| Author | Message | ||
     Skully |
BadWeB, Your response to our new composite sliders has made it quite clear that you like them. One of our own, Ft_bstrd, has suggested that we offer the replaceable Delrin button in various colors. Would you like for us to offer this as an option? Jeremy has also suggested that DHM offer screen printing of our name or perhaps even our logo on the Delrin buttons. Would this be worth some minor (hopefully) additional cost? Let us know what you think. Keith | ||
| Nasty73z |
IMHO, the colors are not needed. Black looks good on any color of bike. Colored sliders seem racer-boyish to me. (No hard feelings, Ft_bstrd!) And where would the logo be printed? On the side of the delrin or the face? I would be cool if you could have your logo cut out of the side of the puck, like machined out. I was ordering a set of the new composites this week, but might hold off if you are going to update it. (Message edited by Nasty73z on April 17, 2007) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
No offense to me. I'm interested to see what folks want as well. I was thinking something subtle like this:  But with a DARK HORSE MOTO logo. | ||
| Trojan |
Hi Skully, My opinion, fwiw. Stick to plain black, or with a very subtle DHM logo at most. You'll find that more people are turned off by flashy graphics and colours than actually like them, and you will never please everyone, regardless of how many options you offer  For example: LSL crash bobbins are available in a huge range of colours, yet I have only ever sold black, silver and titanium options in any real numbers. Occasionally someone may want blue or red, but that is about it. I think people want them to blend into the bike rather than stand out. | ||
| Fulgur |
Maybe a few people would like a plane colour that matches the other bits of the bike like the screen etc (orange, red) ?????. I would always take solid black though I have to admit. ......Fulgur. | ||
| Isham |
Colors cool, logos no. Unless I'm getting goodies through sponsorship, logos are undesired. | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
Colors are a nice choice, Graphics are not needed. | ||
| Roadrailer |
I think Trojan is right, you'll never make everyone happy if you start offering colors. FWIW, I think colored sliders would look squiddish. I don't personally care one way or the other about the logo, but if I was the business owner you better believe I'd fit a logo on there somewhere. | ||
| Cycleaddict |
has anyone removed their axle sliders and noticed the corrosion on the axle ? i have soo... i ground slots into the sliders to allow airflow into the hollow axles. condensation, and water from washing your bike gets trapped in there. DHM ??? | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
why would there be an additional cost for me to carry your branding...never heard that one before....either put ur logo on the part or not.....most find a way to do so....but dont charge me to have ur logo on something i just paid for. otherwise ...nice parts  . | ||
| Cereal |
I vote for black w/ no logo. | ||
| Isham |
Logos=  | ||
| Greenlantern |
 GIANT ROBOT.........ATTACK!!!!!! | ||
| 07xb12scg |
People on this site never fail to amaze me. If liking different colored sliders makes you a "squid" or "racer-boy" you guys are very closed minded. Let's all ride around on the same black motorcycles! That would be so fun! RIDICULOUS! ANYWAY, I don't see any harm in offering a couple of colors at a small extra cost. Keep the logos off OR make them very simple - just the logo or just the name, not both. | ||
| Xbullet |
If liking different colored sliders makes you a "squid" or "racer-boy" you guys are very closed minded. Let's all ride around on the same black motorcycles! That would be so fun! RIDICULOUS! agreed. plus... DHM is a business. if there's not a big demand for colors, don't offer them. but that's what you guys are findin' out here, aren't you? i prefer the original stealth style, myself, but if i upgraded to delrin, i'd buy black. my .02. ain't BadWeB great? | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
Johnny Socko.....I love it. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I thought graphite gray the same color as the frame might be subtle as well. Some folks might also like to have sliders to match the plastic bits. If not, delrin is cheapest in black and white anyway. I agree that the black on black on black on black is cool, but isn't for everyone. I got to see some of the coolest tubers at MBIV. NONE were black! | ||
| Skully |
