| Author | Message | ||
     Woolf |
Obviously there is an issue with people not posting topics in the correct section of the forum, hence the flashing marque at the top of the page. If no technical information is to be shared in this section of the forum, then what is this section for? What constitutes something as a knowledge vault post? I am only asking because I don't have the time to look up the rules, and don't want to piss of the administrators by posting the wrong info in the wrong section. The big reason I, and can only assume it is other people's reason as well, for posting technical information on this board is because it is the only board that is XB specific. When I ask a question or look for topics, I don't want to have to sift through tuber information etc. Is it possible to set up a XB specific technical section, or something along those lines? Just food for thought. P.S. Hope this was the right forum. | ||
| Jjk |
Thank goodness I'm not the only one with that question! I find it to be an enormous pain to have to look through each 'volume' of the KV. I like to read of all the days XB topics in one place. Sometimes I learn things I hadn't even thought about before. | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
whew................ Great to find out I'm not the only one too.  I enjoying sharing what little I may have learned about my bike, but I can't answer questions if I don't know if they have been asked. Get what I mean? | ||
| Mmelvis |
1) Upper Right hand corner of the screen select Search 2) On the Search screen select Search by date. This will put a check mark in the box 3) Verify recent posts is selected, it will have a dot in the box 4) In the Messages posted within the last section place a 1 in the box, verify days is selected in the drop down box to the right 5) In the search options section Search topic: select Knowledge Vault (tech,parts,apparel, & accessories topics) 6) Select the Perform Search Button You will now have a list of all the new items posted in the last day. | ||
| Macbuell |
I've never liked the knowledge vault rule from the beginning. You used to be able to come to this board and learn useful information about the XB's that you were not specifically searching for before this rule. That's not the case any more. I think you should be able to posting anything and everything related to XB's here, technical or otherwise. | ||
| Glitch |
It tends to keep things better organized. If we posted what we should in the KV, then there wouldn't be near as many threads asking the same thing over and over. I think you should be able to posting anything and everything related to XB's here, technical or otherwise. Can't please everyone. | ||
| Drift |
Ahem! No body is saying that you cannot ask questions here. Ask away. Just check through the XB Knowledge vault if it is a technical question first. You may very well find your answer there. I personally have enjoyed having the knowledge vault to refer to. It is always there. A post can disappear into never never land and I find myself trying to use the search funtion to no avail (I'm not good with that too). I think the idea here is to minimize the same old questions day after day and try to create a refreshing environment. Sure it is ok to qualify something or ask that question that you just cannot find the answer to. Just go to the vault first. I think that a good point to make here is that the Knowledge vault is organized and designed to grow our collective knowledge in a format that is usable without the Admins having to constantly move info around. Correct me if I am wrong here Admin... | ||
| Woolf |
I don't see any problem with the knowledge vault, I think it is a good idea. What I am really curious about is if this is not a technical bard then what is it? Just my opinion, but I think the knowledge vault would be more effective if it had boards that were specific to models, just like we have model specific general boards. Nothing against badweather, its creator, or its administrators; but it seems less organized and just harder to navigate then any of the other forums I visit i.e. yfzcentral.com, ls1.com, corral.net, etc (non Buell). | ||
| Eexb |
"I think the knowledge vault would be more effective if it had boards that were specific to models" AMEN to that !!! | ||
| Pwnzor |
I consider myself very computer-savvy, but I can't find jack in the KV without sifting through dinosaur bones (sorry tubers). When I ask a question on the XBoard I usually get some form of an answer within minutes while I read other threads. I usually enter the KV after I don't get the answer I need on the XBoard. I will in the future, make a conscious effort to check the KV first but in the past when I posted there I got no response. I see others with the same problem, posting links on the XBoard to the KV to bump the thread so people will notice it. | ||
| Phantom5oh |
"I think the knowledge vault would be more effective if it had boards that were specific to models" My sentiments exactly! | ||
| Mmelvis |
Search Tip Number 2 1) At the top of the screen select Google BadWeb 2) Type in your question or words in the all words box ( example words: change belt xb ) 3) Press Enter on the computer keyboard If you want to exclude models add the following ( example model: S1 ) S1 in the without the words box to exclude the S1 model of buells. Add more words as needed to exclude more models | ||
| Blake |
Posting tech content to the KV will help reduce the large number of active threads on the XBoard, thus preventing them from disappearing into the archives so quickly. There is no issue of not being able to see new posts if you take advantage of the "New Messages..." option in the search utility. It will list ALL new messages for the entire board since your last "New Messages..." search. If you are not interested in other sections of the board, then select the topics that are your favorites via the options in your profile and designate that searches for new messages only return hits from your designated favorite topics. Simple. Virtually all KV issues these days are XB related. It would be great if we could all designate the applicable model and year of motorcycle in new KV threads though. For some reason, this fairly benign and simple request really burns some folks. People sure are funny. All the help anyone is willing to give to help revitalize the KV will be most appreciated.  "New Messages..." search, there is no better way to browse the BadWeB. Try it for a week and let me know if you agree. | ||
| Blake |
Henrik,  | ||
| Buellshyter |
If you want to exclude models add the following ( example model: S1 ) S1 in the without the words box to exclude the S1 model of buells. Add more words as needed to exclude more models Shoot, why not return to the days of DOS and horse drawn carriages. | ||
