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Rsh
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XB15 ENGINE DATA:

Peak Horsepower: 130.73 bhp at 8,000 rpm
Peak Torque: 104.03 ft-lbs at 7,800 rpm
Quarter Mile: 10.02 at 145.13 mph

Motor becomes available 6 Nov. 2004 for sale!

Motor is being developed in LasVegas. It is being put into XB9R.
Top-end already tested at 172 Mph!

This info is from the XB message board on MSN

http://groups.msn.com/xb9r/xb9rfirebolt.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Messa ge=334&LastModified=4675443490730974262
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Darthane
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

-=snort=-
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Court
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I read thru a bit of the MSN Groups and am willing to speculate that whoever "CBJame" is, he/she needs to do a reality check.

In addition, a does of good old fashion manners would be in order.

I'll stop before I say too much....geeeesh.
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Spiderman
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LMFAO And I thought we were a bunch of mis-led motor junkies LMAO.
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Usapitbullz
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess we'll know by Nov, 2004 if he's full of Chit!
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Rockbiter1
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

did anyone notice that the email he gave for Eric Buell (deleted addy, out of respect, just in case) is a Harley domain? why would Eric Buell not use an @buell.com email? hmmm....maybe i'm just paranoid...

edited by rockbiter1 on October 20, 2003
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Spiderman
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

your not paranoid. And if this person was really in contact with Erik He would have the respect to not disclose this information.
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Prof_stack
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He is just another goofball trying to be funny or to "give" potential XB12 buyers reason to pause.

Or maybe its a ToolTime Tim shouting "MORE POWER". :]
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Freyke
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ohhh!..... That's right, if I was a (semi-famous) public figure, I would use my real name and corporate domain for my email address; (Sarcasim 101).... Ufffffhhhhh - course I would answer it myself.... rrrrriiiiighhhhtttt....

you are silly people.....

kk//kef

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Newfie_buell
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who is this CBJames TWIT?!?!?!
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Blublak
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cory James... Check out his site.. I did.. I've even posted there a few times.. As a matter of fact, I learned about the BadWeb there.. He seemed like a sincere, friendly Buellin' kind a guy.. Stated he had done some engine work and gotten good results, offered to build motors similar to what he had posted..

The whole XB15 post doesn't really sound like him.. But then.. I don't know the guy personally.

Later,
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José_quiñones
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FWIW, every person that I have met to date that works for Buell or HD has an email that follows the format described above, ie firstname.lastname@Harley-davidson.com
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Spiderman
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Either way I don't think It would be 1 a good Idea to give someone Like Erik Buell's e-mail over the BWB or anyother public forum 2 fair to Erik specially if this guy is his "friend".
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

cbj is full of it.
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Someone should tell him that 104.03 ft-lbs at 7800 rpm = 154.5hp


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Usapitbullz
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CBJames posted on the XB msn group that the XB15 was not a Buell project, but a engine project utilizing the XB12 engine. It is being produced and tested in Las Vegas. He says he will have the engine in about 2 weeks possibly. Could be interesting if it's true!

L8R, JM

edited by usapitbullz on October 20, 2003
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Easyflier
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I expect the XB15 motor is just an 88" kit using the Nallin 1200 kit.
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Court
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 05:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>FWIW, every person that I have met to date that works for Buell or HD has an email that follows the format described above, ie firstname.lastname@Harley-davidson.com

Let's shake this engine and power thing for a minute and focus on "simple courtesy".

Erik Buell has gone to lengthsnever envisioned by executives of many firms to be accesible and stay in contact with Buell owners. Most folks here have met Erik, many have spent "quality" one-on-one time.

There are, as a simple practical matter, things Erik can not discuss. Questions like "can you call my dealer and ....." or "are you going to make another sport-tourer" are in bad taste and an insult.

In addition, Erik has taken none of the traditional "I have to hide from my customers" measures to conceal his contact information. He's "in the book" and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to call Buell, get the voice mail and enter the first 3 letter or the persons last name to get his extension.

Here's where the courtesy comes in...

