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The_new_guy
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hello Everyone,
I just got Mich. Pilot Powers for my 12R. Boy does my bike handle differently! They do take some getting used to. The bike felt a little loose when leaning in the corners compare to the stock tires. It turns alot easier though. I put a few hundred miles on this weekend though and now I think they feel great. The question I have is which way are the arrows on the tires suppose to point? To the bike I hope. The back one points to the front and the front points to the back. I always thought that they were suppose to point in the direction of rotation but the tread looks correct. This is the first bike I've owned in a while so I'm not sure.

Also, I had the clutch adjusted and I can now wheelie much better. Could the tires have an affect on this?

Thanks guys
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your right.

The front is in wrong.

When the arrow is at the top, it should point to the front of the bicycle.

Not the worst thing in the whole wide world, but I would have them installed properly.

Excellent tire choice, by the way.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The arrows should both point in the direction of rotation
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Fran_dog
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The arrows should point in the direction of rotation.

It's possible that the new pilot powers could effect your wheelie ability. Were your old tires worn out? Your new tires have more traction than your old worn out tires, if that's the case.

EDIT: Man, I type slow...

(Message edited by Fran_Dog on July 17, 2006)
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The_new_guy
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Guys. I love my dealer. Is it going to be bad running it this way. Does it affect handling. My dealer is close to home but I work out of town all week so service is tough.

Thanks,

Gregg
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Fran_dog
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would have the tire switch around. The tire was designed to be run in one direction by some folks that know much more about tires than I do. In the case of the front tire and its tread, one of its main purposes, is to grab the road surface in turns. It is not driven by the motorcycle; it is driven by the road, and I would venture to say that the engineers took this into account in the design of the tire and or its tread pattern.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

fortunately, you haven't put many miles on the tires, and the new 0 degree radials
don't take a directional "set" as easily as radials of past generations, or worse
yet, bias ply tires.

You should get it turned the proper direction by whoever installed your tires. They
should not charge you for the service since they did it incorrectly the first time.

Don't feel bad, the Pirelli guys at the race track that do the XBRR tires and do
the Buells at ASRA races still managed to put my rear tire for my street bike on the
wrong direction, and they do this many many times on a race weekend.: )
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Kootenay
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gaah, get the tire turned around--and whoever mounted it should do it at no charge, including rebalancing, and reimburse you for your inconvenience. Tire direction is really basic stuff--anyone who mounts tires should know that the arrow must point in the direction of rotation! Motorcycle tires have directional tread patterns, which will not perform properly if run backwards.

There is the possibility, of course, that the tire mounter did not know what side the rotor runs on, and may have thought he was mounting them correctly (this is in the case you took the wheels to the shop already off the bike). In this case, the fault lies partly (just a little bit) with you, for failing to ensure they were aware of the direction of rotation (unless this was a Buell dealer you went to!).
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Cmm213
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the worst think that could go wrong before you correct it is that you hit a puddle with the front tire. The water would not channel out of the grooves like its ment to do when rotating properly. my 2 cents
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Brineusaf
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kootenay - I took mine to get them changed off the bike and the worker used his common sense and looked at how the tire that was already on there was mounted, and mounted the new rubber the same. I don't think it was the_new_guys fault, it is on the worker for not having any awareness.
If he wasn't sure of mounting he should have A - asked owner , or B - looked at markings on original tire

I say take them back, be polite, state the problem and you shouldn't have a problem getting them turned for free. I doubt they even make you wait long. Best of luck.
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The_new_guy
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 06:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks a lot. I plan on getting it swiched asap. I don't want to beat a dead horse but EVERY time I go to my dealer there is a hassle. I guess I should learn to to everything on my bike. They also scratched my front caliper when re installed my front wheel.

Thanks

Gregg
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Brineusaf
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Report it to the tech, if he gives you a hard time bring it to the attention of the manager, maybe he can do something about it.

Or bring in a ___ and everyone and _______ everything in the store, thats what I feel like doing everytime someone gives me a hard time at a dealership.
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Snowhownd
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Suzuki dealer did that on my old bike - I just brought them the rims still having the old tires on them (to use as a guide). I picked them up and in haste to get home and get them on the bike to go for a ride didn't think to check direction of the tires until I took them out of the back of the truck - SOB!!!! I took them back the next day and they fixed it for free. They didn't even offer an apology - just a "you're all set." Never went there again.
I should've used Brine's idea - they can't give me that afternoon of missed riding back now can they?!??!
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

power stick great! Did 2 days at Barber and still have some tire left for the street.


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Pupu
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i had some powers put on this morning, i checked direction before i left, all is good. i went there cuz i only here good things. cost be about 295 out the door. more than i wanted but i was in and out in 30 min so at least i will be riding tomorrow.
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The_new_guy
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good for you Pupu, I paid $320.00 but technically I'm getting the front mounted and balanced twice! The tires are great though.

Gregg
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