| Author | Message | ||
     Buelltroll |
 thats sooooooooooo gheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey | ||
| Rocketman |
I understand the logic behind modular designs but that's just the biggest pisstake from Buell yet. All I see is a money making exercise. I guess when they pitch it against the KTM, Hypermotard etc etc, we'll be told by Buell that it's the fastest cornering mud plugger known to man, despite the others blowing into the weeds. Rocket | ||
| S1eric |
I would like to see one in person before I said to much. It`s a cool concept. Street moto, I kinda like it. Ducati is making the Hyper Moto. BMW has a cool street moto KTM super moto. Power in the Buell line has been stagnant since 1998. Oh wait we got 1hp more from the XB line. I know torque this torque that. "real world power" Mr Buell. I like the XB line up, Really. I like the Street Moto. Can`t wait to see one. Could I get one with a few more ponies. I keep waiting to see some trickle down XBRR technology. Maybe soon. S1Eric | ||
| Xbmojo |
will have to wait and see what the bike looks like as a whole and for a statement from buellmoco as to the aim of the project. | ||
| Elvis |
It's a shame they weren't able to keep this under wraps. Imagine if, out of nowhere they introduced an interesting variation of a Uly at a 10% lower MSRP in November when we weren't expecting anything. How could anyone have a problem with that? But after several days of speculation and wishful thinking, this seems like a let-down. This illustrates how leaks can be harmful. | ||
| Jscott |
"This illustrates how leaks can be harmful." The only thing more harmful, is releasing this lame rehash. | ||
| Buellshyter |
Although it's not my cup of tea, it's a good move by Buell. It expands the product line with very little upfront development cost. Don't fret - real improvements are a coming. | ||
| Rocketman |
Street moto, I kinda like it. Ducati is making the Hyper Moto. BMW has a cool street moto KTM super moto. In order for the Buell to be in the same league as the others it must in my opinion be able to take itself seriously. At best this looks no more than a fashion statement and I seriously doubt ahead of any testing that this Buell will cut the mustard with the real deal. KTM are perhaps at the forefront of this genre. Ducati as well as BMW have made a huge effort to make a motorcycle worthy of this genre. Buell have done nothing of the sort. Once again Buell have failed to prick my interest. No suprise there then - which is a shame. No wonder Buell wanted to keep it a secret. I bet now they wish they had succeeded  Rocket | ||
| Elvis |
The only thing more harmful, is releasing this lame rehash. Yeah, I see what you mean. Now when I go to my dealer, I have a choice between a Uly . . . or this for $1200 less. That really sucks. . . . . . no wait a minute . . . I don't have a clue what you mean. How does this hurt us again? | ||
| Xbmojo |
next will be an XBSR whats that??? its an XBS with an r rear end. Then the XBRS whats that??? and XBR with an S rear end. lol i could get a job at buell with these innovations and concepts. | ||
| Buellfighter |
Number  plates? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Number plates? Yeah, I wonder how many XB12STT's will be running around donning the #69?  Get an original clue!  | ||
| Jiffy |
It's not the end of the world but I don't think anyone is going to say "WOW look at that new smaller Uly." It is an underwhelming release. I just want Buell to release a "new" bike. All new. I would like to see a street version of the XBRR but really that is still just a variation on the XB. An XBRR street version would at least be real fast which is what all the magazines and ricky racers want to see. | ||
| Eboos |
So now you can add number plates to the "bold new colors and graphics" for 07.  | ||
| Xring |
I'm afraid Buell just moved one step further away from what would it would take to get me to trade in my XB9S. Isn't that what new models are all about? Bill | ||
| Rocketman |
or this for $1200 less. That really sucks. . . I often see this dollar thing mentioned on the BadWeB. Frankly I think if you're in the market to buy a £5000 or more motorcycle, saving around £600 isn't really going to sway my mind to the cheaper bike. I go the other way and think jeez that £600 buys me a better deal. I mean, are new Buell buyers hard up for cash? I'd say a pretty large majority of Buell owners have made their way and saving a few dollars more is neither here or there when it comes down to choosing the model they want. Just a thought. Rocket | ||
| Kdan |
This from a man with a 9 year old Buell and a 12 year old Ducati. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I've got a great idea for next year's model. Put a 21" front spoke wheel on the Uly and call it the XBMX. Have dirt rider test one against the KTMs that actually have purpose built frames and engines. I mean think about it, the sportster engine is perfect for cruisers, sportbikes, and adventure bikes, why not competitive motocrossers? | ||
| Jandj_davis |
