| Author | Message | ||
     Froggy |
Hop on the highway for a bit. Unless your death, you will here it when you get on the offramp. | ||
| Darthane |
Wind noise is what generally keeps me from hearing my fan going, not the engine or exhaust...so I can generally tell if it's running at slower speeds, but definitely not anything like major surface street speeds. My Firebolt almost never runs the fan except at shutdown. The Uly runs a lot, but it's still being broken in and I haven't changed to synthetic yet. I'm reasonably sure the Blast has never turned the fan on in either condition. Oh, I just mean that if you or I (or anyone, for that matter) decided to start using the Anonymous feature to foment rebellion, we'd likely find our actual BadWeb accounts nixed in short order if a cease and desist command wasn't followed. I understand your reasoning for assuming this particular anony was affiliated with Buell in some way, I was just pointing out that assuming they always are is best avoided. (Message edited by darthane on August 04, 2008) | ||
| Sparky |
Your Blast has a fan? | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Like I told in another thread, I just did 1100 k over the weekend. It was pretty well all highway and between 110-120kph. A long section was done at 130-140. I never heard anything like a fan until I shut it down. 2003 XB9R. | ||
| Mr2shim |
This is slightly off topic, but is the Anonymous poster someone from Buell? | ||
| Darthane |
Your Blast has a fan? Heh...no, I was just being facetious.  | ||
| 07xb12ss |
i hear my fan when i am exiting off the highway - after about 5-10 minutes of 40-50mpg stop and go in city traffic then 10-15 minutes of 80-85mph | ||
| 07xb12ss |
im sure it doesnt help that it's 105 degrees down here in texas | ||
| Treadmarks |
I'm actually gonna go out on a limb here, and side with Matt (Trojan) on this one. I am quite certain this annony, is not connected with Buell in any way shape or form. I do not need an IP address to know that this poster is a pathetic excuse for a true Buell enthusiast. PLEASE post your true identity and prove me wrong. I dare you. Ya see, I am an American motorcycle enthusiast, and I like Buell. Some of the compromises Buell makes in order to show a profit, makes me sick. I have had the fan failure, leaking valve guide seals, failed wheel bearings, sheit for headlights including toasted reflectors and numerous other issues that should not have happened in a $12,000 motorcycle purchase. If I had to pay the dealer to learn as we go, I would have been broke and left Buell a long time ago. In the civilian world I solve engineering problems for a living. Sometimes the ideas that look good on paper don't quite pan out like they should. In my world engineers are required to run to failure as part of the evaluation process of the validation strategy. Maybe....just maybe, Buell did start out with dual scoops. Maybe they realized that a right side scoop that was manufactured the same as a left size scoop, would probably burst into flames due to the excessive exhaust heat required to meet EPA regulations. Maybe manufacturing cost for all of these little surprises we continue to encounter were decisions from the mother ship. They must show a profit to survive, period. This is a business. There are people that do run to failure, however. I am one of those people. I will run till failure, and look for a solution. Some of our vendors do this as well. Our vendors understand that some people will want to pay extra for a product that will perform better than our made in china (or where ever) OEM equipment. It is very easy to hide behind a false identity and slander someone, just like I am doing you. Remember that our contributing board sponsor's provide a service that Buell chooses not to. As far and the fuel rail... I prefer cool fuel, and I have an RSS. (Message edited by treadmarks on August 04, 2008) | ||
| Strmvt |
I'm of the mind when someone else makes the payments for my bike then and only then can they "maybe" tell me what I can or can't install or use on it until then MYODB =mind your own da*n business. Nobody ever said ya had to like what other ppl have done to their bikes for that matter just my .02 which aint much anyways | ||
| Anonymous |
Treadmarks, The slander started with Trojan calling us liars. Calling him a troll is not slander; it's a fact. And, no one is telling anyone what to run, all we did was explain why we did it the way we did. You own it, do whatever you want. And go ahead, call us stupid mindless liars. That's it, I am gone from here for good. We're not supposed to be here anyhow. | ||
| Mr2shim |
I'm confused, Anony.. You're calling Trojan a troll but no one has any idea who you are? (Message edited by mr2shim on August 04, 2008) | ||
| Bads1 |
Treadmarks posted....PLEASE post your true identity and prove me wrong. As you know he couldn't if he wanted to. His job isn't to intereact with you or I on these forum's. But at times they do. If you think someone would not post in that fashion from Buell you may be very mistaken. I live here I know a few you are mistaken. Remember many Engineers could be reading this sight on a daily basis and others as well. (Message edited by bads1 on August 04, 2008) | ||
| Glitch |