has anyone removed their axle sliders and noticed the corrosion on the axle ? i have soo... i ground slots into the sliders to allow airflow into the hollow axles. condensation, and water from washing your bike gets trapped in there. DHM ??? Hi Cliff, nice bike. The black stripes really set the yellow off. Yes, when I remove my slider assemblies to change tires, I too note that there is some discoloration inside the axle as well as the all thread rod and the portions of the sliders that live inside the axles. Please note that the all thread rod is 18-8 (Type 304) stainless steel, which has excellent corrosion resistance, and the metal portion of our sliders is 6061-T6 aluminum. I’m sure that the axle is manufactured from the 6000 or 7000 series aluminum alloys. Does anyone know anything different? Your suggestion to add features that allow any condensation to drain is a good one. However, there is nothing that clocks the sliders relative to gravity so I have no way of insuring that the drain features are always pointed down. They could become fill features if installed incorrectly allowing even more moisture to enter. There are no corrosion concerns with the all thread rod, so that leaves the axles and the sliders. When aluminum corrodes, it forms a barrier oxide film is very thin but is highly effective in protecting the aluminum from further corrosion. The Aluminum Association’s “Aluminum Design Manual” states, “Alloys of the 1XXX, 3XXX, 5XXX, and 6XXX series generally have very good corrosion resistance in natural environments and can be used without supplemental corrosion protection.” Furthermore, the manual notes that 300 series stainless in contact with aluminum does not need to be painted except when placed in a high chloride environment. Therefore, unless someone is using a corrosive cleaner to wash their bike, there should be no corrosion issues with the materials that we have selected for this purpose or the axle itself. Regarding logos, it sounds like most of you don’t care for that idea. I’ll post a jpg of the solid model with the DHM name on it later this evening to see what you think. And Brian, you are right. Adding my company name or logo should not cost you anything extra. Keith | ||
| Glitch |
Hey Keith, I guess you should have asked what colors people wanted rather than ask an opinion!  Might I suggest you offer up a few colors and see how the demand goes, and have the cost reflect the demand. I think you could do colors with minimal cost knowing which colors are more popular, and only offering those. Say go with the 5 top colors and leave it at that. With regards to a logo on, well, that would be up to you really, and what the cost of putting a logo on would cost. The only way I can think of for logo "printing" would be to use a hot stamp. That way you would be doing them on demand. Hot stamping is how the printing gets put on a lot of small plastics. Take a look at a ball point pen (oh jeez did I just date myself? What other kind of pen is there now a days? ) the words and logo are hot stamped. Also the printing on quite a bit of plastic things are heat stamped. The cost to do so is fairly cheap, once the set up and things like that are over and done with, you know how that goes.  Sorry for the long post, and I'm hoping I'm being helpful. | ||
| Teddagreek |
Black and White? The new slider is really nice.. You should expand your line to other brands.. Ducati, Triumph etc... You could clean up... | ||
| Skully |
Thanks guys! Maybe I asked the question wrong?  | ||
| Cycleaddict |
thanks skully ,i think you should "identify" your product with whatever logo etc. you find suitable. ( the "cooler" the better) you don't want your stuff look'n like everybody elses. | ||
| Skully |
Guys - what do you think about this:  The lettering could be added by screen printing that Jeremy suggested or by the process that Glitch shows above. I don't want to spend time chasing something you guys don't want. We really do appreciate everyone's inputs. Keith | ||
| Nasty73z |
Maybe get rid of the L.L.C. and space the DHM so that it goes the full circumference of the puck. And I think the hot stamping would look a lot cooler than screen print. In the most likely case, I would just leave them as they are now, beautiful. | ||
| Plag |
Just black...no fancy colors...no logos...best advertising is word of mouth. Damn good looking sliders! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I like it. I would replace the LLC with your logo, though. | ||
| Jmhinkle |
No black at all. Anything but black please. Even the graphite grey would be better to match the frame. I just don't want anything black on my bike besides the tires. If you can match the factory colors, I think that would be great. If you could match the Uly orange I would be overly impressed. Logo's I could do without unless they look really cool somehow. Definitely not the plain lettering like above. | ||
| Snakedriver |
Skully, Im coming home from Iraq on leave very-very soon. I was wondering if you folks were taking pre-orders on the front slides? I would like to get them on the bike ASAP. I wouldnt want to pay extra for something that wouldnt help the machine handle better or go faster. If you did put something on the sliders you should ingrave...That way if the bike does go down folks will know who and what save the bike from untold damage! Thanks Leo | ||
| Teddagreek |
No Logo..... Not saying if you wanted to stamp in your name and leave it black.. That way the bike looks clean and some one close at the slider can see your companys name.. | ||
| Al_lighton |
Personally, I'm not keen on company logos on products. Tat used to put "A.S.B." on the products he had made for American Sport Bike, but I don't and won't. Any of the Crossroads products that we bought will have the Crossroads logos removed and nothing added back with the next builds. I don't want my bike to be a rolling billboard for other companies, and I don't want to impose our brand on other peoples bikes. We send American Sport Bike stickers out with our orders, folks can use them if they want or throw them away. Marketing isn't my strong suit. Al |
