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     Buellinachinashop |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-Buell-Lightnin g-XB12ss-Frame-and-Swing-arm_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcat egoryZ35562QQihZ007QQitemZ170225026459QQrdZ1QQsspa genameZWDVW The seller says he has an 07 frame and swing arm for sale in mint condition from an XBSs. How did he get a silver swing arm and a black frame? | ||
| No_rice |
thats not even an Ss frame as far as i see. the frame protectors arent long enough at the bottom. its a newer 12 frame with the closed hole in the frame instead of the air passage. and that is an old style swingarm which is not what would have been with an Ss anyway, plus as you stated its the wrong color. thats off of a 9 | ||
| Point_doc |
The swing arm looks like my '04. They changed from '05 and up and the outer appearance changed. This looks like '03/'04. Take a look around, I may be incorrect. Thanks for the correction... (Message edited by point_doc on June 04, 2008) | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
I asked him about this...."I bought the swing arm off ebay" So these parts aren't off the same bike. | ||
| Simple |
question, (sorry to jack the post but its related) would an '05 city cross have the newer style swinger shown here.... http://www.buell.com/en_us/bikes/streetfighter/xb9 sx/gallery.asp | ||
| Jcbikes |
The newer swingarms were only on the 2006's and later. 03, 04,05 were all the same. I personally like the older one's better because they are cast one piece. The newer one's are stamped and are welded together. Some have had leaks from bad welds too. Newer ones are a little lighter and stiffer though but are cheaper to manufacture. | ||
| A1203r |
thats a standard xb12 frame and an 05 or older xb9 swing arm. | ||
| Point_doc |
Does anyone know if the swing arms are interchangeable? Thanks | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"thats a standard xb12 frame and an 05 or older xb9 swing arm." But advertised as 2007. Damn Ebay. You gotta know what you're buying. | ||
| A1203r |
Most likely the seller dosn't know what he has, or he's a jackass. (favor the latter). It's not hard to do some research before you tell someone the wrong information.  | ||
| A1203r |
Sent the seller a comment saying: Just wanted to let you know, These components are off two different models of buell's. the Frame is a standard XB12R or XB12S. this frame is intended for the 52" wheelbase and the Ss model a 54". the Swingarm is From a 2005 or older XB9R or XB9S, also meant to have a 52" wheelbase. They could be used together, but labeling them as an XB12Ss is completely false. FYI If he can't figure it out, Lets do it for him.  | ||
| Choza |
but if they can be used together it still makes it interesting... im with the idea of starting a xb9s or xb12s project from zero for various reasons... any idea why not going with this package despite its not a 07 model or same color? | ||
| Samiam |
It also looks like the frame was on a bike that went down on the left side (no frame puck on that side, plus small dent where one would be). If someone has a Carfax account I'll bet they could look up that VIN and see that the bike that frame came from has had a frame replacement(or at least a wreck). Just my $.02 -Sam | ||
| Choza |
one question... where is supposed to go the snorkel intake in this frame? | ||
| No_rice |
one question... where is supposed to go the snorkel intake in this frame? it doesnt get one. they got rid of that in what 06? i think thats when. the new ones have the air intake above the fuel cap. any idea why not going with this package despite its not a 07 model or same color? well the main draw back would be that there is no title. it could be a big hassle getting one if you even can. | ||
| A1203r |
not too hard to get a new title, go to DOL and submit for a lost one. (bring bill of sale) you might also need to have the bike check by the DMV just to make sure you have the signals, headlight, ODO, etc. | ||
| No_rice |
but some salvages are not titleable(?) to put back on the road. there is always a way, but not always legally | ||
| Jos51700 |
"not too hard to get a new title, go to DOL and submit for a lost one. (bring bill of sale) you might also need to have the bike check by the DMV just to make sure you have the signals, headlight, ODO, etc." Any Badwebber's in Missouri (and most other states), note that this is not true. A bill of sale is NOT proof of legal ownership. You can get a bill of sale on stolen goods just as well as legit ones. If you try to title a stolen bike/frame, guess who gets picked up for possession of stolen propertay? You, or the guy you gave your hard-earned cash too? If you said YOU go to jail, here's your get out of jail free card. Say it's not stolen, and your seller (or any number of previous sellers) just forgot to file the titlework? Think you're just gonna mosey on down to the title office, bill of sale in hand, and leave with a title in your holster? Nope. Think: if that were true, what stops me, Mr. hardworking, bike titling, all-around Good Guy, from stopping by your bike while it's at McD's or whereever, jotting down the VIN, following you home to get your address, name, and other info out of your mailbox, filling out a Bill o' sale (Really, how hard is it to forge one? MO doesn't even honor them anymore unless you're a business), and trotting down to the DMV to get myself a title? "Really, I just bought this. See? Here's my BOS, and the guy just lost the title, but I got me a BOS, so just transfer that title on over to me." Then, with a title stating YOU are the handy-dandy new LEGAL owner, you trot back over to the chaps' house to get YOUR bike. After all, you're legal now, RIGHT? Nope. Not. No can do. Every vehicle since about 1968 or so has a VIN that is readable from outside the vehicle, and title bureau's know this. Without a title, the bike, OR THE FRAME, are just parts. Potentially stolen parts, to boot. Even in the above scenario, the bike now has TWO legal owners. What to do? Simple, keep it from happening in the first place. Think: The guy got a replacement frame from Buell. The new frame has his VIN, too. (And it will. Even motors come with the VIN info on them in the motor number. Ever seen a Blast motor coded as an XB9R motor? I have, due to a factory-replacement screwup. Some factory employee lost their butt on that one, I know.) So, he replaces his frame with his new one, but instead of sending the frame back like Buell says to do (and the dealer does to avoid a VERY hefty fine from Buell), he says, "Man, I can sell that on eBay!" And he does. With a BOS, if you think you could get a title, even in a different state, what would that mean? It would mean that there are now TWO bikes, VIN#4MZSS1JYblahblahblah's out there. Which one is real? Which owner is real? Hmmmmm... No Frame Without A Title Is Worth Anything But Scrap Metal. Ever. Even the "we'll get you a title" places in Hoboken, New Jersey, or whereever will run your numbers first (after you've plunked down more of that hard-earned dough, of course) and if they show a current owner, it's a no-go. If you know of a state that DOESN'T require a title for Joe Citizen, let me know. I'm gonna get rich, quick! |
