| Author | Message | ||
     M1combat |
"Is it you like to spend money and pick the most expensive one you can get for bragging rights? "  Apparently you just don't get it. I'm ok with that. Go buy a Jardine. They make really high numbers as I recall. Good luck with it but don't come crying to me when you realize you need to go get a good can to make good power. Sorry for breaking the rules Blake  . Will it be a ban or the wet noodle lashing? Please don't make me eat Okra... | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
WoW M1.....  I have a Jardine, It runs VERY well. But Thanks For heads up anyways M1.... I have a Drummer on it now, it is okay, For what it is. My point was not EVERYONE can afford them, Not to rip on them... Take your Drummer blinders off...Tape Measures and Micrometers DO NOT lie. Buy one OR make one, Makes no difference to me personally. Just showing the facts... ****Prove me wrong if you can..I say there is nothing "special" in there..I am Waiting!**** | ||
| Scotty_j |
No one is trashing Kevin here, as far as I can tell! Just pointing out that it isn't really an astounding mod for the dough. Chop it, gut it, and stuff it with something else. It's a free-breathing exhaust built in the same style as any packed muffler. I had a Big Gun Exhaust on my KLR that was basically the same thing: a tube, some wadding, another (perforated) tube, DONE. But if you don't know how to weld or aren't otherwise tooled for the task (like me), go spend your money (like me). But I like full systems, so I went with the Micron. And for a few beans more than a Drummer I've got a kicka$$ exhaust plus I still have my stocker. I helped FBE_MA and JPB build one, and it was way more fun than shipping it off somewhere. Plus I think it only ran him around $100 in stainless stock, two or three sixers of Guiness, and a few favors. We're going to datalog it tonight. Oh yeah- I hereby nominate CorporateMonkey for best post EVER. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I heard he puts a little mouse inside the muffler that sucks up all the exhaust gas and then farts it out. That's why they sound like they do. Magic mice I tell ya... | ||
| Scotty_j |
Oh, so that's the trick. I'm afraid of mice. And clowns. | ||
| Hammeroid |
hahaha Eric...I love that pict. I'm stealing it. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Have you guys reviewed the exhaust shootout results in detail? | ||
| Bads1 |
Eric we don't have to prove your wrong. Email me the pics. Put up or shut up. Sorry but so far you haven't proved your own theory. The Shootout proves hes done homework. Al,Terry, and a host of others have acknowledged that. You have no room to say unless you can prove other wise that what he does is that simple. I'm not going to debate this with you. Show me and we all put are tails between our legs and go home. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I'd like to see the dyno results from you home cut version. If it is as good as Kevin's, hats off to you. If you don't test it on the dyno, you are just talking out your ass. | ||
| M1combat |
+1 for Spatten. | ||
| Scotty_j |
Uuuuh, he never said it didn't work, he just said that it was pricey and not too tough to build. Sheesh. | ||
| Damnut |
No need to email anyone the pictures of the inside of Kevin's pipe. There are MULTIPLE people that have seen it at Eric's shop. I don't want to get into a pissing match with anyone here. Eric never said that Kevin's pipe didn't work good or that his was better. HE JUST SAID THERE ISN'T MUCH INSIDE THERE!!! Believe it or not. | ||
| Bads1 |
I never said Eric said the pipe didn't work. I'm arguing that was said anyone that can weld and cut can do this. Most Muffler don't have alot in them. Its basically chambers. It understanding flow. How this chamber should be and that chamber should be. If some of it is angled such of way to create more back pressure here or a better flow there. Kevins pipe might not look like much....I don't know. But as simple as it may be he tested and tested to get the best HP numbers he could. Now if some one wants to cut open a stock muffler and cut this,shorten that great you have a better sounding pipe. But I bet it won't perform as well unless you copy it to "T". | ||
| Swordsman |
"How this chamber should be and that chamber should be. If some of it is angled such of way to create more back pressure here or a better flow there." Not that I care the first thing about it, but isn't that what Buell already achieved with the electronic exhaust valve? Or is the goal here to make a louder pipe over an efficient one? (I admit, I haven't read through all the banter...). ~SM | ||
| Damnut |
(I admit, I haven't read through all the banter...). You should cause it is pretty funny. Me? I say the race can it the best one out there, but that's just me. then again when I make PB&J sandwiches I put the PB&J on the outside of my bread. | ||
| Bads1 |
I make PB&J sandwiches I put the PB&J on the outside of my bread. You tooooooo??? lol | ||
| Scotty_j |
