for service? Do they keep a good inventory or is everything ordered when needed/wanted?? If you drive 2 or 3 states away to save a few hundred dollars...don't expect to get the same level of service/satisfaction as the guy that is a loyal customer that does all his business with said dealership.. They are going to take care of their loyal customer base first!!! And you can't blame them for that. So, in the end you'll have to sit down and negotiate YOUR price for your bike. Establishing a good relationship with whatever dealership you decide on is going to, in the long run, pay much larger dividends than the few hundred dollars you might save on initial purchase. This is a lesson I have had to learn the hard way..
whatevr happens, I know you're gonna love it...Hey !! It's a BUELL !!!
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Oddball
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the part that gets to many is that the freight/prep for that snickers is not a broken out charge at the checkout. It's already rolled into the price. If the claim that it is not already factored in is true then they need to adjust msrp.

I haven't had freight/prep as an add-on for any bike I've purchased. When asked about price, if the salesman starts with msrp+freight+prep+(sometimes paperwork fees rivaling the freight/prep charges) I say ok thanks and walk right out the door. It looks more like extra padding thrown on so when someone wants to "negotiate" they can be generous and give that back and make full msrp.

Never cared for the offer/counter offer way of buying so I just hear what prices dealers want. If I like one I'll buy. If not, wait until I see one offering a number I'll accept.

To the op,
Price around, use msrp as a guide point and see where they all stand in relation to it. Make your decision from there.
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Eboos
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When you buy a snickers, you pay the price that the store charges. I don't care for the itemized pricing on the bikes either, but it is what it is.

I have customers coming into the shop everyday asking "oh how much is this one" and I when give them the asking price they say "I can get it at this place for such and such". This line of dialog does neither of us any good. There is no relationship being built, and more then likely, the dealership that is blowing their bikes out are the ones that you would not want to return to anyway. Quite frankly, you are setting your self up for a bad experience.
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Pete_nice
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if i dont get the bike im gonna ride on the back of Eboos , thanks for all the info u guys rule
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Eboos
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only if you hold on real tight.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow.
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