| Author | Message | ||
     Xb9robb |
Hello everyone! New to this section, but not to the badweb. I posted this on the local club board, but no answer, also now in the KV. It may sound like a stupid question, but here goes. My '05 xb9r and I were in an accident at the end of last season. I was showing off and ended up riding a wheelie up to about the 2 o'clock position before I fell. My bike went down on the right side and slid a bit, maybe 20 ft. Anyway, when I am pushing the bike around my garage and driveway to move it, the belt walks off of the idler pulley when I push the bike backward. Is this normal? Are these bikes not meant to be pushed around in reverse? Like I said, sounds dumb, but I gotta know before I take it for a spin. Plus, it's starting to chew up the belt when it walks off. Any help I could get on this one would be appreciated. If you need more info from me, just say so. Or if I'm being a moron, also, just say so. Thanks! -Robb | ||
| Diablobrian |
sounds like something is out of alignment on your belt drive. I'd examine it really closely, but I suspect bent idler brackets. | ||
| No_rice |
there is no reason i know of that the belt should be coming off ever. its making me think something got bent and the pulleys are out of allignment. just an idea. did the pulley arm get bent in alittle maybe? | ||
| No_rice |
hmm, while i was typing. smart minds think alike! | ||
| Xb9robb |
The rear brake lever made significant contact with the idler pulley bracket. I replaced it with a brand new piece. It did this before with the old pulley, but that was six months ago when it happened, and I can't remember if it did it in F, R, or both. It will, however, straighten itself back out once you go forward again. My cousin seems to think this is completely normal, but my cousin is not the sharpest knife in the drawer either. I talked to another rider who rides a Honda, and he suggested that the wheel may need to be aligned properly, or that the rear wheel sprocket was bent in the accident. Thanks! | ||
| No_rice |
NOT NORMAL. that much i will tell you for sure. something is bent. exactly what i cant say for sure without looking at it, but it has to be. unless... if you replaced the idler bracket and stuff, is the bearing in the pulley shot. would allow it to shift around and plus get slack in the belt so it might be able to do that. just a guess... only other thing i can think of besides bent parts. if the rear sprocket was bent it would walk off the rear sprocket most likely instead of the idler. i would definatly be getting it figured out somehow. | ||
| Diablobrian |
It is not normal, and I do not advise riding it until the problem is found and corrected. Seriously. | ||
| Diablobrian |
JINX | ||
| No_rice |
THATS TO FUNNY, LOL | ||
| Xb9robb |
The only big question in my head is, why only in reverse? I would think that even if something was bent, it would do it both directions. I could almost swear it did with the old one. I don't know. Yeah, I won't be riding it anytime soon if I don't get this one figured out. I almost wish I could just ride it slowly up and down my street, but it is in too many pieces, and it's too damn cold anywho! Maybe that way I could see some wobbling, etc. I wish I had a center stand or cycle jack, but $ is tight. | ||
| Curtyd |
"My cousin seems to think this is completely normal, but my cousin is not the sharpest knife in the drawer either."Proof is in the pudding. NO it is not normal for the belt to walk off the pulley and DON"T DRIVE IT, until it is fixed. Belt comes off, jams and locks the wheel and now you're sliding again. Happened with me a long time ago when a bungie cord came unhitched from the passenger area. Could be you have to take it to a shop to check wheel alignment and drive line alignment, sorry. | ||
| Xb9robb |
Yeah, I'm prepping myself for the long trip to the dealer to find out it's going to cost me one of my nuts to make it right again. And I thought I was gettin' off easy! | ||
| Bloose |
Totally not normal! It only happens in reverse because when going forward it is forcing it toward the rim. The sprocket has a shoulder on the rim side so the belt doesn't come off. You need to get this fixed. The front and rear sprocket and or idler are not aligned correctly. If you look close you should be able to see the problem. B-loose | ||
| Mr_cuell |
Now that the problem has been addressed, how did the wheelie go bad? What happened? | ||
| Kdan |
Now that the problem has been addressed, how did the wheelie go bad? What happened? And more importantly will you be able to do it again, with only one nut? | ||
| Diablobrian |
