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Kaese
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brian: I am anxiously awaiting the box on my front porch containing your Drummer, ECM and K&N filter.

Plan A:

1. Reinstall the pipe
2. Test the pipe with the stock ECM, just to see if it runs
3. Replace the stock ECM with Race ECM to see what happens
4. If it runs decent enough, take it to the Buell dealer to have them reset the TPS
(Run it at 3000-3500RPM for 3-5 minutes to let the ECM figure out what is going on, correct?)

When should I put in the K&N? (I put numerous – anywhere they would fit- 2 inch diameter holes in my air box)

Plan B:
If all else fails, and it doesn’t run decent enough to limp into the Buell dealer with either ECM, trailer the XB9 to the Buell dealer.

Am I missing anything here?

Thanks for holding my hand through this process,

Keith
(Still going through withdrawal and forced to ride the S2 Beast)
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Johnnyprocket
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 02:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, have you guys tried the larger diameter xb12 headers and your pipe on a kitted 9? More flow more go right?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

More flow more go right?
From what I understand you've got to have more to flow to get the more go...
In other words, If the engine isn't putting out more than stock, than the 12 pipe will hurt things rather than help.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

keith your on the right track. Man those are some big holes in that box. I did small 3/8th holes only because my testing showed the big holes created a lil loss. I went thru 3 box covers to get there. Then I tested the bike with the 12 air box cover and it works just a hair better than the 9 cover with holes in it and it was less loud. Good thing the air box covers are only $30 bucks or so.
also put the k&n filter in at the same time you put the pipe on it has much better air flow than the stock filter. plus it will run with the stock ecm but you won't notice all the gains you will with the race ecm and there is a dip in power down low with the stock ecm with the pipe.

as far as the 12 headers on the 9....bigger ain't always better its all about velocity.
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Oconnor
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buckingfubba-
Can you post any pics of the airbox holes you are talking about?
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I take pics I can

maybe I'll run out to my barn and do that real quick...be back
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$30 for an XB12 air box?
And it's better than drilling holes?
Is this right?
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Kaese
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I should have had you throw in a 12 air box also. Every time I have searched for one, always had to order it. Been meaning get one, but in the back of my mind, I'll find one in stock somewhere.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

heres some pics of the holes...but yes about $30 bucks for the 12 airbox cover and yes it works just as well.

keith order it it will only take a few days to show up
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do this on both sides
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and the front
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the barn...what the heck had the camera

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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

gotta name it right
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my new toy...last one
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Soo, am I hearing that doing the swiss cheese thing to the XB12R airbox on an XB12 will have no improvement?
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

don't know I haven't done it. It might ...try it and let us know. the venturi works great so maybe a lil more air will work great to. I just got sick of the noise emmiting from the holed airbox and the 12 box did just a hair better than the holes on the nine....
I am really getting old ...I am getting sick of random worthless noise
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Xb12r
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BRIAN
I CUT THE 12 AIR BOX FOR THE CIA AIR INTAKE AND LOST HP,THAT HAS TWO HOLES 4 BY 3 IN THE FRONT OF THE TANK COVER,
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah thats a problem...with holes in the tank cover and the box it is no longer pressureized very well....
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Buelluk
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will the multiple small holes work as well with the Race ECM and the Race Pipe
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yes they will but like I said if ya want the performance with out the noise get the 12 airbox cover...

adrian did you ever get my email?
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Leeaw
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is that $30 worth it for the 12 cover? Sounds cheap 'n easy.
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Kaese
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Alright, I'll order the 12 airbox.
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Oconnor
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK I am slow, but my mind is fried from midterms. I have a
xb9r. So buy a xb12r airbox cover and drill hundreds of little holes in it...right?

Or is it drill my stock cover or buy a xb12 cover and leave it alone?

If its the second one, why not drill it?
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Kaese
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

See what an education can do to you? Buy the 12 air box and do not drill, I just ordered mine today. Trust in Bubba.
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Kaese
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bubba:
Yeah, sure,last toy. Sort of looks Italian, maybe Austrian, Swis or German, same neck of the woods. I’m disappointed in you. I hope you don’t have to order parts for that thing. Oh yeah I forgot, they never break. Couldn't tell if it was chain or shaft, I hope it is a chain.

On the one exhaust near your bag, does it double as a Bar-BQ? My sister owns a Bar-B-Q in Kansas City, I could probably hook you up with some sauce.

edited by kaese on November 13, 2003

edited by kaese on November 13, 2003
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am not saying don't drill the 12 airbox. I just haven't done it myself to test it and I probably am not gonna do it. I hated the noise coming from it. Get the 12 airbox it works well and quiet.

kaese
Its a triumph so it be british . it is chain and its a pretty damn fun bike. The starngest thing is when I have ridden it for days , then jump back on my xb I gotta get the hang of the xb again thru the first few corners. and visa versa.

but the triumph is my daily comuter as I hate cages. Plus I can go to the grocery store on that thing and take any dang dirt or gravel road I want.

It is great to have 2 bikes that are totally different in there purpose.
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Golin
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I see my bike in those photos. Glad to see she's being kept warm. Looks like she's not too lonely either. I'll be down to pick her up soon enough.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not if I roll her down the hill anytime soon....god I love having power.bwahahaha
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Brian
How much beer will that Trumpit hold (don't wanna have to make to many runs to the grocery store) its getting cold. You remember I cut the big holes in the 12 box and it didn't help power wise,just noise..........Later Charlie
PS Love that pipe man
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Kaese
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just messing with you Brian. I have a friend that got a Sprint ST. I rode it, very smooth and appears to be a sound bike. Had the chain though. His back started to bother him and he sold it after 1500 miles. Then he rented a Road King, and purchased one. He is a happy camper now. Did Dean in Alaska get his pipe shipped other than regular? I was getting my hopes up when I arrived home.
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