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Biondo78
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was thinking of eliminating both air scoop, I know that recommended put the optional, but watching the bike of Craig Jones, I noticed that he did not mount ....

will be dangerous to the bike?
become too hot?
Craig burns the bike ...
craig
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Mr2shim
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While you're at it you should remove the oil cooler scoop, take that air filter out too, it just restricts air flow.

I can't possibly fathom a reason as to why this would be a good idea.

(Message edited by mr2shim on August 05, 2008)
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Aussie_xb12ss
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was thinking of taking both wheels off mine too.
I hear it will get good fuel economy that way?
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Sub65chris
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

all sarcasm aside i have been running my 2005xb9sx for over 2 years with no scoops. had a timer with and without scoop and the fan didnt run any more or less. just my .02$
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Floresa66
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I understand the left side scoop primarily cools down the intake, not the cylinders.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

all sarcasm aside i have been running my 2005xb9sx for over 2 years with no scoops. had a timer with and without scoop and the fan didnt run any more or less. just my .02$

So how is air getting to your airbox when you have a hole in your frame for that reason.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2003-2005, the Left scoop splits between cooling the rear cylinder and providing air to the intake. 2006 and newer it only provides airflow to the rear cylinder.

So how is air getting to your airbox when you have a hole in your frame for that reason.

The scoop isn't meant to me a ram-air system or anything, so the intake is just pulling the air it need up through the frame hole, rather than also going through the scoop. Aside from the possibility of slightly higher intake temps, I don't see removing this scoop having any effect on air getting to the intake.

Now, I do think there would be issues with cooling the rear cylinder, but I'll let others take that chance.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aside from the possibility of slightly higher intake temps

That does cause a problem. The scoop directs it. Maybe he is running a new airbox lid that has the vent by the gas filler hole in the lid???
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Sub65chris
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it is a wide open airbox without a vent. the bike runs quite well. so I am not worried.
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Mr2shim
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so I am not worried.

Until it grenades. LOL

It's main purpose is to direct airflow across the back cylinder. Why would you be stupid enough to mess up that flow? I really hope you don't think.. "oh it'll still get air back there" Because if that was the case, then why did ENGINEERS design it that way.... It's bad enough the rear cylinder is jam packed in a huge frame, but whatever, it's your bike. Destroy it if you like.

(Message edited by mr2shim on August 06, 2008)
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Retrittion
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is it the summer weather that brings out the sarcastic in you people? Just answer the question and keep your "rabble-rabble-rabble" to yourself. Its a friggen help board, remember?

Your bike, your risk -- but it is removing something the engineers though important enough to put on so...personally I would get someone to fab matching micro intakes or even just some short "fins" for you that mount up using the the stock mounting hardware to keep directing some air back in towards the rear cylinder, just to be on the safe side, plus make sure you are running the current airbox design so your bike gets the air it needs.

My .02, interested to see how you go, so please post pics!
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you're looking for a cleaner look but still want to keep air flowing to the rear cylinder you might look at these low profile scoops
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Dogdaze
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is it ok to remove the Left Side Scoop if you add the RSS?

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Sub65chris
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wow , you guys are really really opinionated. just letting you all know 26000 miles no problem but electrical stuff. I have it! the LSS keeps the harness cool!
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Beachbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Craig Jones rides in circles all day. He is not out on the open road at highway speeds. Personally, I wouldn't take em off. But, to each their own!
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U4euh
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with Rit.
Damn, if it weren't for new riders to Buell, would the company be where it is at today. Answer the question without all your criticism and sarcasm on the "other" forum.

I rode around for about a month without my LSS and RSS, and never noticed the fan running any different than usual. BUT, they put them on there for a reason, and I decided just for the bikes sake, and my own peace of mind, to put them back on, and still have not noticed a difference.

A note to add also is my header is wrapped.
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sooooo,

If you have to have only one scoop????????

Is an aftermarket RSS better than the stock LSS?
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Floresa66
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those freaking engineers are the same ones designing the sidestands that breaks. right?
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Swordsman
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL, here's hoping there was more testing done on engine cooling than kickstand bolts!

~SM
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Chippy
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

there are probably a couple hundred thousand sportsters out there with no air scoops...and probably 25% give or take have been hopped up a bit. i tried to ride my old one into the ground and failed. at about 35000 miles the thing is still strong...

begin buells are not sportster comments here:
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Beachbuell
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sportsters do not have their engines enclosed by the frame. Thus locking heat in.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sportsters do not have undercoolabelistic <(new word) fuel rails!
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Socalbuell
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

when you have the full body kit you have to remove the left sit scoop. and the does not seem to be an issue with cooling for that mater the body kit does a great job of holding heat in since I wrapped my bike in fur and wile it get hot the bike runs fine
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