He'll be more aerodynamic. Ask the french team that protested Lance Armstrong.  | ||
| Xb9robb |
I was following a friend home one night and had only had my bike a month and had 640 miles on it. So now that it was broken in, we can mess around, right? So I got endos and stoppies down pretty well on this bike, come down his street, he lights up a wheelie on his GSXR and I think ah hell, when in Rome. So I revert back like I'm riding my Ninja and kick down a gear, pull in the clutch and gave the throttle hell. Let that bitch out and POP! Last thing I remember is thinking, "just let go." So I did! Never covered the rear brake at all, just plain doing dumb sh**! Will I be able to do it again? Sure! Only this time I hope to bring the front end down while I'm still on the bike! As far as the dealer thing is concerned, I know the owner of the local H-D store, but don't care much for their service. I think I can get them to look at it under warranty, and go from there. Heck, I just sanded the scrapes off of my rear bodywork to save $140! If anyone else has any comments or has had this happen, I'd still like to hear about it! Thanks guys! | ||
| Curtyd |
"I think I can get them to look at it under warranty, and go from there. Heck, I just sanded the scrapes off of my rear bodywork to save $140!" Me thinks you have been spending too much time with your cousin. They will know that the bike has been down. Bring your checkbook and expect to pay for the damage YOU did by wrecking a brand new bike. I'd be very surprised if they cover it, if they do that they are the best damn HD or moto dealer in the world, believe me. (Message edited by CurtyD on March 26, 2006) | ||
| Xb9robb |
I'm not expecting warranty coverage here, jeez, how dumb do I seem? What I'm saying is, I could bring the bike in under the complaint that the belt works its way off of the sprocket. They can cover inspection under warranty, and no one has to be the wiser. It's not like I'm asking them to get me a black market kidney or something. They are all fully aware of my exploits and furthermore, the amount of damage to the bike is almost non-existent. If I replaced the pipes, you'd never know this bike had been down. Also, like I said, friends of the family, so even if they were hesitant to do it under warranty, they might still have a look at it for nothing. As far as my cousin though, yeah, I probably need to spend less time with him. So far I've developed a plan that usually works, do the opposite of whatever he says! Later! | ||
| Xb9robb |
See if this sounds plausible. I got a jack and put the bike up to spin the wheel. Nothing obvious popped out at me. then I started thinking, the rear sprocket has a lip on the left side. When the wheel is going forward it is trying to push to the left, but can't because of the lip. When it is going in reverse, no lip and it is walking toward the right side. that being said, do you guys think I've narrowed it enough to justify getting a new rear sprocket? I mean, if the sprocket is bent just enough in one spot, say, the point where the sprocket made contact with the pavement, would that one spot give the belt just enough leeway to walk? I didn't mention this before, but the sprocket did make contact, but I think the belt saw most of the action and had enough give to bend but not scrape. I found out that the Pro-Series diamond highlighted sprocket is less expensive than a factory replacement, go figure. Any input would be appreciated, I just don't think the dealer would let me return it after I install it. Thoughts? Thanks! | ||
| Isham |
Since you said I could say it and no one else has i'd like to be the first. You're a moron. Now get that bike fixed and stop messing around! (Message edited by isham on March 27, 2006) | ||
| Diablobrian |
You should be able to check the rear sprocket to see how "true" it is. On the bike with a rear stand run-out can be checked by spinning the rear wheel and watching the edge of the sprocket for wobble. If it passes that test, check the sprocket with a dial indicator attached to the frame while spinning the rear wheel. It does not take much misalignment to make a belt walk. Ever own a large belt sander? or have to adjust a conveyor belt? It can be surprising how little of an adjustment can cause things to get way out of line. | ||
| Xb9robb |
Messing around!!! For cryin' out loud! J/K. Yeah, I think it is probably the sprocket. Hopefully I can get one and put it on and everything will be groovy (pun?) and I can ride that instead of Ol' Ninjie. I'll update when I have more info. Thanks for the help so far! Oh, almost forgot, anyone know the Torx size for the sprocket bolts? Thanks! | ||
| Diablobrian |
t-40 if memory serves. |