That's it, I am gone from here for good. Let's hope not. The right side airscoop is as touchy a subject as any of the oil, contact patch, or, counter steering threads. There's really no use in arguing the point. I mean we all know BMC's stance on the matter. And anyone that's talked with Erik knows how he feels. We also know there are a lot of people that feel otherwise no matter the reason they disagree with BMC. Do as you will, you've been told by the designers, if you'd like to buy one and use it ok, if you decide to listen to BMC, that's ok too. I do know how it feels to have worked on something, pour your heart and soul into a project only to have someone undo it. So I understand the passion Anonymous is showing. | ||
| Madduck |
If your RSS causes you trouble you can easily restrict the airflow by sticking a sock in it. Most disagreeable discussion are also solved by one party doing the same. | ||
| Teeps |
So Anonymous, Does the RSS OVERCOOL the fuel rail or not? As someone else, in this thread, mentioned; fuel (like beer in the USA) is better served cold. Not that there's anything wrong with that... | ||
| Spiderman |
Some of the compromises Buell makes in order to show a profit, HOW THE HELL DID YOU FIGURE THAT OUT!?!? Obviously they spent the money to test it, that has been stated. They had to have made tooling along the line to make said product. Not only that, You see that there is a cover on the right side, which had to be designed and tooled and made. I have been in the plastics industry as a mold maker, believe me they didn't "cut any corners" in this design. I believe that the RSS is not a major problem for any one on this board, but remember 100% of the people here only represent about 10 to 20% of the Buell riding public AND Buell doesn't test their bikes the normal to and fro that we do. The put the bike in the desert and run them at 110% till the break. So do some research or know the product/company before you state such facts of cutting corners... | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
So Glitch......is the Annoy post actually a buell engineer? I am sure you have access to who it is. I am not asking for you to tell exactly who but are they a company member or just a grumpy member of the buell faithful? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Good Lord, do we have to debate this again? Why would Buell NOT include a RSS from the factory if it was the single greatest item in keeping the fan from running? Why would they then LIE about its function? The same folks who will question the veracity of Abe and the Anonys here appear to be the same folks who believe that the WTC collapse was an inside job. If you want one on your bike, put it on. If you don't think you need it. Don't. If you are new to the board, learn to do a search. I will be so glad when the XB line slips over the edge of production so that we can concentrate on bitching about the giant scoops on the 1125 line. | ||
| Smiley1eye |
I love me a good slander-fest!  I'm torn. I think on the whole, you guys are great. And on the other side of that is my natural inclination to watch the human race destroy itself. What to do? What to do? I know! I'm getting a beer and watching the show. Hehe | ||
| Mr2shim |
I will be so glad when the XB line slips over the edge of production so that we can concentrate on bitching about the giant scoops on the 1125 line. That is hilarious. Thank you for making me laugh myself out of my chair. | ||
| Smiley1eye |
Yeah, we could debate whether the 1125s REALLY needed two scoops... | ||
| Buellfighter |
 Someone say "Two Scoops"? | ||
| Id073897 |
Does the RSS OVERCOOL the fuel rail or not? How would that be possible? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I wonder if there will be a scoop exchange program for folks to trade in 1125 scoops to be made into RSS for XB folks. BTW, I didn't experience any ill effects of not having a RSS Saturday:  | ||
| Xbgeorge |
Of course they need 2 scoops. They work as frame sliders. We don't want people to have to decide which side they go down on.  | ||
| Etennuly |
No body seems to see their point about a smaller scoop on the right side. The smaller inlet will make the air, that is being pulled through by the fan, accelerate as it moves across the fuel rail. That makes it work better sitting still or moving below the ram air threshold of a larger scoop.  I'm gonna put a second, bigger fan on mine. A front fan! That's the ticket! Remember; "Loud fans save lives!" | ||
| Cmmfiremedic |
I put a right side scoop on my 03 XB9R about a month ago and i have loved it so far. Most of the time in my area the temp is 90 plus in summer and 85% plus humid. I like it so far. I has cut down on the fan keeping my legs hot. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I bought a bike built by people that are passionate about bikes. Go figure  | ||
| Metalstorm |
*sigh* Just when the Annonys start coming back, we chase them away.  Right or wrong, if I spent months or years even, designing something until I believed it was just right and then someone told me it was all BS I would be extremely irate too. I'd be washing my mouth out with soap for a whole year after I was done expressing my discontent. (Message edited by metalstorm on August 04, 2008) |
