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Buelltroll
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My rear shock is leaking n spraying funkyass oil ALL OVER the underside of my swingarm.
WTFF is up with that and how do I fix it?
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Davy_boy
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is it under warranty ?
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Buelltroll
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ya 5 year extended
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Kdan
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shocks aren't covered by the extended warranty. $267 new. Traxxion Dynamics can rebuild it for 1/2 that. How do I know. Tuesday, just bought a new shock. Got 25k out of the first one, but now I'll have a spare.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've always heard not to replaces front n rear shocks independently should do all at once.
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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 04:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never heard that. It doesn't make any sense...
You can adjust front and rear completely independent of each other, what possible difference could it make as long as they are both operating within spec.

Maybe you heard not to replace a single front shock. That would kinda make more sense to me. If you replaced 1 front shock would the uneven wear of the internals cause problems?
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The stock shock has to be modified to be rebuilt, there is no where to recharge it with nitrogen so they have to add a valve to the resevoir.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can think of four alternatives.

1. Buy a new shock $267.

2. Buy a used shock. Lots of low mileage ones on offer. I just sold one like new with 350 miles on it for half price. The most cost effective solution.

3. Have your shock rebuilt. This only makes sense if you are either much heavier, or lighter than the normal 160 lbs. and will want to replace the spring at the same time. Cost is more than buying new shock but worth it if you need a different spring and want to revalve the shock at the same time.

If you do go to a stiffer spring in the shock and re-valve it, you will want to do the same thing in the forks. Now this is starting to become an expensive proposition, making alternative no. 2 even more attractive.

4. If you have bucks to burn, there are high performance aftermarket shocks available from Penske, Wilbers and Ohlins.

These are in the thousand dollar range, and are most suitable for guys who do track days and/or race, or who have set up problems that preclude the use of the stock shock.

In my own case, I weigh over 50 lbs more than the basic 160 lb.s and have a longer than stock swing arm, so I was unable to set the bike up the way I wanted because I ran out of preload.

I decided to treat myself to an Ohlins, with a spring selected for my weight and long swing arm, and which also has adjustable ride height. It seemed like a great indulgence when I ordered it, but now that I have been able to set the suspension properly with it, I have been able to convince myself it was worth it.

By the way, installing the shock is pretty simple. One needs to jack up the rear end of the muffler so the swing arm is fully extended. A long allen wrench is needed to get to the top mounting bolt which may be hard to remove as it is a steel bolt threaded into the aluminum frame.

(Message edited by gentleman_jon on January 27, 2007)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Take some time to make sure it is what you think and nothing else, I had some leaks that looked like one thing and ended up being another.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ill post some crappy phone pics of it later.
I'm pretty sure its the shock.
I had the tech look for the leak at the oil lines under the swingarm last time it was in the shop.
He said he couldn't find any leak and that the spray was probably from the stripped primary drain plug they just repaired.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just thinking.................

Underside of the swing arm doesn't sound like the shock.
The shock would spray oil on top of the swing arm, wouldn't it?

There are two oil lines, and the drain plug under the swing arm. Also the primary chaincase drain plug could be a source.

Experienced mechanics always look at the last thing that they "fixed " to find the source of a new problem.

Sounds like your tech did just that, and suggested the primary drain plug that was recently repaired as the likely culprit.

Any reason to doubt him?

Another possibility, somewhat remote, is a porous casting in the swing arm, or a small crack.

Or it could be a leak in the engine oil system in the front of the engine that gets blown back to the swing arm.

I think there may be some dye you can put in the oil to track this kind of thing down.

Want to track this down before the oil migrates to the tire. Ouch!

(Message edited by gentleman_jon on January 27, 2007)
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Buelltroll
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)




This is what made me think frayed line or loose fitting.
Dealer said neither was the case when she was in for stator replacement.



When I went to ride yesterday I noticed a little goo on the top of the swingarm near the fender so I wiped it all clean and when I got done riding this is what I saw.
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You should be able to see the oil on the shock if indeed that is what is leaking, the seal will be wet and seeping oil as you look at it.
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Woody1911a1
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wipe everything clean , then instead of riding it just bounce up and down on the seat like you were ..... nm
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where does the tranny vent go on an XB?

I'm thinking... you said you just got the stator replaced, which means they had the primary off, which means they had to put in new fluid.

I would be looking at primary leaks, or maybe just an over filled primary and its burping its way to happyness.
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was just thinking the same thing there Reepicheep, as the Vent for the tranny is up top in that same location...( right over top of the Spring itself )
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