For those of you that are ready for a new model from Buell, I say again, when was the last time we saw a new model from Honda? I think the RC51 was the last "really new" model (except for cruisers and scooters), right? The CBR series has made imperceptible changes since 2001, and the CB series bikes (599, 919) have always been available in Europe under the Hornet name. Yamaha has only released 1 new model in the last 5 years (the MT-01) and it is not available in the US. The R1/R6/FZ1/FZ6 get niggly little updates every year, but nothing "all new." Suzuki is/has released some slightly tweaked models in the not-so-far distant past, but the SV650/SV1000 were 2003 models, which is the same year as the XB intro. The new Bandit 1250 and the V-Strom are something I would consider "new" but they are based off of older models so, like the XB series, they cannot really be "all new." Kawasaki has released 1 or 2 new models (650 Ninja & ZX14), but the 650 is really the only "all new" model. Triumph has given us the Daytona 675, but all others share things with their ancestors. Ducati gives us a "new" monster every year, but the only new models they really have put out are the Multistrada and the "likely-to-be-released" Hypermotard. BMW has made so many lateral twin variations that they are about to kill the engine, though their F800's are kinda neat. KTM has really stepped out of their box with their recent models, but they are all kinda the same (same motor, same color, same frame, etc.) Aprilia, Moto Guzzi, Harley, MV-Agusta, they all are using models that have been around for some time now. So, give Buell a break. Having a model around for ... OH MY GOSH, 5 YEARS!!! ... is really not all that uncommon. If someone can point me toward models that I missed, or companies that are constantly spewing out new models, let me know. If you think the new R1 is actually "all new" I would love to hear your argument. Until then, bask in the glory that is the ONLY American Sport Bike to make it (Fischer, MotoCysz, gimme a break) for real. (Message edited by jandj_davis on November 14, 2006) | ||
| Daves |
and if HD names one more bike with it beginning with "Street" I am going to scream! Street Rod Street Bob Street Glide no shit, they are for the street. | ||
| Spatten1 |
"The CBR series has made imperceptible changes since 2001" "The R1/R6/FZ1/FZ6 get niggly little updates every year, but nothing "all new."" If the redesigned frames and engines every two years are "imperceptable changes", you better ask the privateer racers and track day riders why they are so stupid in falling for the hype. It is ridiculous to bash companies that pour money into engine and chassis updates and redesigns in the defense of a company that is using 1950's parts in their current engines. This seems to be the logic that sank the HD superbike. Every year it got "refined", and every year everybody else got faster with those "imperceptable changes" | ||
| Matty |
Come to think of it, I would like to hear this someday: "Street Bob? No, Race Rod. Race Bob? Almost. That's a Race rod, this is a Race Glide. Oh... ..... So that's a FLUTCHRX? yup. Boy, it's nice! What do you ride? Oh, I only got a Street Race, but I'm gonna upgrade to a Race Street someday."  | ||
| Daves |
 Especially fun if your name is Bob or Rod. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
I dont wanna know anything about Rod's Rod! Street or not.  | ||
| Daves |
Exactly especially if it has anything to do with Bob | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
It is ridiculous to bash companies that pour money into engine and chassis updates and redesigns in the defense of a company that is using 1950's parts in their current engines. -Spatten1 What parts are these you speak of? What type of ancient parts does Buell use that no import motorcycle company uses? Also Buell could probably do alot more in the way of updates and redesigns if it had a parent company that actually cared about it's success. It often seems like HD is trying hard to kill Buell on the dealer level. | ||
| Perry |
Frankly I don't get a couple things. 1) Some people here presume that everyone at Buell marketing are idiots. Buell VP of Marketing: 'Damn, they blabbed again. We told them not to tell when we sent out the info, but just like the 183 times before, they blabbed, and wow it really hurt our company. What a shock! I hope they do better next time!" NOT. These are sharp professionals, they know exactly what to expect and handle things accordingly - EVERY company does this in EVERY industry. 2) The bike - ??!! "Customizable flyscreen" - what, I can write grafitti on it with a permanent marker? And I can't with the other bikes? I can buy a new flyscreen and do it again? Yipee - forget counter balanced and more power - I've got my magic marker!! 3) Number plates? Just in case I want to pretend I've in a race as I ride around town? Or maybe some hooters girls will think so and pick up on me? Yippee, what a breakthrough! Erik Buell went all the way to Italy, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt. | ||
| Spatten1 |
"What type of ancient parts does Buell use that no import motorcycle company uses?" 1) the primary chain that broke on my bike 2) the drive gear bearing that broke on my bike No other manufacturers that I'm aware of still use those parts. Not on any performance bikes anyway. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I should clarify the above post. (1) Many years ago the industry went to direct gear drive primarys. (2) I don't know if any other company ever used an extra gear on the mainshaft for the power output. Every tranny I've seen from outside of HD uses a sprocket or belt or shaft drive right off of the counter shaft, thus eliminating an extra set of bearings. It also makes for more direct power transfer. | ||
| Kowpow225 |
All I really want from Buell right now is a redesigned powerplant. Save the color swaps, 'new models', improved belt guard designs, and give me a fired up, pissed off, nuclear bomb kind of engine. I'll be ready to trade in when that happens. |