Erik gets more e-mail than you can imagine. Think of yourself going to a B.R.A.G. event for 3 days and coming back to 2400 messages in your in-box, many of which call for technical thought.

In addition, Erik pretty much lives on the phone and in meetings. There have been and are being some incredibly groundbreaking things from East Troy. All of these require tremendous collaboration from concept stage to homologation and cert teams. Erik, and many of you know this, would love to do ALL these things, he simply can't. But he does keep tabs by attending the meetings of these groups.

If you pick up the phone and call, think what happens. You either end up with a dramatic "didn't have time to talk to a customer, wouldn't take my call" or some other rediculous account. T'aint so.

There's another component that has to do with most the things people want to contact Erik about are outside the purvue of what he's involved with.

Bottom line, is it's simple courtesy and respect. Your Mother taught you not to walk inot the bathroom when someone's in there, you wouldn't walk into someone's office unannounced, etc. It's exacerbated by the fact that any ass can post a "Erik and I talk a couple times a week and he's consulting with me on a new project" (yes, I actually got that one) and Erik is powerless, simply due to the time it takes to engage in an internet flame war, to defend himself.

Old wisdom, me thinks, is best...."do unto others...." and let's not mess up the good thing or the good friend we, as Buell Riders, have.

Court
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's exacerbated by the fact that any ass can post a "Erik and I talk a couple times a week and he's consulting with me on a new project" (yes, I actually got that one)

Hmmm now who could that be? I already know the answer because you & I discussed that exact situation. he does talk with Erik several times a week. Erik sometimes also makes the calls to him at home & work.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LMFAO!
I got turned down for a job with Buell, and just so I wouldn't feel so bad Erik sent me an e-mail and told me all about what they're working on for the next years bike...
Then later on in the same thread he says Buell isn't doing this, they're race engines using "Nallin 1050cc Heads" made by Shelby and he has "done 7 of these thus far for XB9R's "
HAHAHA
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess I shouldnt post Eriks cell# on the board then?:D
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All I gotta say is that I totally agree with Court.

-Saro
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Court
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Hmmm now who could that be? I already know the answer because you & I discussed that exact situation. he does talk with Erik several times a week. Erik sometimes also makes the calls to him at home & work.

Excellent and that kinda makes sense. Sure explains a lot of things.

Why would you post someone's cell phone number on the internet?
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And/Or e-mail address
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Leeaw
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court,

It seems like some people also need to be reminded to put the lid down and flush.
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't understand Glitch... Erik tells you a few things that are most likely classified, you post them, then he says "No we're not" as he has to, and you get dissapointed?

Maybe I just missed something??
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guys... after 4 months... I FINALLY got an email from Erik Buell... I will post and share this email at a later time early next week... it is interesting to say the least and does point to major development in the XB line... I will let you all extract what you want out of the email from Erik... I was begging Erik to hire me but the usualy response, "we are not taking applications at this time".... but the letter went on to talk about the XB Series.....

I just thought this was funny, cause later on he says this...

XB15 Engine is NOT being built by Buell or H-D. It is being built by a professional racing company that builds engines for Shelby Motors in Las Vegas!

Erik and H-D would never get a project like this off the ground with all the damn beancounters floating about telling Erik what to do


I just thought it was funny how he started the thread, then starts to back peddle...
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Usapitbullz
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damn guys, The guy was just trying to share a little info, lets not crucify him. I want to see this engine.
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M2cyclone00
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not that he's trying to share info, it's that his info is crap. He tries to infer that Buell is building an XB15. Then states a supposed racing company is building the engines. Maybe English is his second language? And, he is definitely not a math wizard. I did the math as Anonymous did, 104.03 ft-lbs at 7800rpm = 154.5hp. His credibility is just a bit low.

Pammy already has more HP out of her 88".
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Bucknut
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just to add some fuel to the fire...there is a guy that is a partner/owner of the dealership where I had purchased my XB who is a Buell enthusiast...when I spoke to him, he indicated (or rather stated) that in his recent conversations with Eric Buell, Eric told him that they had developed the current XB motor to over 130hp. Could this be the future? I'm only adding this because I heard it with my own ears. Maybe related, may not be...but let's hope it's true.
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