Hmmm... So the guys with the Drummer all say the Drummer is the best, the guy with the Race say's it's the best, and the guys who keep it stock say stock's the best. I guess we're all just the best. But you're all wrong, because my can is the best. Why? Because it's mine. You're all wrong. Go eat a bug. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Now if some one wants to cut open a stock muffler and cut this,shorten that great you have a better sounding pipe. But I bet it won't perform as well unless you copy it to "T". According to the American Sport Bike shootout, the Spec OPS pipe puts out a nicer curve as far as I'm concerned. That's why I bought one. Are you accusing Odie of stealing Kevin's design since you can't possibly make better power out of a modified stock muffler than a Drummer does? I'm telling you, magic mice in all of them. I think Odies pipe has two so one can open and close the valve at the right time. | ||
| Bads1 |
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| Bads1 |
Nope I didn't say they are the best either. I like it the best on my 12. Gotta Race Can on the 9.... works great. | ||
| Scotty_j |
I'm afraid of mice. | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
Making Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwiches: Many people say that making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich is one of the easiest things to do in the kitchen. Peanut butter and jelly (PB&J) sandwiches are the perfect dish for beginning cooks to make. Here are several comprehensive steps you should take to create a delicious peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Preparing your workstation: Many people prefer to have a clean work surface in case a countertop is dirty. Take a roll of paper towels and unroll it until one sheet of paper towel is hanging off. Carefully tear the sheet of paper towel along the perforated line, making sure not to tear the paper towels anywhere else, until the sheet of paper towel is completely off the roll. Set the paper towel sheet flat on top of a clean countertop after clearing any objects out of the way. Put the roll of paper towels back from where you got it. Getting the bread: 1. Get a bag of pre-sliced bread. Actually, it doesn’t have to be store-bought, pre-sliced bread, but it takes a lot of work to make bread—that is beyond the scope of this guide. It also doesn’t really matter what kind of bread you choose; it’s a matter of personal preference. However, if you don’t want the bread to outshine the filling inside, go with white bread. Remove the twisty tie from the bag, and then untwist the bag until the bag has opened. 2. Reach your hand into the bag and take out two slices of bread. This guide assumes you are making a standard two-slice sandwich, but if you are making a sandwich with more or fewer layers, then accordingly take out the correct number of slices. 3. Set the two slices of bread next to each other on top of the paper towel. 4. Twist the open end of the bag of bread so that the bag closes. Put the twisty tie back onto the bread, and put the bag of bread back from where you got it. People are likely to get mad at you if you don't put things back where you got them. Spreading the peanut butter (method 1): Take out a jar of peanut butter. The subject of chunky versus creamy has befuddled philosophers for centuries. Hopefully, you already know what kind of peanut butter you prefer to use. If you don't know, you may as well give up on this sandwich and stop reading now. Grab hold of the jar with your right hand, and the lid with your left hand. Of course, it may be easier for some to twist it open with their left hand on the jar and their right hand on the lid. It’s really not very important. Turn the lid until it comes off. Depending on how tight the lid is, you might have to twist it very hard. If you are weak, be sure not to try to open jars if you are near your friends or else they may tease you for not being able to get the lid off. You don’t want to embarrass yourself, do you? Also, make sure you’re not twisting the lid the wrong way. Once you get the lid off of the jar, set the lid on the countertop, and get a knife. It does not have to be a sharp knife (this is not supposed to be a dangerous project). Dip the knife into the peanut butter, and scoop up a fair-sized dollop. Wipe the peanut butter off of the knife onto one of the bread slices. Use the knife to spread the peanut butter onto the bread so that there is a thin, even layer. Be careful not to tear the bread with the knife. Cold peanut butter is harder than room-temperature peanut butter, so you might have to push harder with the knife to spread it, which means you’re at greater risk of tearing the bread. It may be necessary to let the peanut butter warm to room temperature before spreading it onto the bread. Don’t put any peanut butter on the other slice of bread. Set the knife down on the paper towel. Pick up the lid, and twist it clockwise on the rim of peanut butter jar so that the lid goes on to the jar. Put the jar back from where you got it. Spreading the peanut butter (method 2): The following steps are not