| Pwnzor |
"Shoot, why not return to the days of DOS and horse drawn carriages." WTF did DOS ever do to you? Is there something wrong with DOS? The horses you can keep but I won't have anyone badmouthing DOS around here! 3.3 Rulez!!!  (Message edited by pwnzor on July 20, 2006) | ||
| M1combat |
I've tried the new messages style of looking through the board... I like it about as much as the "meander through the board looking for places that have the neat little "new" tag" method. The benefit is that I invariably miss stuff with the meander method. I like the new message search method. That doesn't fix the XB Vs. KV issue. The KV is vast. There is a LOT of good information there. A lot of it is applicable to both XB's and tube frames. A lot of it isn't. Due to the fact that the KV is both vast and old, it tends to be difficult to get good information for an XB without having to sift through a ton of information about tube framed bikes. The reasons for this IMO are these... It's pretty rare that someone posts the machine ID in the thread topic. Sometimes people don't even post the machine ID in the body of the thread and people end up just asking. This makes the idea of excluding models useless. You still get tons of information about the wrong model and sometimes you don't realize it's the wrong model until you've wasted valuable time reading seven posts before someone says "Hey, what kind of bike are we talking about here?" Thread spread... I've run across many KV threads that started about a certain subject (and went a while on that subject) but then changed subjects. You do a search for "X", find a topic about "Y" but don't realize that 27 posts down the page they're talking about "X". The vast majority of users here don't read the KV until they need something. They have "K", but they only disperse their "K" when they see a subject in the XBoard asking for "K". They don't just go rooting around the KV looking for threads that are asking for "K". I understand that the "new deal" (it IS a new deal for the XBers apparently) is supposed to allay this specific concern, but unless you make the board only usable by the new message search function, the XBers are going to continue to use the XBoard. When you DO make the board only usable by the search function, many people IMO will leave. It's a quandry. It can be solved by a MASSIVE effort to sort the KV by model specific information and by model un-specific information. That's the only solution I see. No... It's not one that I want to undertake... I made a suggestion some time back in a thread just such as this one that solved all of the issues with the XB Vs. KV topic... I don't remember what the suggestion was, but it had to do with putting "phantom" links to KV topics in the XBoard or something like that. So they could be replied to from the XBoard, but they only actually existed in the KV. Something like a "symbolic link" in the Linux world. They're much smarter and better than "shortcuts" in the Windows world. Anyway... It was a good suggestion and as I recall didn't really make a lot of extra work for the custodians. Anyway... Back to your regularly scheduled programming. | ||
| Sgthigg |
tried this in the knowledge vault for the past couple days...I bet I get a response now. Anyone know of a aftermarket oil cooler for an xb? Anyone have a pic of theyre set up and where they bought it form? I saw the on on the xbrr and it looks like a pretty good idea, especially if you live somewhere extremely hot. Thanks | ||
| Blake |
No need to spend too much time sifting through the KV for a pre-existing answer to a question. We're just asking that the question be posted there in a new thread, instead of on the XBoard, in a new thread. | ||
| Blake |
Someone posed the question to the effect "what would we post the the XBoard if all the tech threads are posted to the KV"? Reading through the list of today's active threads, I'd say at least half of them are non-technical, non-KV applicable. You can probably figure out which ones. Sgt, Thanks for posting to the KV! In the case of a "does anyone know of..." question like you have posed, a non-response often indicates that "no, nobody knows of ..." Folks don't usually bother to reply in the negative to such inquiries. You do now have a reply though. Thanks for posting to the KV! I REALLY appreciate it. | ||
| Brewtus |
Hey Blake, Think you can reply to mine too so I don't feel left out? http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/214956.html?1153420067  | ||
| Tpoppa |
The knowledge vault is just NOT user friendly. Some place in the KV don't get enough traffic to be useful. Search helps as long as you know the exact phrase to search. | ||
| Teddagreek |
Love the site but compared to other forums the site needs to be reorganized... | ||
| Jjk |
I guess I just don't understand the big deal with posting things on the XBoard in lieu of the KV. I know how to do searches, use the function regularly, like it tremendously, etc. But, I don't think I'm in the minority when I say that the XBoard is a much easier deal to use and allows me to just quickly glance at the day's topics and decide what I want to look at or not, sometimes KV related, sometimes just usual BS stuff. Again, maybe I'm not tech-savvy enough to understand the problem. If it's XB related, why shouldn't we post it in the XBoard? | ||
| Mdm |
KV sucks, I dont know the solution. But just cause the admins say its great, its not. off my box MDM | ||
| Brewtus |
OK guys and gals, I posted in the knowledge vault, but still have not had a response. ( Don't know if I posted in the right place either.) That should tell you something. If I would have posted here, I think I would have had a few responses by now. ( Please don't banned me from BWB!! I love this place!!) | ||
| Tpoppa |
KV sucks, I dont know the solution. But just cause the admins say its great, its not. Blunt, but true. I guess I just don't understand the big deal with posting things on the XBoard in lieu of the KV Me neither. I have been on a lot of forums...none have had a knowledge vault or any such KV guidelines. A forum should be useful to it's users...Sorry Admins, but the KV is just not useful. | ||
| Ronlv |
kv sucks, always has, always will persnally i like to just check one spot, on this board its xboard, on buelletinboard its xb forum, on sporttwin its xb9-xb12 i almost never look at any other areas of any of these forums(except maybe the classifieds) but who cares what i think | ||
| Brewtus |
Blake, just a suggestion, but could we rename the XBoard to the "XB Knowledge Vault?" That's usually what I look for here. Really, I am NOT trying to piss you off!! | ||
| Woolf |
Brewtus has the easiest solution |
