| Author | Message | ||
     Krueger08xb12s |
google Craig Jones. Wheelies are so easy on the short xb's.. They're easy to pop up and easy to balance...but they'll void your warranty so I never do them of coarse. | ||
| Audia6 |
Let me start by saying I have an 03 xb9s with K&N filter, exhaust, and race ecm. Get it in second gear at about 3k rpms while standing up on the pegs, let off it and then WOT it will stand straight up. I call this bouncing it up. You catch it when the front forks are on rebound and just gang it, no clutch necessary. (Optional: While in the air reach up with your left hand and grab the front fender.) This is by far one of the easiest bikes to ride a wheelie on I have ever road and this is my 11th bike in the last 16 yrs. The balance point is so easy to find, and it just feels comfortable. | ||
| Ghost_rider33 |
Audia, front pegs or rear? | ||
| Audia6 |
My screen name is Audi A6 (my car) Front pegs. As you're standing poke your a$$ out a little over the rear seat area (you'r not really leaning back a lot) and when you wack the throttle and pull back. BE CAREFUL!!!, and do at your own risk. Trust me it's going to come up so be expecting it! BE CAREFUL!!!! Maybe you need to practice sitting down first before jumping into stand ups. The same can be done sitting down. Just slide your butt back a little, let off the throttle, the nose of the bike will dip a little and when you feel if coming back up wack it WOT and pull back on the bars. I bring it up in second like this and then in the air shift to third, find the balance point and ride for miles. (Message edited by audia6 on October 10, 2008) | ||
| Audia6 |
Maybe this video will help.....You can almost see him push down on the bars a little and then WOT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd8gec6hdKM&feature =related (Message edited by audia6 on October 10, 2008) | ||
| California69gs |
(Message edited by california69gs on October 11, 2008) | ||
| Duff24 |
pin it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUeiIMWwv0c (Message edited by duff24 on October 13, 2008) | ||
| Trill |
LOL I have watched that so many times Duff Rox | ||
| Audia6 |
Duff, absolutely awesome video..... !!! I'd love to get someone to get a video of me like that. I just don't have the nutz to do it on a 4 lane HWY so someone can ride beside me. I'm to scared of getting busted by the popo. | ||
| Froggy |
Oh I just figured out my issue! I wear too much riding gear! :P | ||
| Audia6 |
In my opinion, you either got it or you don't. I've seen a lot of people "force" wheelies, practice day in and day out, yes they get better but they still don't have it. It's hard to explain. It's almost like a natural ability, if that makes sense???? i'm not implying that I'm great or anything but it's nothing to do a 1/2 mile wheelie. Especially since I got the Buell. It's much easier to wheelie then my 05 gsxr750. The buell seems to balance easier with less throttle. (Message edited by audia6 on October 14, 2008) | ||
| Duff24 |
Oh I just figured out my issue! I wear too much riding gear! :P LOL | ||
| Whitexc |
I agree with the part about you have it or you don't, cuz I don't!!! I'll do some crazy sh!t and can wheelie a bicycle forever but to wheelie the Buell is weird to me...I'm just a pansie I guess! It's like I know I am trying too hard and am going to pay for it so I don't try often. | ||
| Clutchless |
In my opinion, you either got it or you don't. I've seen a lot of people "force" wheelies, practice day in and day out, yes they get better but they still don't have it. It's hard to explain.+1 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2005-buell-fire bolt-xb12r_72365.htm check out this video on streetfire, is has lots of good info for your wheelie quest all you have to do is listen to the motor and watch his body movements. good luck, wear a helmet. and a cup, lol I put some crossroads bars on my bike to slow the wheelie process a little bit, I only weigh like 155 lbs. at 5'6 so I would get wheelies going into 4th on the e-way when I didnt expect or want one. now its all pushing down on the bars real quick like a forceful push-up. power wheelies are all timing, not how much throttle you pin back to "get it up" Clutching is depending on your throttle and rpms to "get it up" both balance points are just what they sound like, they are "balance points". problems I have with wheelies... 1. I forget to use my body, gotta get body english either front to back or side to side. Dont pucker your butt onto the seat but then again dont be flopping like a fish back and forth. 2. Speed is pointless. Faster wheelies are deceivingly easier to catch a balance point in because your using quite a bit of energy to go 50+ mph so the bike wont flip over and scissor you into the ground "as easy as it normaly would", but it still will do it. And another hard truth, going faster usually means strawberries and not bruises if you catch my drift... 3. The front suspension lifts the bike off the ground, dont depend on the rear wheel. Its hard to explain on paper, But if we had a wheelie class I'm sure it would be the first well understood concept in the class. When your forks push you up....you should be on the throttle before that. The trick is in the unloading of the front end. You load it hard by diving off the throttle or "chopping" which some people call it here, and while the suspension is at the most compressed you can get, thats when you need to introduce some torque. Thus pulling the bike up before the springs push you up, giving you quite a nice boost | ||
