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Steelworker
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have a 2005 xb12s the front muffler strap keeps breaking,3 so far, going broke here, the last 2 were just snugged up tight,engine mounts all seem to be ok,any ideas anyone?
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry to hear about the problem.

Probably a big old steel worker like yourself is just over tightening the straps. They don't need a lot of torque.

You want to make sure that the muffler is really snug up against the muffler mounts before you tighten the straps.

The best way to do that is to jack up the bike under the muffler jacking points. I think I would tighten the muffler straps first, and then tighten the muffler header clamp so that the header is not "forcing" the muffler down in any way.

By the way, you can buy the straps for about five bucks from a marine supply store. I bought some from them for the rear.

One of the brothers who is currently in Iraq wants to buy some too, so if you get the part number of the marine parts, please let me know.

Here is the web site of Deep Blue Yacht supply.

http://www.deepblueyachtsupply.com/series.aspx?id= 128
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Steelworker
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hey thanks bud,just seems strange that they keep breaking now,the first one has been on for almost 2 years since i put my drummer on,the last one i just barely snugged it up just trying to figure out why they would start breaking now?
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Stewadi
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ditto on the part numbers, front and rear.
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Snakedriver
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about just the measurements both front and back. They list the sizes on the web page.

Leo
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you tightening down the front clamp coming out of the header first? If the front clamp is tightened first, I'm wondering if the header clamp isn't putting the front strap in a bind.
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Brewtus
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 Ft_bstrd
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Bombardier
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Perhaps the drummer expands and snaps the clamp?
If you put it on loosely, warm the bike up and then tighten it up to specs it may not break.
It will be a little loose when cold but may stop the snapping issues.
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Typeone
Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 Ft_bstrd.. . make sure you tighten down in the proper order.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not a Drummer SS?

Replace the Aluminum bushings in the front muffler mount along with the bolt. Tighten that bolt with a friend (VERY tight).

It's important to get the muffler installed onto the header correctly. you don't want to tighten the clamp while the muffler isn't sitting where it'll be, and then tighten the muffler straps. It'll break front straps or header studs (the straps are a lot cheaper ;)).

In any case... I think the manual explains exactly how to do it. Follow those steps and you should be OK.

Remember... At least check the aluminum bushings. Make sure that when the bolt that holds the front muffler strap mounting bracket is tight, the mount doesn't move. Also make sure that when you put the new bushings in, they don't touch each other in the center. This will allow them to rattle back and forth no matter how much torque you put on the bolt.



As I recall (check though) the manual states that you should "snug" the straps up and then torque the clamp. I generally do that but leaving some room to be able to wiggle the muffler back and forth. Once I've wiggled the muffler back and forth and settled the muffler/header slip joint I torque the clamp, then tighten the straps.

From what I can tell...

If the muffler is installed too deep on the header.... You'll break rear straps and destroy the aluminum bushings in the front mount.

If the muffler is installed too shallow on the header you'll break front straps and/or header studs.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Which one from the deep blue yacth supply is the right size for the front muffle strap?

I plan on getting a couple but need a little help on the sizes.

Thanks
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Steelworker
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for everyones input,just to clarify the drummer has been on for almost 2 years didn't mess with anything since i put it on now suddenly having issuse,ill try starting from the beginning and reinstall from scratch
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Steelworker
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

by the way kevin if you happen to see this post I'm by no means knocking your muffler,its the best money i ever spent on this bike,that muffler f@$%#& kicks ass,its hillbilly deluxe,haha
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Snakedriver
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 05:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Steelworker,

Check out the "Muffler Clamps" post.

Leo
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