| Author | Message | ||
     Vonsliek |
hi & happy new year! anyone know of viable & proven alternatives for '05 xb12r front motor mount isolator? i chew thru the stock ones .. 3 in one year .. i use my bike on track all summer. | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Just a guess, but are you sure that you are using the latest version of the isolator? The current upgraded part number is L10501.02.A8. It is somewhat stronger than the original part that came on my 2004. Here it is on the right.  But since you have been through three this year, you probably know this already.  | ||
| Glitch |
Isn't there a solid one the racers use? If there is, I wouldn't think it would be very street friendly. | ||
| Spiderman |
>>>>Isn't there a solid one the racers use? If there is, I wouldn't think it would be very street friendly. It would depend on the person. People think the solid mounted Evos and older sportys rattled teeth but never bothered me. Heck even some XB riders think the tubers rattle teeth  | ||
| Glitch |
My brother-in-law's S3T rode real smooth I thought. Of course, I only rode it once, and only for a half hour or so. But, that was the bike that made me take a new look at Buell. Less than a year later, I was a committed Bueller, the rest is history... | ||
| Vonsliek |
hey gentleman_jon .. i am using the later version, as it was good .. i put abt 8500 miles on last summer of which were abt 15-20 hrs hard track time. i don't know if the heat from riding so hard kills the rubber or if i have some oter issues, but they die pretty quick for me .. i carry a lot of front end loading .. cld that be something? (ie: i weigh 170 & have rear preloaded a lot & set for a 220#er & front set for 160#er .. preferred the handling like that, plus totally killed a lot of front end lift, under normal hard track riding .. is there a racer's *solid* type isolator? i have no quarms abt vibes .. kind of like them .. on track we run 30psi anyway, so that is some sort of damping .. | ||
| Yohinan |
I would put a post up in the racers section of the forum. IMO something is wrong with your bike as I don't think you should be eating these up this quickly. The only ones that could comment with first hand knowledge are those that are in similar situations to yours in respect to the mileage and conditions your subjecting your bike too in "race" conditions. Is the header you have on your bike stock or aftermarket? Additionally either way is it coated with a heat barrier/insulator to keep heat within the pipe as much as possible for max EGS? Heat kills rubber but I am sure you know this already. What about the rest of your suspension? I see your post and what kind of settings your running but what about the wearable parts? How about recommended inspection/change intervals? Are they being adhered to as recommended by the shop manual? I would not strictly follow these intervals if your bike is used exclusively or mostly for the track. I would bump up those inspection/changing intervals quite a bit if your apt to either one of those types of riding? I think the majority of all that I typed you already know or have an idea about however I think sometimes it helps to hear things again from a different person just to make them click in the head of those experiencing the issues. Additionally for those that don't like to post it may help them out if they are in a similar situation or just would like to get some general knowledge. HTH | ||
| Vonsliek |
yohinan .. thanks for the input .. i have had 3 off's on the bike .. 2 were street - first one trashed right front fork & whacked *headstock* area pretty hard, but was fixed, inspected & declared safe & good. next street crash was w wheelie gone terrible .. most damage to right side engine & sprockets .. last crash was on rough grassy ground surrounding track, at abt 60mph .. lowsiding.. so .. bike HAS been abused & that probably doesnt help anything much .. could the initial front end crash have ruined things just enough to not show anything, not feel like anything, but kill the rubber & THEN i get the knocking & vibes on front braking? i have replaced wheels, tires (use pirelli corsa pro on street) & front brake disc thanks for yr assistance, greatly appreciated.  | ||
| Yohinan |
could the initial front end crash have ruined things just enough to not show anything, not feel like anything, but kill the rubber & THEN i get the knocking & vibes on front braking? Absolutely!!! I think that maybe one or all three of the down's may have contributed to the accelerated wear of your front isolator. Obviously it would be a guess at best as to which if not all of the three contributed in part or whole to the issues your having now. Was the bike repaired by yourself or by a shop and was it covered by the insurance company each time? If covered by the insurance company most of the time since they paid to have the damages fixed they are now obligated to repair anything else that showed up later due to the accident/accidents. This is a bit of a grey area but it may or may not work in getting your issues fixed once it is determined what is causing your front isolator to wear at this accelerated rate. It is very common after an accident to experience slight abnormalities of the bikes intended function even though the bike is thought to have been correctly repaired. The issue arises when these abnormalities within a certain component or components are not recognized by the naked eye as being damaged when in fact the reality is that they really are. No one thinks anything is wrong because they cant "see" it. This post has reminded me of another post in the past that I was supposed to respond to but forgot about. I will remember when I get home from work tonight to look up in one of my books the name of a company that deals with this type of work. They basically have precision machinery that allows them to look at the bike and find parts that are damaged that are causing issues and have not been corrected, due to this inability to spot the troublesome part or parts. I am sure that the company I know of is not your area however if you give them a call they may be able to recommend someone closer to you. Please don't take my post as an end all solution but more as starting point to a means of finding a solution to the issues your bike is exhibiting. HTH (Message edited by yohinan on January 03, 2007) | ||
| Anonymous |
Please, please don't put a solid mount in. I can't speak for wierd experimenters, but I can assure you none of the fast racers use them, and the XBRR doesn't have solid either. A solid mount will tear the bike apart. There is something wrong with your bike if you are destroying the rubber ones. | ||
| Diablobrian |
Has the bike that is destroying isolators been checked out by someone like GMD computrak to be sure that the frame is still square and true within factory spec? If not, that would be a VERY good idea. They can true up a tweaked frame, sometimes even better than it was when it was brand new. Also they can help you get your suspension set up better than most people would have though possible. | ||
| Yohinan |
Well as mentioned I am home now and was going to let you know the name of the company I was referring to however, Diablobrian already beat me to it. It is in fact GMD Computrack. They are www.gmdcomputrack.com They have centers located throughout the country. Look them up and see if they have something in your area. I am confident they will be able to give you a more specific diagnosis as to what is causing your issues. HTH | ||
| Vonsliek |
alas .. no canadian location .. no washinton location .. ack! i guess i will just have to wear the parts & call it idiot tax ... then again, buells xb12's shd come w/ warnings abt the effect of unleashing so much torque irresponsibly .. kinda like kawasaki were doing w/ their zx10r in 2004! my bad tho .. so, i have tires, isolators, front brake discs & suspension redo to add to each year .. ah ha ... thanks again guys. |