| California69gs |
I'm just to chicken. i SO want to do one, but my instinct is to lean forward every time i feel lift. i just don't got it. | ||
| Krueger08xb12s |
A few pointers for wheelies: 1. Stay calm, excitement = BAD!! 2. Start small. 1st gear "pops" sitting down. Stand ups create a lower balance point and can be easier on a crotch-rocket but are not the best on a lightning mostly because of the riding position. 3. Ride the "pops" out a little bit more each time you try. If you get too high, ease it down by letting off the throttle completely then giving some on the way down. 4. Keep the RPM's low! Especially on this V-twin! My '08xb12s does fine at 2k RPMs in first gear but keep it at 2-1/2 to 3-1/2 in 1st gear so you have room to ride it out...again, see step 3. it takes time. | ||
| Jeffroj |
My '08xb12s does fine at 2k RPMs in first gear but keep it at 2-1/2 to 3-1/2 in 1st gear so you have room to ride it out...again, see step 3. I can barely get my wheel to pop up at 4k in 1st gear. I'm not saying that you can't do it at 2k, I just do not understand why I can't even when it has more torque at 4k. The best I can do is about 5". Do I need to lose weight, 190, or is there something going bad on my bike? Throttle response or clutch? Am I right, wouldn't it be easier to lift the wheel at 4k rather than 3k, or am I completely wrong? | ||
| Boney95 |
Im 195 & I have no prob getting the front wheel off the ground. You are right, its much easier to get the front wheel up at 4k than 3k, using no clutch. I doubt there's anything wrong with your bike, your technique may be in question. | ||
| Ghost_rider33 |
I can clutch it up in second, but only if I'm cruising at about 2.5 to 3K. If the R's are any higher, it just won't come up as well. I'm not too sure how high I rev the engine with the clutch in, I try to look straight ahead when I drop the clutch. I don't get to the balance point, but I have ridden them out pretty good. First gear is no problem at all. It does seem to like the lower RPM's though. | ||
| Bueller83 |
Duff that stuff is awesome. I have a problem with my power wheelies period but have no problem with clutching it up in first and second any tips is it harder to power up the XB9S | ||
| Duff24 |
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think when he says "pop" he means using the clutch? Using the clutch is a hundred times easier than trying to power it up. Its all about timing. Keep your arms a little bent then when you pop the clutch, straighten them and lean back a little. I also have no idea what RPM I'm revving to either but I know its pretty high since I bring it up to BP right away. Sometimes I'm even on the throttle and brake at the same time, mostly when I'm riding slow first gear wheelies tho. (Message edited by duff24 on October 16, 2008) | ||
| Bueller83 |
Do you have rear hand brakes on either one of your bikes | ||
| Duff24 |
Only on the lightning cause I use it to stunt. I want one on the firebolt so I can do seat-standers on the hiway. I've got such a big sprocket on the lightning that it only does about 80mph (although my speedo says 130)! | ||
| Bueller83 |
Can you help me with the how to on putting a rear hand brake on mine | ||
| Krueger08xb12s |
Jeffro, my heart hit my ••••••• when I read your bike won't wheelie past 5" on a power! To correctly "power" a wheelie, you flip your wrist from closed throttle to about 1/3 open fairly fast. This throws the weight of the bike, and yourself, to spring load the forks and shift the weight to the back tire. I'm very honest when I say my bike and do it from 2K but I do use some arms and back...not too much to look ridiculous, but enough to let everyone know it's coming. flip a 1-2 motion with your wrist at about 1/4 seconds or so apart. By "pop" I mean bounce and bring down the front tire. No clutch, save that for later. 3.5K RPM should do it. | ||
| Krueger08xb12s |
haha BWB bleeps out A$$ now! | ||
| Froggy |
ass assembly line association ? Still works for me? | ||
| Krueger08xb12s |
Try •••••••....yeah apparently ass~hole is cursing but ass isn't! | ||
| Jeffroj |
The only times I can lift the front higher than 6", by letting off and wacking the throttle, is when the weather drops. I have no doubt that my technique may have something to do with it, but knowing how often I power wheelie everyday for the past 7 months, I am suspicious of something else being the problem. | ||
| Freezerburn |
An ass is a donkey, no? |
