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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have about 1500 miles on the DID o-ring chain that came with the bike. I guess it is the one that was supplied by Hals.

It seems to have stretched quite a bit. It wasn't lubricated when I got the bike with 350 miles on it. I am using PJ-1 Chain Lube now.

Is there any make and model of 520 chain that is simply the strongest, longest lasting, least stretching -- in other words palpably the best?

Or is that about the life of a lightweight chain on the street?

Thanks.
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Jon_s
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DID's 520ERV3 has the highest tensile strength of all 520 chains. I've installed them on a number of much more powerful bikes with no issues. If you really want to prolong the life of any chain, consider a Scottoiler.
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Ronlv
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i use a rk x-ring chain

chain info i found
http://www.quality-cycle.com/truth_about_motorcycle_chains.htm
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you sure you want to use a Scott oiler on an X-O-Ring chain?
Shouldn't an X-O need less oiling than a conventional chain?
Seems to me a Scott would over do it.
IIRC a light chain wax is all one should need, every once in a while.
Jon, your chain was probably stretched because of the stunter sprocket the guy had on there.
A DID chain would usually last me...you know, I don't remember.
Ann just said I would buy a new chain and sprocket set every Spring. Not sure if I needed it or not, but you know how I ride.
With chains and sprockets, I'm the same way I am with tires. I treat them as a set, if a sprocket gets worn, I buy a chain and set of sprockets, if a chain gets bad I buy a set of sprockets too.
I may have been over doing it, probably because of my back ground with older bikes and chains, before they got as good as they are now.
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch,
You are not over doing "it", with "set" replacement of chain and sprockets. When I worked at the dealer that's the only way we would sell a drive line job.

Also, chains do not stretch, the pins and plates wear from the partial rotation and constant hammering they are subjected to.

A good o'ring chain is internally lubricated and does not require any lubrication. The external lube that you apply is for the roller contact with the teeth on the sprockets.
For that lube I have been using http://www.maximausa.com/products/chainlubes/chainwax.asp on my dirt bikes for years.

One of the reasons I bought the Buell is the belt drive, not to mention air cooling (the way god intended motorcycles to be.)

Cheers, Tp
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A Scott would tend to over-lube for all but the most extreme of abusive. It is
quite common for people to over, or under lube a modern o-ring chain, just like the
bicycles we used to ride as kids. Some never oil them, others have an oily stripe
down the right side of every pair of pants.

Unless you are really hard on your chain there is no reason it shouln't last you
several years. 350 miles shouldn't have done any damage, unless the previous owner
was trying to use the bike as a stunter, or pressure washed the chain (BIG no-no)
because o-ring chains come from the factory with more than enough lube for at
least a thousand miles of normal abuse before needing more lube. Mostly to flush out the dirt and
replace the lube lost with the grit. Pin wear is your enemy! Keep it reasonable and sane and modern
0/x-ring chains will last up to 15k miles,assuming you keep it clean and lubed.

Always change sprockets and chains as a set. The only real exeption is racing where you swap
the final drive ratios more often. Then you need watch the wear on the individual parts since
there is no real "set" (unless you spend the majority of your time at a single track, or gear ratio).

The pj-1 lube is good stuff, I also like the spectro brand chain wax.

(Message edited by diablobrian on July 09, 2006)
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