necessary if you have already used method 1 to spread the peanut butter. Take out a jar of peanut butter. Grab hold of the jar with your right hand, and the lid with your left hand. Turn the lid counter-clockwise until it comes off. Depending on how tight the lid is, you might have to twist it very hard. Once you get the lid off of the jar, set the lid on the countertop, and get a spoon and a microwave-safe container. Using the spoon, scoop enough peanut butter from the jar into the container so that it could cover one slice of the bread. You might have to use your fingers or some other instrument to get the spare peanut butter out of the spoon. Open the microwave door, put the container of peanut butter into the microwave, and then close the microwave door. Follow the microwave manufacturer’s steps (the microwave should have come with an instruction manual--you did read the manual, didn’t you?) to set the microwave to melt the peanut butter. Creamy peanut butter tends to melt better than chunky. Consider this before deciding to use method 2. Of course, if the peanut butter jar itself is microwave-safe, you could just put the jar of peanut butter into the microwave and bypass steps 17 through 19. Be careful, as some plastics are not microwave-safe, and microwaving them could release components of the plastic into the food. I am not responsible if any peanut butter explodes in your microwave. Open the microwave door. The container will probably be hot; carefully remove the jar of melted peanut butter Pour the peanut butter from the container onto one slice of bread. It will spread itself. Be sure not to pour too much or else the slice will overflow onto the paper towel. The melted peanut butter will shortly harden. Don’t pour any peanut butter on the other slice of bread. Pick up the lid, and twist it clockwise on the rim of peanut butter jar so that the lid goes on to the jar. Put the jar back from where you got it. Applying the jelly: Get a jar of jelly. Open the jar of jelly (see Step 10). Get a spoon. Spoons are easier to use than knives because while peanut butter will stick to a knife, jelly won’t stick. The spoon is nice because you can hold the jelly in the spoon. You may have already used a spoon if you spread the peanut butter with method 2. If you did, either use a paper towel to clean the spoon, or get a new spoon. If you use the same spoon without cleaning off the peanut butter, you’ll contaminate the jelly jar by getting peanut butter in that. Even worse is if you have chunky peanut butter on the spoon because then you’ll get peanut chunks in the jelly jar. Use the spoon to scoop jelly out of the jar. The jelly should fill the spoon and then some. Turn the spoon upside-down over the clean slice of bread (the one without the peanut butter on it) so that the jelly clumps down onto the bread. Use the convex surface of the spoon to spread the jelly over the surface of the bread. Set the spoon down on the paper towel. Pick up the lid, put it on the jelly jar, and twist clockwise to secure the lid onto the jar. Place the jar back from where you got it. Combining the two halves: (This is perhaps the most complicated section.) Pick up the slice of bread with the peanut butter, and hold it peanut-butter-side down over the jelly-covered slice. Line the slices up such that the corners match up, and carefully lower the peanut butter slice onto the jelly one. It is vitally important that you match the slices together so that the side with the peanut butter touches against the side with the jelly. The outer faces of the sandwich should have neither peanut butter nor jelly showing. Eating the sandwich: Get a small plate, and put the completed sandwich on it. Get a knife, and cut the bread diagonally, from one corner to the opposite corner. Or if you want, cut across from the middle of one side to the middle of the opposite side. Or you could choose not to cut the sandwich at all. Get a glass, get a beverage, and fill the glass with the beverage. Popular beverages include milk, pop, coffee, and of course, beer. Eat the sandwich. Instructions on eating is not within the scope in this guide. | ||
| Bads1 |
The wifes calling me for lunch. PBJ open face sandwiches. See ya guys.lol | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
Dana....You have mail on the way | ||
| Bads1 |
Eric I wish I had the time you have. See ya!! | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
Don't forget the Strawberry Milk....This is the nectar of the gods!! | ||
| Ted |
could we get a pbj shootout ? i dont have the know-how or resources to mod a exhaust. i guess anyone could do it but i doubt you're going to get right the first time. i know Kevin did some dyno's with his work, which costs $$ and time. thats a lot of the cost. i just wish the Canadian buck was higher at the time i got mine! :P | ||
| Damnut |
Did someone say Peanut Butter & Jelly????? | ||
| Carbide |
+1 for the strawberry milk!!! | ||
| Ustorque |
when I make PB&J sandwiches I put the PB&J on the outside of my bread. now thats gay! but on the other hand thanks for PBJ time.} |
