| Author | Message | ||
     M1combat |
What is the preferred method of adding an oil temperature and pressure gage on an XB? I would like the gages to be mounted along side of the tach and speedo. Thanks in advance. edited by m1combat on December 04, 2003 | ||
| Darthane |
You, who are so concerned with possibly voiding your warranty at a track day, are going to drill holes in your case so you can add a temperature/pressure sensor? All Buells already have a pressure sensor, but it's just a switch, not an analog signal. As for the temp sensor, why? You've got a CHT buried in there (that you could probably tap a gauge for), what do you need oil temp for? Bryan | ||
| M1combat |
Well, I didn't think I would have to DRILL anything... Just to look at...  . | ||
| Steelshoe |
Something to tinker with? looks cool? gadget freek? I'm guilty of all mentioned! | ||
| M1combat |
Exactly Steelshoe. I was thinking about trying to find some gage faces that I like better as well. Like something from a '67 Lotus 49B (well, that only goes to eight grand or so instead of fourteen or something). I would like to rotate the tach so that 6K is straight up too. | ||
| Oconnor |
M1- where the pressure sensor is, you can run a T and then run either a 2nd fitting for an electrical sender or a SS braided line to a mechanical guage. If your looking for accuracy go mechanical alll the way. The electrical will probably just peg depending on its placement in relationship to the oil pump. As for the temp I would T in the oil line for the oill cooler and run an electrical from there up. Or if you want to spend grand get a stack system. That would be my choice. | ||
| M1combat |
The inline temp from the oil cooler is more like what I had in mind. So you know who sells an inline unit? Or should I just buy a T with the proper threads for a common sending unit and do it that way? As far as accuracy, I don't care too much about the actual number it's giving me, as long as the temp/pressure range I get is reasonably close to the range the actual temp/pressure goes through. That way I can still tell how much of a drop/raise I get. What's a stack system? | ||
| Oconnor |
Go with earls for the fitting. Expensive but look cool, built tough and can order it in correct sizes etc. A stack system is...  | ||
| Oconnor |
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| Dynarider |
Actually for all the issues that the HD v-twin motors may have, oil pressure is usually not 1 of them. You would be better off installing a volt meter, more bikes die because of electrical drain & ultimate failure of the charging system then any oil related issues. | ||
| M1combat |
Good point, I'll put one of those in too . Thanks. I like those two stack units, but hate digital readouts... | ||
| Bud |
http://groups.msn.com/bueligans/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=8 or http://www.xborgforum.de/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=127 gr, B | ||
| Blake |
Damn you Dyna, more great advise. | ||
| Dynarider |
Pisses ya off doenst it?  Its true tho, you see these folks bolting on these ridiculous oil pressure gauges on HD's & Buells & when has anyone heard of an oil pressure problem on one? Besides that, once warmed up & at idle the HD bigtwins bearly even budge the needle. At idle they are only putting out a couple psi of oil pressure. I could see someone bolting on the gauge, & starts the bike up & see's 55psi. Rides it for an hr & comes to a stoplight, looks at the gauge & its reading 5 psi & freaks out. Takes it to the shop & has them tear the motor down only to find absolutley nothing wrong at all. Not to mention that by adding more oil lines, fittings, etc you increase your odds of getting an owner induced leak. | ||
| M1combat |
But they are cool... edited by m1combat on December 05, 2003 | ||
| Dynarider |
And thats why most posers add one. | ||
| M1combat |
 . You don't think it might have something to do with personalization? Maybe even just so they know what their toys are doing? Heck, maybe I'll just add one for the sole purpose of hearing you call me a poser if we ever meet and you see it. I'll put a sticker on it that says "Recommended by Dynarider". | ||
| M1combat |
BTW bud, I'd never really thought of an A/F mixture ratio gage... Good call. Maybe I'll put one of those on there too just for Dyna... Oh and Dyna... I live in the mountains... I would actually have a use for it. Does that give me even MORE poser points? | ||
| Fullpower |
M1, how bout a pair of pyrometers. twin exhaust temp guages. that would look cool. i have one for my diesel pickup, have not installed yet. maybe i will try it out on the sportster first: easier to get at the pipes. i'll let you know how it works.......ya poser...........dean | ||
| Dynarider |
And a rain gauge mounted on the front fender would look cool too | ||
| M1combat |
Rain gage... Yeah now were talkin... for those days I'm riding with my EYES shut... . OK, so now that I have an idea of what TYPE of gages I can use I'll have to figure out what I want. Probably just temperature, voltage, and A/F mixture. I guess I should come up with a fourth so it LOOKS even ... Maybe an exhaust temp gage with sending unit mounted at the bottom of the header just under the collector. I suppose two of them mounted just above that would be better though. Maybe I'll wire a toggle inline so I can switch between the two just for you Dyna . I'll call it a dyna-switch. . | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
A/F mix? why? its fuel injected. The A/F isn't going to move before your engine light comes on. Figureing an actual fuel level gauge on the otherhand... | ||
| M1combat |
Mostly because it's rare... I suppose if I did two sensors I could tell if one was running more lean than the other as well... | ||
| Bud |
M1combat, An other tip, Those gauge’s are not waterproof, I shorted my first one during a rain shower , So when I go out riding in the rain I put some bag’s over theme And I never cared for a oil pressure gauge , if it’s to low the light comes on and to monitor the pressure during riding for a drop in pressure ?? you should keep you eyes on the road And the oil temperature is a hard thing to measure, Where do you measure the temp. ?? in the oil-tank ? before the oil cooler ? feed line /return ? I commute my bike every day for 40 km and the last few weeks it bin 6-13 dg. C I have put an sock over my oil cooler and there’s still a lot off white goo in the front valve cover ( not in the rear one and the oil was 5.000 km in ) So it seems the oil didn’t get to working temperature at all, Btw, stripped my engine down and was very surprised that the second compression ring just barely is running in ( @ 25.000 km ) the cylinder bore is as new ( only very minor ware marks) hell the hole internals looks like new Big thumps up, I was saving up for a mayor engine overhaul @ 60.000 km being a very old engine design and has to put up with a foot heavy and frequently cruising at 100 m/h and seeing in every traffic light a drag strip kinda guy, Ill spend that money else Gr,B Ps. The engine light come on with every sensor out off range, but when changing with exhausts and intake mod’s it’s a good indication if the FI can coop with it and tells you when the right A/F value is learned |
